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unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:14 PM Apr 2012

Who or what creates good-paying jobs?

In your opinion, who or what in our economy is responsible for creating the most good-paying, livable-wage jobs with decent benefits?


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Large business.
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Small business.
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Federal government.
1 (13%)
Local government.
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Middle-class purchasing power.
7 (88%)
Upper-class purchasing power.
0 (0%)
Democrats.
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Republicans.
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Other.
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Who or what creates good-paying jobs? (Original Post) unkachuck Apr 2012 OP
Mitt Rmoney does. bluerum Apr 2012 #1
nt cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #2
Yeah, outside of the US. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #4
People with jobs create jobs Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #3
Gee ... and I thought it was Boehner! RKP5637 Apr 2012 #5
Demand for goods and services creates jobs Tsiyu Apr 2012 #6
Demand. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #7
Other. jp11 Apr 2012 #8
Demand-Side economics baby!! Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #9

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
6. Demand for goods and services creates jobs
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:17 PM
Apr 2012

How the providers of these goods and services address the compensation of the labor involved determines the quality of the jobs .

Good-paying, livable-wage jobs with decent benefits are created by human beings who appreciate and reward their employees, and human beings who understand that a well-paid, healthy workforce adds value to a company and its products, and forms a safe, secure, good society where all people can thrive.

If you don't pay your employees enough to support the local businesses, and those businesses don't pay their workers enough to buy your products or services, who the hell do you think is going to buy anything?

Badgers?

Robots?

Magical Air People?

I work as a contractor at one place that is shocked, shocked I tell you that their sales suck. Yet they are a completely unsustainable workplace, paying shit wages (they call "competitive" - code for "as cheap as everyone else around&quot and offering people only 15 or 20 hours a week on the time clock.

They hire people by the dozens because the turnover is astounding.

Q: If they think their business model is so peachy, why are they complaining that no one is buying their shit?

A: American corporations ( and this is a biggie corp I use as an example) are run by short-sighted morons.


Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
7. Demand.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:22 PM
Apr 2012

Which makes me curious who the proponents of all-robot labor force think is going to be buying the robot-made stuff.

jp11

(2,104 posts)
8. Other.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:31 PM
Apr 2012

It used to be that a populace with good jobs and purchasing power begat more good jobs but that was then. You need governance to step in and regulate, enforce benefits, fair working condition/practitioners perhaps even be the engine of growth for jobs.

Today what creates the most good paying jobs with livable wages is the government, this includes the military industrial complex, like it or not.

If and when corporations understand that paying living wages, having happier workers, and having higher employment benefits them more than short term profits we can have better jobs. As long as they see that short changing workers gets them more money while squeezing their workers for more productivity keeps the labor market desperate for their crappy jobs they aren't going to see the light.

None of it is likely to happen without government intervention to implement regulations giving workers better rights, most likely through unionization but that seems less and less likely with unions shrinking not growing.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
9. Demand-Side economics baby!!
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:12 AM
Apr 2012

The only working class people that "believe" in supply-side economics are team player ideologues.

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