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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:05 PM Feb 2015

Fran Lebowitz: When Giuliani was mayor an unarmed black man was shot every 5 minutes

During the panel discussion on Real Time last night, Bill Maher spoke with public intellectual Fran Lebowitz, director Rob Reiner, and Bill Nye “The Science Guy” about the rationale behind former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani’s comments about Obama not loving America.

Lebowitz said that when Giuliani ran for mayor of New York City in 1993, his ads said “vote for me and it’ll be 1952 again. He is just soaked in nostalgia. That’s what he meant when he said Obama doesn’t love the country the way we love the county.”

“What does it mean,” Maher asked, “that Republicans want to go back to an era, the Fifties, where America was run by socialism?”

“You mean economic policy,” Lebowitz replied. “The New Deal. That’s not the part they miss. They miss — you know, what is behind Giuliani’s comments, and we’re not allowed to say this, but it’s racism. We now live in a society where it’s worse to call someone a racist than to be one.”

“And yet they say the most racist things,” Maher said. “Ben Stein, last year, said ‘Obama is the most racist president we’ve ever had.’ And I thought, even more than the eleven who actually owned slaves?” ....................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/fran-lebotwitz-when-giuliani-was-mayor-an-unarmed-black-man-was-killed-every-5-minutes/



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Fran Lebowitz: When Giuliani was mayor an unarmed black man was shot every 5 minutes (Original Post) marmar Feb 2015 OP
It was a very interesting discussion GP6971 Feb 2015 #1
I thought this was the best line of the night... dhill926 Feb 2015 #2
Fran Liebowitz is an amazing person, I am saving Real Time for later today to savor her interview Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #3
Let me see, one unarmed black man shot every 5 minutes. SheilaT Feb 2015 #4
true, bizarre statement DLnyc Feb 2015 #5

dhill926

(16,339 posts)
2. I thought this was the best line of the night...
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:33 PM
Feb 2015

"We now live in a society where it’s worse to call someone a racist than to be one.”

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. Fran Liebowitz is an amazing person, I am saving Real Time for later today to savor her interview
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:47 PM
Feb 2015

nt

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. Let me see, one unarmed black man shot every 5 minutes.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:03 PM
Feb 2015

That would be 12 an hour, that's 288 a day, some 1800 a week. Somehow I think that saying an unarmed black man was shot every 5 minutes to be a bit of an exaggeration.

Not to say Giuliani was a nice guy, but that sort of overstatement isn't helpful.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
5. true, bizarre statement
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:19 PM
Feb 2015

Not sure if she said that or it was added to OP. Either way, I agree with you that we ought to try to stick with reality, and not get dragged down into pit of truth-mangling and coded lies that the likes of Giuliani participate in.

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