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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:00 PM Feb 2015

"When we run as Republican-lite we lose"

Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy Is Ready To Rumble

by Zeke J Miller

Governors tend to pull their punches when it comes to criticizing their peers. Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy is playing a different game.

Attacking New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie by name, taking a shot at Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s concern over terror attacks in Milwaukee, and mocking Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal’s presidential aspirations, the New England Democrat has no qualms about taking the fight to the GOP. “Such a charitable man,” Malloy said of Christie, with a proverbial tongue in his cheek. “He has spread goodwill to so many places. He’s really quite remarkable, isn’t he.”

Moments earlier, in an interview with TIME on Thursday, he muffled a laugh as he described Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, whose remarks he once called “the most insane statement I’ve ever heard,” as the “toughest one to beat in the Republican field.”

Seizing an opportunity in a party depleted of household names not Clinton or Obama, Malloy is rising to the occasion, positioning himself as one of the party’s top attack dogs as the 2016 cycle approaches.

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http://time.com/3717736/dan-malloy-chris-christie-connecticut/

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"When we run as Republican-lite we lose" (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2015 OP
"I think there are a lot of Democrats who want Hillary to run... MohRokTah Feb 2015 #1
Yes, she would be. But will the republicans..... daleanime Feb 2015 #4
I see you didn't read the linked article. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #5
Really? daleanime Feb 2015 #6
LOL. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #10
Silly. We're not voting for Hillary but we are voting for who she might pick for a SC justice... L0oniX Feb 2015 #13
And who decides on the picks we are allowed? daleanime Feb 2015 #16
Goldman Sachs. L0oniX Feb 2015 #35
Good piece. Curious, though, who he's calling 'Republican-lite.' wyldwolf Feb 2015 #2
obama did it 2X & hillary can do it too nt msongs Feb 2015 #3
Obama ran as a progressive in 2008. It got him elected. In 2012 he ran as the incumbent. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #11
Really? How so? wyldwolf Feb 2015 #20
Candidate Obama promised to: bvar22 Feb 2015 #23
His campaign platform was virtually indistinguishable from Clinton's wyldwolf Feb 2015 #25
So Hillary is also going not do all those things Obama promised to get elected? LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #28
No. You are very wrong, bvar22 Feb 2015 #29
No. You are very wrong, wyldwolf Feb 2015 #30
Are you REALLY going to bring up a book written well before the election? bvar22 Feb 2015 #32
Yes, I am. Because politicians write books before elections. Do you deny he wrote it? wyldwolf Feb 2015 #33
Obama should have brought more "audacity" to the White House, bvar22 Feb 2015 #37
Republican lite = Third Way "Democrats" blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #7
Like Dan Malloy? wyldwolf Feb 2015 #8
All Too True cantbeserious Feb 2015 #9
The current Democratic Machine is run by the Conservative Wing rhett o rick Feb 2015 #12
Please view post 13 and vote accordingly. L0oniX Feb 2015 #14
Keep in mind though that Malloy just barely won both of his elections. NutmegYankee Feb 2015 #15
Because he's a fool. lol bigwillq Feb 2015 #17
He has a slightly awkward demeanor. NutmegYankee Feb 2015 #18
Oh, I agree. bigwillq Feb 2015 #19
I like Dan Malloy. Cha Feb 2015 #21
Didn't everyone accuse Bill Clinton of being Republican-lite? And Obama? And they both won twice. n/ pnwmom Feb 2015 #22
Only because millions of Liberal Democrats were willing... bvar22 Feb 2015 #24
regardless of why you think they won, they and many others DID win wyldwolf Feb 2015 #26
The difference between what I read here and what I hear from Sanders. woo me with science Feb 2015 #27
Bingo. n/t arcane1 Feb 2015 #31
+1000 Alittleliberal Feb 2015 #34
thiiiiiiiiiissssssss^^^^^^^^^^^ BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #36
Like the man said, KamaAina Feb 2015 #38
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. "I think there are a lot of Democrats who want Hillary to run...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:06 PM
Feb 2015

and I think she would be an extremely strong candidate for the nomination and to be elected."

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
13. Silly. We're not voting for Hillary but we are voting for who she might pick for a SC justice...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:23 PM
Feb 2015

who is someone we don't know yet. But we must trust Hillary to pick the justice we voted for. Get it?

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
2. Good piece. Curious, though, who he's calling 'Republican-lite.'
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:08 PM
Feb 2015

Curious, though, who he's calling 'Republican-lite.'

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. Obama ran as a progressive in 2008. It got him elected. In 2012 he ran as the incumbent.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:17 PM
Feb 2015

If HRC runs against Jeb the Oligarchs will be in seventh heaven.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Candidate Obama promised to:
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:52 PM
Feb 2015

*Make EFCA the "law of the Land"

*Immediately re-negotiate NAFTA protecting American Jobs

*Put on comfortable shoes and walk the line wherever Unions were not allowed

*Label GMOs and Country of Origin on our food

*Raise the CAP on Social Security

The DLC doesn't do ANY of THAT shit.
Sad that Ptresident Obama forgot about all those promises.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
25. His campaign platform was virtually indistinguishable from Clinton's
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:10 PM
Feb 2015

As was his Senate voting record.

