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Nate Cohn
FEB. 19, 2015
Whenever I mention that Hillary Clinton is an overwhelming favorite for the Democratic nomination and would be even if Senator Elizabeth Warren ran the conversation usually comes back to 2008. She was supposed to be inevitable last time, the refrain goes, and she lost.
I get it. I remember that Mrs. Clinton was inevitable, and I see why todays discussions of Mrs. Clintons strength sound familiar.
But there is no equivalence between Mrs. Clintons strength then and now. She was never inevitable eight years ago. If a candidate has ever been inevitable for the nomination it is Mrs. Clinton today.
She was certainly a strong candidate in 2008. But by this time in that cycle, it was already clear that she would not cruise to the nomination. Yes, she held an impressive 40 percent or so of the Democratic vote in national polls, leading Senator Barack Obama by 15 points. That, however, is not inevitability.
Candidates with a case for inevitability the ones who started as big favorites and won the nomination without a long fight, like Al Gore and George W. Bush in 2000 and Bob Dole in 1996 all held at least 50 percent of the vote in early polls, and led their opposition by enormous margins. The record of candidates with similar standing to Mrs. Clinton, like Gerald Ford in 1976 or Ted Kennedy in 1980, is not at all perfect. Kennedy lost, and Ford faced a protracted contest.
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Gman
(24,780 posts)The danger comes from a very long and protracted atrack on her during the GOP primaries. In the meantime, Denocrats don't have anything to gear up for until the convention. There is no focus until half way through the year this will likely make for a close race in November. However, never underestimate the Clintons.
glasshouses
(484 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)LOL...
Gman
(24,780 posts)Best record by Democrats I know of.
dissentient
(861 posts)it makes me think this is going to be an unexpected primary, with an outcome that can't be foreseen.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)After all, the GOP ended up with Mitt, the guy no one seemed enthused about, because he outlasted everyone else falling on their faces.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)The only reason she might not get the nomination, is if she doesn't run.
Rather than tearing her down and damaging our nominee, her naysayers should be working on convincing her not to run.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)I have no influence to convince her of a damn thing but I would guess that if she thinks she can't win then she won't run.
Her "viability" along with future Turd Way fucks must be obliterated.
Hey Turd Way, whatever you think the Democratic party is a vehicle for that you can't get from your natural party, it will be denied to you. Go home and moderate your own shitty party. If you're so big and bad take on a real fight and take out the Bushes in a power play there but you won't because you types really work for them and corporate interests to destroy opposition to the Bush agenda in the Democratic party.