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Posted on Feb 21, 2015
Commenting on the current state of American politics, renowned linguist Noam Chomsky highlights just how conservative U.S. political parties have gotten.
djean111
(14,255 posts)"left" has become, to some Democrats, an insult and a way to diminish and ignore.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)win, and when they do, of course, we get governed by politicians who are indeed a LOT more right than left.
God forbid we have ideologues who long for principles and all that shit. Principles are soooo yesteryear.
Really, Vanilla, you are well on the way to making me feel that the Democratic Party is just as soulless as the GOP. Congratulations!
Octoberfurst
(42 posts)I get sick and tired of hearing some Democrats say that we must be "realists" and be more "moderate" or even conservative to win votes. Bullshit! Chomsky is right! The Democratic Party is now a center-right party while the GOP has gone batshit crazy into fascism. I happen to be a progressive and I want progressive values promoted! I don't want my party to be Republican-lite. I want my party to be for the working class! To push for a raise in the minimum wage, to be anti-war, to make corporations pay their share of taxes, to provide health care and education to all! But I guess that is asking too much! We have to be "realists" after all and kiss the ass of the rich just like the GOP does. Yeah and we shouldn't talk too much about the wage gap or the environment or anything that really matters because we don't want to turn off the conservative voters who aren't going to vote for us anyway. Morons! There is a large segment of this society that wants progressive values promoted but we haven't been delivering so they stay home on election day and then we wonder why we lose to lunatics like Bachmann or Jindal. The Democratic Party needs to wake up and smell the coffee before it is too late.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)and perpetual war. I am hardly being unrealistic.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts).. the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-George Bernard Shaw
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)"Liberal" became an epithet in political culture. Now, some in the Democratic Party are completing the saturation of that odious meme, the demonization of the term, "liberal", in the culture.
It is despicable.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)of using the noun Democrat as an adjective. I've read or heard this said several times over the last year or so. It makes me crazy every time.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Especially here at DU....
Autumn
(45,096 posts)My father took me to register when I came of age. When the woman asked what party affiliation, my Dad answered Democrat. I thought leaving would really be hard but I left the DMV with a smile on my face.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Despite the fact that many here will talk about "Realism."
Frankly if we didn't push the mainstream democrates left they would just continue on their merry way bedding down with the corporate sector.
ananda
(28,864 posts)..
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)It is necessary for corporate Republicans to be batshit crazy, in order for corporate Democrats to continue moving rightward.
United oligarchy with a united goal, merely wearing a democracy costume.
Thank you. Bookmarking.
Broward
(1,976 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)The wacky Republicans are designed to frighten us into voting for corporate Democrats who've utterly abandoned the policies that once made our party a fierce advocate for working men and women.
While we're busy obsessing about nutjobs who question evolution and climate change, corporations are basically taking over the country.
"The table has tilted, folks. The game is rigged. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care!" -- George Carlin
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Actually it is part of a plan. More than likely developed by these right wing think tanksthe CIA.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and able to see through the theatrics of it all.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)this in the 1980's....
What the "corpo-dems" call "fucking retarded and worse than the tea party" (rahm and schumer) is actually the majority base that was once Known as the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.
So, I Strongly reject the new meme...if "we" want to take the Dem Party Back? Start acting like a Democrat and do what the Reactionary's have done to the GOP...cuz, they're Already infiltrated into the Dem Party and the weakest, most greedy of those who call themselves Democrat are leading the charge.
elaristotle
(26 posts)"complex systems are not subject to clever fixes. Rather, changes often have unexpected results (that shouldnt happen with a clock), so change necessarily remains incremental. But without an agreement on goals, without statements of purpose, we are going to continue to see changes that are not in the interest of the majority. Increasingly, its corporations and not governments that are determining how the world works....."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/opinion/mark-bittman-what-is-the-purpose-of-society.html
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bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)lame54
(35,292 posts)When he said the left is moving right and the right is moving into the loony bin
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)has pointed it out as well.
lame54
(35,292 posts)but Maher said basically the same thing first
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Step 1: Bill Clinton was only cautious. Step 2: Obama followed in the Bill Clinton footsteps with Wall Street Advisers. Step 3: Hillary may openly be a Republican Democrat, if elected. Will Wall Street will give her permission or will she make the decisions? Hillary could bring us, explosive Trickle-Up/end of representative democracy as we all fall off the extreme end.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)another tizzy. Rec
daleanime
(17,796 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)opposition and has had a severe impact on the power of alternative voices.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)In the field of LGBT rights, both parties have moved left. When the money wasn't looking, we actually made progress.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Those that have it are going to make sure they keep it and get much, much more.
Those that don't have it are not getting any.
A big investment now is services to the poor. Wouldn't want to ruin a good thing.
And the wealthy shall inherit the Earth. Well, their kids will.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)The Tea Party is the perfect example of branded pre-packed crap being sold to a huge number of people as they gain more and more freedumbs.
We lose freedom and they gain freedumb. Chomsky is a genius and is correct, the shift to the right doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon.