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Arcadiasix

(255 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:30 AM Feb 2015

The end of the dream: Greece bows to the inevitable



Syriza’s wild election promises bump up against harsh reality as the Eurozone refuses all but cosmetic changes to the bailout deal.

Greece’s attempt to break the shackles of its bailout package has failed. With that, the risk of the Eurozone breaking up has receded, at least until the summer.

The new left-wing government effectively crumpled Friday under pressure from the rest of the currency union and accepted it had to complete the reforms demanded of it two and a half years ago in return for continued access to the only financial lifeline it has. It also promised to honor all its debts and not to reverse any of the reforms undertaken so far under the 2010 and 2012 bailout programs, backing down from its most important pre-election promises.

In return, the creditors agreed to extend by four months the existing deal, meaning that Athens will still get some €3.6 billion from the Eurozone and European Central Bank, and a bit more from the International Monetary Fund this year. They also all but guaranteed to loosen the country’s budget targets, and to keep available nearly €11 billion earmarked for recapitalizing Greek banks if they get into trouble.

http://fortune.com/2015/02/20/the-end-of-the-dream-greece-bows-to-the-inevitable/?xid=yahoo_fortune
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marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. Larry Summers
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:39 AM
Feb 2015

And everyone involved in the End Game Memo should have to pay Greece's debt. They should have to pay everyone's debt

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Right. Because racking up billions in debt means you should never need to repay it.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:25 AM
Feb 2015

Of course this was inevitable.
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marym625

(17,997 posts)
6. Don't care
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:30 AM
Feb 2015

They're responsible for collapsing the world economy. Even with the crazy spending, this probably would never have gotten to this point without their help

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
10. Well...for compromise to occur, there must willing parties. Germany is not willing, against their
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:25 PM
Feb 2015

own interests they are playing a game of chicken, they are their own worst enemy. Syriza is a progressive party that our own country can learn much from. When one digs deeper, you find that Syriza is a combination of right and left ideology, and that in the USA is what can change everything.

I think the 4 months is going to make Germany realize its folly. They want the stranglehold to continue, but how can it? The Global Dawn would grow in Greece if austerity is maintained...shall we advance to fascism with abandon? Every nation is struggling with debt imposed by "bankruptocracy", they sent in bailiffs to impose debt slavery, fear for profits, unfettered oligarchy. It has reached crisis point in Greece.

So now, we wait, we watch, we learn.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
8. Krugman: that’s arguably a good outcome — time for Greece to get its act together.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:38 AM
Feb 2015

OK, we have an agreement re Greece, according to which … what?

We do have four months of funding, plus what looks like an agreement not to hold Greece to fiscal targets for right now in the face of probably fiscal deterioration. The question is what strings were attached.

Greece seemingly gave a lot of ground on the language: the stuff about fiscal adjustment in line with the November 2012 Eurogroup is back in, which Germany will presumably claim represents a commitment to stay with the 4.5 percent primary surplus target. But Greece apparently is claiming that the agreement offers new flexibility, which means that it will assert that it has agreed to no such thing.

So we’re in a weird place: this looks like a defeat for Greece, but since nothing substantive was resolved, it’s only a defeat if the Greeks accept it as one; which means that nothing at all is clearly resolved. And that’s arguably a good outcome — time for Greece to get its act together.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/delphic-demarche/?_r=0

polly7

(20,582 posts)
9. No, they're just going to wait it out, and once Podemos comes to power in Spain
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:50 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:46 AM - Edit history (2)

and with all the other support they're getting from millions of ordinary people outside Greece, it's just going to take some hard work and a lot of great chess-playing.

Check out some of the comments here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017246087

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'Let Greece Breathe'

By Staff Writers, teleSUR
teleSUR
Sunday, Feb 15, 2015


Greece's new Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras of Syriza, waves as he leaves a polling station in Athens January 25, 2015 | Photo: Reuters

With the left-wing Syriza government not backing down on its electoral mandate to tackle austerity policies, despite ongoing pressure from other European governments, progressive movements across Europe are expressing their solidarity with Greece this weekend.

In Rome, thousands of Italians marched on Saturday calling on the Eurozone to "Give Greece a Chance".

Sunday will see protests in London, Madrid and other European cities demanding "Let Greece breathe" in reference to the call from the new Syriza government for time to renegotiate the conditions of the financial bailout, initiated after the global crisis of 2007. The bailout was accompanied by strict austerity policies blamed for a dramatic collapse in economic growth and living standards.



Huge anti-austerity protest near Colosseum, Rome
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In Germany, whose government has been accused of being the most insistent in maintaining austerity measures, dozens of leading trade unionists have signed a declaration calling Syriza’s victory “an opportunity...for a fundamental reassessment and revision of EU economic and social policy.” The trade unionists explain that “The billions of euros that have flowed into Greece have been used primarily to stabilise the financial sector. At the same time, the country has been driven into deep recession by brutal cutbacks in government spending” creating “a social and humanitarian crisis.”




Full article:

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_69384.shtml

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'The Coercion of Greece"

By Mark Weisbrot
Source: Counterpunch
February 20, 2015

The Economist’s February 6 cover displayed the Venus de Milo statue pointing a revolver, with the headline “Go ahead, Angela, make my day.” In the editors’ upside-down world, Greece is threatening Europe, or at least Germany. Really?

On Monday, February 16, European officials “handed Athens an ultimatum: Agree by Friday to continue with a bailout program or risk the funding that the country needs to avoid a default,” the New York Times reported.

Then there is Wolfgang Schäuble, Germany’s finance minister and die-hard supporter of the failed austerity policies that brought Greece six years of depression. On February 11, according to the Financial Times, he “hinted darkly that a Greek plan to leave the bailout at the end of the month could draw a harsh reaction from financial markets.”


Many observers don’t seem to get it, but this is all about the European authorities using coercion to accomplish political as well as economic goals. That’s why these people have not been content to just rely on their enormous bargaining power and the threat of economic dislocation that would ensue if Greece is forced out of the euro. Instead, they have been pro-active: on February 4 the ECB announced that it would no longer accept Greek government bonds as collateral. This was a deliberate effort to crash Greek financial markets and increase capital flight so as to force Syriza to capitulate as soon as possible.


Full article: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-coercion-of-greece/


(Borrowed from DU'er DeSwiss)

He doesn't look like he'd be all that intimidated by their threats, either.
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