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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/02/david-corn-hits-back-at-bill-oreilly-202828.htmlBy DYLAN BYERS | 2/19/15 7:30 PM EST
David Corn, the lead author of a new report alleging that Bill O'Reilly lied about his Falklands War experience, says the Fox News anchor is hiding behind name calling and refusing to account for legitimate discrepancies in his statements.
"To me, the issue here is whether a media figure and journalist like Bill O'Reilly, who claims to be a truth teller, can get away without answering questions about specific statements he's made, and hide behind name calling," Corn told the On Media blog on Thursday. "I would encourage anyone else who covers this story to get Bill O'Reilly to answer those quesitons -- if not to me, than to anyone else."
Corn's remarks came immediately after O'Reilly called Corn "a liar" and a "despicable guttersnipe" during an interview with On Media. O'Reilly said that he "never claimed to have been on the Falkland Islands" and that Corn's report, for Mother Jones, was "a piece of garbage."
In the report, Corn alleges that O'Reilly repeatedly misled viewers by claiming to have been in a war zone during the conflict between England and Argentina in 1982. In his book, in public appearances and on his television program, O'Reilly has claimed to have been "in an active war zone" in the Falklands, despite the fact that no American correspondents are believed to have reached the combat zones on the islands.
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So, Corn proved that O Reilly lied.... "in an active war zone in the Falklands" .... It is what it is...
Faux pas
(14,690 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)He just strongly implied it, and let his willing audience draw the inaccurate conclusion.
Stuart G
(38,445 posts)"In the report, Corn alleges that O'Reilly repeatedly misled viewers by claiming to have been in a war zone during the conflict between England and Argentina in 1982. In his book, in public appearances and on his television program, O'Reilly has claimed to have been "in an active war zone" in the Falklands, despite the fact that no American correspondents are believed to have reached the combat zones on the islands. "..
you be the judge...
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Exact same thing. Except only a few geriatrics trust Fox.
randys1
(16,286 posts)they lied, they poisoned the minds of people I love and loved
They promoted a war they were unwilling to fight in
They insisted my child go and fight and possibly die while theirs were safely away at prep school
They and W owe me and millions like me for nightmares, old age before our time, etc.
I hold them personally responsible and it is a good thing for them that myself and most like me are pacifists.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)Bet he could see smoke from his hotel window!
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)it does say no American "correspondents" are believed to have reached the combat zones.
Calling Bill O a correspondent would be a very large stretch. Maybe he was just there to buying some lunch or something?
salin
(48,955 posts)However, at the time he was a correspondant for one of the networks (CBS, I think?)
JHB
(37,161 posts)...when all of the real active war zones were offshore.
That's his bullshit story, his claim for "I never said that".
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Stuart G
(38,445 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)The falafel incident should've doomed him long ago. Instead, he released the O'Reilly Factor for Kids. Corporate America has coated him with the same Teflon they used so effectively on Raygun.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)So, can the mass media be cowed into ignoring this also, despite the obvious parallels to Brian Wiliams?
Will Fox admit it is not actual news and no one trusted them anyway so what is the big deal?
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Williams is in trouble because he and his network still operated under the illusion that they were truth tellers.
Everyone, including their own viewers, knows Fox intentionally and repeatedly lies, and no one cares.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Which is why Bilbo is apoleptic and is now lying about his lying.
It matters, it matters a lot. Any stab to the smelly underbelly of the Fox beast is good with me.
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)middle of nowhere until Bilbo showed up and folks started shooting at him as he came ashore.
"If you can not trust a news anchor or commentator, then you are not going to watch that person"
Bilbo
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/02/20/mother_jones_says_bill_oreilly_has_his_own_brian_williams_problem.html
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Robertson claimed to have seen combat in Korea. McCloskey alleged that the televangelist got his daddy (a U.S. Senator) to keep him out of combat.
McCloskey insisted that Robertson was on a ship headed for combat until his father used his influence to have him removed. According to McCloskey, Robertson later boasted that he had used his father to "get him out of combat duty."
The libel suit turned out to be an embarrassment to Robertson. During depositions, Paul Brosman, Jr., a retired university professor who served with Robertson in Korea, backed up McCloskey's claim and went even further, asserting that the televangelist had consorted with prostitutes and had sexually harassed a Korean cleaning girl who worked in the barracks. Brosman's deposition asserted that Robertson once feared he had contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute and was "very relieved" when he discovered the problem was a urinary tract infection. Brosman added that he had never personally seen Robertson with a prostitute and said some of his remarks were based on "scuttlebutt" he heard from others.
In the end, using a lame excuse, Robertson wisely dropped the suit.
http://www.schlatter.org/liquor.htm
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Brian Williams admitted he fabricated his story. Bill O never will. O'reilly has unshakable belief in his own BS.
PATRICK
(12,228 posts)and didn't now Senator Al Franken apologize to him for defamation of character? (sarcasm alert icon substitution)
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)A BillO MeBody Award comes in the form of a giant Loofah.
Stuart G
(38,445 posts)By Brendan James Published February 20, 2015, 9:52 AM EST
Not long after wagging his finger at NBC anchor Brian Williams for embellishing stories about his war coverage, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly now faces questions about his own tales covering the Falklands War in the 1980s.
An article by Mother Jones published on Thursday raised the issue, contrasting several statements from O'Reilly over the years with the account of his time covering the war in his 2001 book.
Shortly after the article was published on Thursday night, O'Reilly called it "bullshit" and denied he'd embellished anything.
But the Mother Jones article, written by David Corn and Daniel Schulman, found discrepancies in things the Fox News host had said, including about his time working at CBS News earlier in his career
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Normally he just counters information he doesn't want to hear with "Shut up!"
(For some reason I'm reminded of a very old line from Mad magazine from a man who gets defensive about his combat experience: "Fort Dix was no bed of roses. Lemme tell ya!"
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)The one where he's hot 'n bothered and finally snarls: "F**k it! We'll do it LIE!"
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)He might have been a thousand miles from the fighting but the British could have invaded!
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I believe there is audio evidence of Bill O' Reilly claimed he had been in combat. He was trying to make the argument that he would torture someone in order to get information that would help his fellow soldiers. So, where did he claim he was when he was in combat?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He was 1300 miles away at the time:
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)When Mother Jones gets after someone, you can bet that they have layers and layers of support to stand on. Your links show just that.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He was 1300 miles away from the Falkland Islands at the time:
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He was 1300 miles away from the Falkland Islands:
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Stuart G
(38,445 posts)I wonder how he would answer that one?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There was no fighting in Buenos Aries.
He was an 18 hour flight away from the war:
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)in Buenos Aires. No military operatives on either side were present. It took place on the mainland where no combat occurred. The jostling incident came and the demonstration occurred after hostilities and combat in the Falklands had ceased.
So of course he's a combat veteran. I was jostled the other day by some kids in a dark movie theater and jostled trying to get off the bus. I think I deserve military honors for my service in a theater of war.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)"In the Falklands" "war zone" isn't the only issue. O'Reilly said civilians gunned down by troops at protest. No other reports back that.
https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/568883423395385344