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spanone

(135,844 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:11 PM Feb 2015

CNN: Rudy Giuliani's fall from America's Mayor

good riddance giuliani

video @ link....

Washington (CNN)Rudy wouldn't be Rudy if he backed down.

But by amplifying his charge that President Barack Obama doesn't love America, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani appears ready to risk sullying the powerful mythology that grew around his leadership when he steadied and steeled the nation in the terrible, confusing time after 9/11.

Since those fleeting days when he was a unifying figure, Giuliani has more often dealt in waspish rhetoric and savage mockery -- especially of a president he says has "failed."

"America's Mayor" has gone rogue, lashing out at Democrats and liberal orthodoxy on the war on terror and saying, for example, during the Ferguson controversy last year that the biggest danger to a black child was not from a white police officer but from another African American.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/20/politics/politics-rudy-obama/index.html
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CNN: Rudy Giuliani's fall from America's Mayor (Original Post) spanone Feb 2015 OP
MSNBC carried the same story.... chillfactor Feb 2015 #1
it's good to see cnn taking this clown to task. he adds nothing to the conversation. spanone Feb 2015 #3
I'll contribute some energy drinks GP6971 Feb 2015 #4
The myth of unifying America after 9/11 trumad Feb 2015 #2
I have no respect for that man and his racist attitude. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #5
Rudy is a racist ReTHUG attention seeker malaise Feb 2015 #6
Giuliani: Obama Had a White Mother, So I’m Not a Racist. napkinz Feb 2015 #33
... napkinz Feb 2015 #35
Rudy the American "cad". Historic NY Feb 2015 #7
"the powerful mythology" napkinz Feb 2015 #8
Interesting how Giuliani switched back to 9/11 trying to get sympathy. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #9
Considering what Rudy Giuliani's America looks like gratuitous Feb 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #11
Go back to Free Republic asshole. Chakab Feb 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #16
Bored again? arcane1 Feb 2015 #18
Looks like a live one! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #19
Yeah, but it would be nice to have some variety now and then. arcane1 Feb 2015 #20
LOL. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #21
And I personally miss youe not being being there! marble falls Feb 2015 #31
Thanks. That's very nice of you. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #32
Rats! I missed all the action nikto Feb 2015 #25
I see in your future a GP6971 Feb 2015 #23
yes, rudy is one racist asshole. spanone Feb 2015 #15
we got one! napkinz Feb 2015 #22
Good grief! He was never "America's Mayor." Bleacher Creature Feb 2015 #12
He was always a dick. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #13
but the media's loved him & held him to hero status....now, not so much! spanone Feb 2015 #17
Giuliani has now taken ScumBaggery to spectacular new heights nikto Feb 2015 #24
Rudy will be gone in 2016 El Shaman Feb 2015 #26
I always liked Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2015 #27
I like what Sharpton said - LiberalElite Feb 2015 #28
whoopi went off on the ex-mayor today!!!! spanone Feb 2015 #29
Can you tell us what you Really Think? HaHa You go, girl. n/t libdem4life Feb 2015 #38
He's on the speaking circuit they were saying on Real Time. applegrove Feb 2015 #30
I'm beginning to think past New York conservative mayors don't like black men uponit7771 Feb 2015 #34
I didn't read this but it probably involves a noun, a verb, and 9/11 craigmatic Feb 2015 #36
Rudy is the new Trump. nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #37

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
1. MSNBC carried the same story....
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:16 PM
Feb 2015

what a fall from grace Giuliani has taken and he just keeps digging himself into a deeper hole

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
5. I have no respect for that man and his racist attitude.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:38 PM
Feb 2015

HaHa...he thought it a joke.

Thanks spanone.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
8. "the powerful mythology"
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:57 PM
Feb 2015


Rudy Giuliani emerged from the smoke of 9/11 as the unquestioned hero of the day: America's Mayor, the father figure we could all rely on to be tough, to be wise, to do the right thing. In that uncertain time, it was a comfort to know that he was on the scene and in control, making the best of a dire situation.

