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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:11 AM Feb 2015

Newark Star-Ledger Editorial re: Giuliani

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/02/rudy_giulianis_world_of_rhetorical_poison_editoria.html#incart_most-commented_essex_article

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For too many chat show windbags, patriotism is expressed though flag-fondling and mindless rhetoric. But you'd think a former leader of a great city would be able to form a more cogent description.

Rudy Giuliani doesn't even try anymore. The former mayor once described by Jimmy Breslin as "a small man in search of a balcony," was on the stump for Scott Walker Wednesday night, when he said this about President Obama:

"I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America. . . . He wasn't brought up the way you and I were brought up, through love of this country."

There was more about exceptionalism and other concepts that made his audience swoon, but it's remarkable that anyone takes Giuliani seriously anymore, because he is never more than a half-step removed from some of people he finds most contemptible.
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LOVE that Breslin quote!!

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calimary

(81,281 posts)
3. He earned every word of it.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:24 AM
Feb 2015

"...a small man in search of a balcony"! I told my husband that and he said "hmmmm - sounds like Mussolini." Then he started trying to fit that into rudy giuliani's name. So far the best he's done is is "Il Rudy" or "Mussuliani."

Cha

(297,250 posts)
4. "For too many chat show windbags, patriotism is expressed though flag-fondling and mindless rhetoric
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:26 AM
Feb 2015

I only got that far and have to express my approval!

I imagine there's quite a few in NYC who are ashamed of ol rudy now.. more than ever.

Nice cavernous Hole you've dug yourself into, hateful blowhard.

Cha

(297,250 posts)
6. I can imagine.. I was in NYC in Jan 2001 and talking to a cabdriver who wasn't too..
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:30 AM
Feb 2015

happy about him.. this was before all hell broke loose, of course.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
9. In the course of his storied mayoral career he amassed several nicknames:
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:37 AM
Feb 2015

Crueliani, Ghouliani, Generalissimo, Giulianinni....yeah we loved him - NOT!

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
10. I remember when he said, when asked
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:41 AM
Feb 2015

about his definition of freedom, that it was "doing whatever the authorities tell you to do." He's a dictatorial authoritarian, which is probably why he loves 911 so much-it gives him and his ilk the opportunity to exploit it for authoritarian purposes (NSA, DHS, PATRIOT Act, and assorted garbage).

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. Jimmy Breslin and most NYers KNOW that idiot Giuliani. What is amazing to NYers is that he was ever
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:31 AM
Feb 2015

considered to be any kind of hero on 9/11! Even Democrats bought into that fantasy, when in reality he was criminally negligent regarding that city and the threat, which he DENIED and refused to address despite all the warnings he received, that was always imminent after the first attack in 1993.

Can we put to rest that he ever was anything but a FAILED politician and blowhard, and as Breslim said 'a small man' and I would as would the NYC press corps who came to know him very well, a BULLY and an unethical, immoral, stupid, bigoted fool, who had the judgement of a mafia boss (no surprise considering HIS roots) appointing THUGs and felons, like Bernie Kerik to positions of power in that city.

If I hear one more time that he has 'damaged' his image, I will SCREAM. His political career was OVER the day before 9/11 and it had been up to NYers he would have been prosecuted for criminal negligence.

But our Corporate Media found him wandering the city, dazed and in shock, and magically turned this moron into a hero.

Since then all he has done is profit from that terrible tragedy and it's about time to cut him off from those profits. I would not be opposed to seeing him spend some time where his 'hero Top Cop' just spent four years, in Federal Prison.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. My most revolting Ghouliani story...
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:56 AM
Feb 2015

was told to me by a retired NYPD Lieutenant...

I don't remember the year, but one New Year's Eve the bastard requested all NYC ERs to keep crime victims on life support until after midnight. It seems the city was looking at a record low number of homicides that year, and he wanted to push what he could into the next year.

You can imagine the love that got.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. Horrible and it doesn't surprise me in the least. The man has no soul. He 'disappeared' the homeless
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:14 AM
Feb 2015

to make way for his wealthy buddies also. There was nothing but controversy throughout his reign of terror in NYC. Had 9/11 not happened, he would be remembered as a failed politician, whose 'clean-up' of NYC was mostly show.

He claimed to have reduced crime rates, when in fact crime rates had gone down everywhere. Not to mention he was capable of doing the kind of thing you just mentioned to manipulate numbers.

For a while, many NYers did think he was doing a fair job, but over time, he lost so much support his poll numbers were in the low 20s.

He of all people has zero standing to question anyone's 'patriotism'. I'm hoping this will finish him altogether. THIS is the real Giuliani, a small, petty man, insecure, scared and a bully.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
8. Rudy really ought to apologize
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:34 AM
Feb 2015

Not a republican fake apology.
A real honest to goodness
admission that he is entirely
wrong, a heartfelt beg for
the President's forgiveness
and an apology to the people
of the United States for
hispathetic attempt to
insult our President.

Too bad he's such a small man
that he'll never do it

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
15. Not all quarters
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:54 AM
Feb 2015

He has appeared three times on Fox News in the last two days, and the interviews are embarrasingly fawning. As I type this, Sean Hannity is devoting his entire show to support of Rudy's BS, complete with a panel of Obama haters. And "hate radio" is having a lovefest over this guy, their latest hero. This is all nothing compared to the rightwing internet haters.

I know conservative media is considered irrelevant nonsense by many at DU, but the fact is that they have ratings (and influence) that mainstream media outlets envy. Pushback against Rudy doesn't matter when conservative media traffic outnumbers liberals and moderates combined by a four to one margin.



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