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Air Force sending 'tankbuster' jets back to Europe
By Brad Lendon, CNN
Updated 9:12 AM ET, Fri February 13, 2015
(CNN)The U.S. Air Force is sending its "tankbusters" back to Europe.
"The Air Force is increasing rotational presence in Europe to reassure our allies and partner nations that our commitment to European security is a priority," Lt. Gen. Tom Jones, vice commander, United States Air Forces in Europe -- Air Forces Africa, said in a statement.
The Air Force said besides operating in Germany, the A-10s will be forward deployed to other partner nations in Eastern Europe. U.S. forces have operated out of bases in Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Poland, among others, in the past year.
The A-10, also known as the "Warthog," was designed in the 1970s to support ground troops in Europe against the tanks and armored vehicles of the then-Soviet Union. Though the jets can carry a variety of bombs and missiles, they are best known for their nose-mounted, seven-barrel 30 mm Gatling gun that can fire almost 4,000 rounds per minute, enough to quickly blow apart a tank. The planes are also durable, with the pilot protected from ground fire by a wrapping of titanium often called "the bathtub." And they are designed for easy maintenance in battlefield areas, with interchangeable parts for the right and left sides of the aircraft.
Those capabilities have been battle-proven in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Balkans.
Late last year, A-10s were deployed in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, the U.S. military campaign against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James said in January that the A-10s had flown 11% of the Air Force's missions against ISIS despite coming into the conflict more than two months after initial U.S. involvement.
Despite its current usefulness, the A-10 is on the Defense Department's chopping block, with the Air Force wanting to turn over the jet's ground support mission to its newest fighter, the F-35.
Critics of the move say the A-10 can do better than the F-35 because it can get lower and slower, allowing pilots to get real eyes on targets. And they say it is way cheaper than the F-35, with a flight hour for the A-10 costing roughly half of what it costs to operate the F-35, according to numerous reports.
The Air Force says it just doesn't have the money to support the A-10, which will be more than 40 years old at its planned retirement in 2019, and its newest, more advanced aircraft.
"It's not about not liking or not wanting the A-10. It's about some very tough decisions that we have to make to recapitalize an Air Force for the threat 10 years from now," Gen. Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said in January.
The dozen A-10s, along with 300 personnel from Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona, are expected to be in Germany by the end of February, the Air Force said. The deployment is expected to last about six months.
A-10s have not been deployed to Europe since May 2013, when 21 A-10s that were stationed at Spangdahlem were removed, according to a report from Stars and Stripes.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/12/world/a-10-jets-to-europe/index.html
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)
they should develop a true replacement. The F-35 money pit is never going to be able to give the kind of ground support and armored vehicle busting abilities of the A-10. The F-35 has defective cannon software and when that is taken care of it has very limited ammo. The F-35 is one of the worst military aircraft ever designed and built. I don't know where DUer unhappycamper found this pic but it says it all.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)But it's probably safer than the F-22 Strangler....
ileus
(15,396 posts)I used to write crappy software in house then spend 2 weeks on site fixing everything the customer speced out.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)Instead of the A-10 the Air Force is getting the cost over run grounded record setting boondoggle the F-35 also known as the flying pig. An old Warthog beats a Flying Pig any day.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Take a lickin' and keeps on tickin'
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)are all laying around at "Davis-Monthan Air Force Base (IE:The Boneyard). Arab forces are flying F4s and Europe is begging for A10s and we threw all our old ones away in the desert.
LOOK-I found some F4s....
Oh and for comparison of close air support capabilities the F35 carries 180 rounds that it should be able to fire by 2019 and the A10 carries 1150 rounds that they've been firing since the late 70s...
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Friday was historic at Barksdale AFB, when the first B-52 to ever to rejoin the fleet after being mothballed landed following a unique flight from the boneyard at Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona.
Seven years after it was sent to the U.S. Air Forces famed boneyard at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona, B-52H Ghost Rider has been reborn.
Its the first time weve ever brought any of the B-52s out of the boneyard, said Col. Keith Schultz, a 6,500-hour veteran of B-52s who has flown many of the aging birds to that final roost but savored Fridays flight resurrecting one to new life at Barksdale Air Force Base.
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/local/2015/02/17/mothballed-gains-new-lease-life/23554065/
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)Aristus
(66,379 posts)Me and my fellow tankers loved that beast. It's an ugly airplane, but a beautiful sight to see in support of tank exercises.
On maneuvers, the Hog would swoop over the field while we cheered, then disappear behind the hills, and seconds later, we'd hear the chainsaw rip of the Gatling gun as it engaged a simulated target.
Great piece of military hardware. A holdover from a time when quality prevailed in military procurement, instead of lobbyists for greedy, incompetent defense contractors.
EEO
(1,620 posts)Up there with the B-52 and the P51-D Mustang.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Threats to the nation, general, or threats to the defense contractor consultant job market for retired top brass?
If the A-10 is outdated then develop a suitable replacement. The F-35 Cash Cow isn't it, and pretending it is could also be construed as a "threat 10 years from now".
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)It's ugly. It flies slow. And sometimes it recovers from missions with parts shot off. Its lack of sexiness will kill it eventually.