Welfare reform? Check.
Privatized Social Security companion accounts? Check

"The conservative revolution Reagan helped usher in gained traction because Reagan's central insight--that the liberal welfare state had grown complacent and overly bureaucratic, with Democratic policy makers more obsessed with slicing the economic pie than with growing he pie--contained a good deal of truth."

... believes in welfare reform.
... believes in the free market.
... believes in private investment accounts to compliment social security.
... believes the Democratic party must make a turn to the right away from the post 1960s social upheavals.
... believes in finding 'third ways' in classic conservative-liberal conflicts.
... believes in public education reforms, including merit pay for teachers.
... believes in public service.
... believes in a strong military.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
30. No. You are very wrong,
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:44 PM
Feb 2015

....but that is an easy mistake for those who weren't paying attention.

Audacity of Hope

Pg.8-9

Examples of "New Democrat speak."

pg. 10

Obama expresses centrist/DLC beliefs on free market competition. He states his feeling that many government programs (social programs) have not worked as advertised.

pg. 11

Obama rejects special interests, or single issue, politics based on race, gender, sexual orientation, or victimhood - one of the purpose of the DLC. "Common good." Bill Clinton.

pg. 20

Despite Barbara Boxer signing on to Rep. Stepanie Tubbs Jones' challenge of the 2004 presidential election, Obama votes to certify it, believing Bush won the election despite evidence of voter fraud in Ohio.

Pg. 23

Obama recognizes the global war on terrorism is real, and not a "bumpersticker slogan." But he calls it a "the battle against international terrorism," one he believes should be addressed both by dealing with global poverty and a "judicious projection of military power."

Pg.24

Though he admits he believes Democratic ideology is more grounded in fact than that of the GOP, Obama expresses disdain for the conspiracy theories of the fringes, "of America being hijacked by an evil cabal." He says the left and right have become "mirror images of each other," whose purpose is "not to pursuade the other side but to keep their bases agitated and assured of the rightness of their respective causes."

pg. 31

Obama says liberals of the 60s/70s valued entitlements over duties and responsibilities.


http://www.diffen.com/difference/Barack_Obama_vs_Hillary_Clinton

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
32. Are you REALLY going to bring up a book written well before the election?
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:05 PM
Feb 2015

I can write a book making me look like an American Hero.
Doesn't make it true.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
33. Yes, I am. Because politicians write books before elections. Do you deny he wrote it?
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:10 PM
Feb 2015

Do you think he was lying in his book?

Do you think he was pretending to be something he wasn't in the book? Or was he pretending to be something he wasn't in the election?

You never disappoint, bvar22. Trying to discount The Audacity of Hope because it destroys your argument. CLASSIC!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
37. Obama should have brought more "audacity" to the White House,
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:36 PM
Feb 2015

and less "hope".
His first years, he was Play dough for the Republicans, Wall Street, and Major Corporations.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. The current Democratic Machine is run by the Conservative Wing
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:19 PM
Feb 2015

and stands on HRC or nothing. It's up to the Democratic Wing to oust them and fight for a progressive.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
15. Keep in mind though that Malloy just barely won both of his elections.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:57 PM
Feb 2015

CT is a notoriously hard state to get Democratic governors elected in, though I don't know why. We can elect the President by 60%, but the Governor by only 51%. I'm happy to have him, but he didn't seem to get the base out like the President did.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
17. Because he's a fool. lol
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:07 PM
Feb 2015

Don't like him at all.

He had a good machine around him and got out the people needed to win, but I don't think he's relatable at all. Seems like a tool.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
18. He has a slightly awkward demeanor.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:26 PM
Feb 2015

But he seemed otherwise fine when I met him. He is 1000% better than the Monopoly Man he was running against.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
22. Didn't everyone accuse Bill Clinton of being Republican-lite? And Obama? And they both won twice. n/
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:38 PM
Feb 2015

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. Only because millions of Liberal Democrats were willing...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:55 PM
Feb 2015

...to hold their noses and vote for the Lesser of Two Evils.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
26. regardless of why you think they won, they and many others DID win
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:14 PM
Feb 2015

Which disputes the op's title.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
27. The difference between what I read here and what I hear from Sanders.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:18 PM
Feb 2015

Malloy: We have to run to the left or we lose.

Sanders: We have to end oligarchy. We have to restore democracy. People are suffering. This is supposed to be a nation of, by, and for the people.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
36. thiiiiiiiiiissssssss^^^^^^^^^^^
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:46 AM
Feb 2015

It's like when Democrats lose they blame "messaging." It's all kabuki which apparently lots of "Democrats" eat up with a spoon.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
38. Like the man said,
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:52 PM
Feb 2015

“Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time”.

The man being, of course, Harry S Truman.

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