But was he really?

Grand Illusion is the definitive report on Rudy Giuliani's role in 9/11—the true story of what happened that day and the first clear-eyed evaluation of Giuliani's role before, during, and after the disaster.

While the pictures of a soot-covered Giuliani making his way through the streets became very much a part of his personal mythology, they were also a symbol of one of his greatest failures. The mayor's performance, though marked by personal courage and grace under fire, followed two terms in office pursuing an utterly wrongheaded approach to the city's security against terrorism. Turning the mythology on its head, Grand Illusion reveals how Giuliani has revised his own history, casting himself as prescient terror hawk when in fact he ran his administration as if terrorist threats simply did not exist, too distracted by pet projects and turf wars to attend to vital precautions.

Authors Wayne Barrett and Dan Collins also provide the first authoritative view of the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, recounting the triumphs and missteps of the city's efforts to heal itself. With surprising new reporting about the victims, the villains, and the heroes, this is an eye-opening reassessment of one of the pivotal events—and politicians—of our time.

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Illusion-Untold-Story-Giuliani/dp/0060536616

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Interesting how Giuliani switched back to 9/11 trying to get sympathy.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:42 PM
Feb 2015

Poor me, I had to endure so much during and after 9/11, doesn't anyone feel sorry for me, doesn't it give me the right to say and do anything.

Nope, it does not.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Considering what Rudy Giuliani's America looks like
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:56 PM
Feb 2015

I don't think I love his version of our country, either. Rudy Giuliani's America is the one where cops sodomize suspects, beat citizens on the streets, torture people to extract bogus confessions, where he philanders freely on a succession of wives, hires and consorts with corrupt bureaucrats and politicians, and lies with reckless abandon about matters large and small.

Fuck Giuliani's America.

Response to spanone (Original post)

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
14. Go back to Free Republic asshole.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 11:06 PM
Feb 2015

On topic, he was never "America's mayor" that was a fiction created by the media in the aftermath of 9/11, a tragedy which he shamelessly exploited for his own gain for years.

Response to Chakab (Reply #14)

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
25. Rats! I missed all the action
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:02 AM
Feb 2015

Deleted too soon.
Dang.

I love to see RWers squirm.

And I really wanted to see what kind of invertebrate would defend Giuliani.


I feel like I was deprived.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
12. Good grief! He was never "America's Mayor."
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 11:00 PM
Feb 2015

He was a racist fraud from day one. This whole"fall from grace" nonsense needs to stop!

spanone

(135,844 posts)
17. but the media's loved him & held him to hero status....now, not so much!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 11:11 PM
Feb 2015

gawd knows why, because as you say, he was always a dick

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
28. I like what Sharpton said -
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:15 AM
Feb 2015

countering Oprah's christening Rudy as "America's Mayor" :

From Wikipedia:

"In the wake of the attacks, Giuliani gained international attention and was widely hailed for his leadership during the crisis.[129] When polled just six weeks after the attack Giuliani received a 79 percent approval rating among New York City voters, a dramatic increase over the 36 percent rating he had received a year earlier – average at the end of a two-term mayorship.[130][131] Oprah Winfrey called him "America's Mayor" at a 9/11 memorial service held at Yankee Stadium on September 23, 2001.[132][133] Other voices denied it was the mayor who had pulled the city together. "You didn't bring us together, our pain brought us together and our decency brought us together. We would have come together if Bozo was the mayor", said civil rights activist Al Sharpton, in a statement largely supported by Fernando Ferrer, one of three main candidates for the mayoralty at the end of 2001. "He was a power-hungry person", Sharpton also said.[134]"

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
30. He's on the speaking circuit they were saying on Real Time.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:29 AM
Feb 2015

He's been saying one outlandish thing per month for months in a row. He's morphed into Donald Trump.

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