Teddy broke industrial monopolies up and Ike warned against the Military industrial complex. Both would be shocked today.

and general all-around douchery.

I look forward to the day when the "sainthood" thing is no longer automatically draped all over him.

Probably will take longer than my lifetime. But I've always hoped that eventually the wool would fall from America's eyes about just how damaging this man was to this country, its culture, and its future.

I'm sure the heart of today's republican party HATES Lincoln.

He left the GOP and started the Bull Moose Party. I find it laughable that he's included in that painting in light of that.

Early in that year, Truman's prospects were looking really bad and there was some effort among Democrats to get Eisenhower to challenge him for the nomination. Then Truman's popularity improved and those efforts fizzled.

But the point is that Eisenhower was largely non-political at that point and definitely not a Republican. Even in 1952, he was recruited by the Republican leadership mainly because they were looking for a non-partisan figure who would not be identified with the extreme right and McCarthyism. (Though they did have to cater to the right to the extent of saddling Ike with Nixon as his running-mate.)

Teddy left and formed the Bull Moose Party taking what was left of progressives in the Republican party with him.

n/t

Eewww!

--imm

Surely those bright lights deserve a place at the table.

I notice they left out Hoover too...

Just like the GOP to cherry pick history.

But I bet one thing is true...I bet Little Georgy Wuved Ronny. Teddy, Ike and Abe would all be working, while the other shitstains would be cheating like hell at poker.

I have no comment about Ford.

Fyi, somebody who forms a third party and runs for president against your party's nominee is no longer part of your party.

Well except for Eisnhower. And he was chosen to stay behind for his prowlness.

He's going to shank them all in the throat.

It was Teddy's Idea.

i think fdr should occupy the lincoln position. he's the archtypal dem as lincoln is the archetypal (though not representative) republican.

The Democratic party claims a direct lineage to Jefferson, I believe based on the argument that when the Democratic-Republican party split, the federalists generally went with the other side. That's why a some local clubs have "Jefferson-Jackson" dinners.

Whether that is a legitimate claim or not is another issue, but based on that and the hairstyle, I'm betting the image is Jefferson.

on edit: well, maybe not, looking at the chin again. Probably is Jackson.

and when?

We're still paying for his treason.

And if any of them should be booted from there, it's Jackson, the hateful, racist, Indian-murdering son of a bitch. He'll never get the Cherokee blood and tears off of his hands, the only president to openly and blatantly defy a specific Supreme Court ruling/order.

He was to the left of many so-called 'democrats' in office today. TR wouldn't fit into today's gooper mold either, for that matter. Same with Nixon.

I mean, they came out of the 19th century Whigs, and I'm definitely sympathetic to them.

He, of course, will win the next poker game. Gerald Ford then will pardon him for cheating.

Nor does Ford.

I read that here a couple of weeks ago when someone posted and excerpt of Reagan's journal. He said he actually voted for Al Gore. That he knew the Bush boy when his dad was VP and he never would vote for him.

Nixon and the Bush's would not be included in that game, and probably not Raygun. Not with these other men.

Reagan was too taken by Alzheimer's in 2000 to have that sort of capability.

If it was possibly inaccurate, then i will stop repeating it. But I am accurate in relating what it said.

started in politics and he didn't get elected as governor until after R was out of office & into alzheimers.

His presidency was a disaster, but his union work in the 30s and 40s was tremendous.

during the McCarthy Era.

That was awesome.

breathing the same air.

As for the "Lincoln would be a Democrat today" stuff, I have an uncle with political views to the right of Rick Santorum who insists JFK would be a Republican Tea-partier type today. Ditto Harry Truman, says he.

I call nonsense on all that sort of thing: people form political views within the context of their times, and the passions and challenges of the era in which they come to maturity. And adult Lincoln today, born, say, in 1965 or '70, would be a very different human being than the one born in 1809 Kentucky. And a Lincoln put in a time machine in 1865 and transported alive to 2012 would be...well, a time traveler with a lot to sort out and catch up on from the last 147 years.

appropriately.

You need to assume the rest are cheating.

. . . all of them REPUBS, all of them supporting a precursor to "Trickle Down" and all of them having a greasy hand in the worst financial disaster of the 20th Century. One where, strangely enough, many wealthy industrialists didn't lose THEIR fortunes.

capitalism and have done a great deal to destroy not only the USA but the world.

Pardoned Nixon.

By getting the VP slot when Agnew resigned. Nixon knew he would be useful.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

http://www.absolutefacts.com/history/abraham-lincoln/lincoln-quotes-slavery.htm

Or you could also say that very few ever grow past the worldview they acquired in childhood. At present, the pace of change really does render many people's viewpoint irrelevant and ineffective.

Lincoln did at least show a capacity to evolve.

When old man Bush dies, there are going to be a lot of books published that will blow the lid off of Reagan's mystique. In the process, they will expose Bush for what he really is.

I know there were no women Presidents, but still, it seems that there should be some GOOPer First Ladies there serving sandwiches and coffee in their little ruffled aprons and pearls.

This is a man's world of cards, whiskey, and cigars!

"Nice Bluff there Abe, but only old rich white dudes are destined to rule 'Murika, now meet our friend...Mr. Booth"

Oh yeah...he's running this year

I think you can guess by the the smiles and laughter.

that guy does paintings for all presidents and parties. He has some Democratic Party ones too. Also, a really cool one of Obama. It isnt a GOP thing.

http://www.eleganthorsepictures.com/thomas-true-blues1.html