The present-day Republican Party wouldn't allow an accomplished soldier-statesman like Eisenhower to be president. I wonder if I'll live to see the Republicans return to a non-lunatic form of operations. I have my doubts.

She's quite that liberal, since she seems to support all of our involvement in the various wars we've been in, and the new conflicts we're embroiling ourselves into. I've never seen her argue against a war yet.

…and felt sick for just a minute until I gathered my senses and re-read it.

Thanks for the quote…a great truth!

Amazing how incredibly far to the right they have gone, and dragged the whole country with them. and they have gotten away with it at the same time by beating it into our heads that Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc are all these ultra radical far left communists. What better way to cover up radicalizing you own party then by comparing it to your opponent and claiming they are moving left when in fact they have moved center-right.

Basically when the republican party latched onto the teat of the John Birch Society and the Klan.

A lot of people switched party affiliation then.
A quick overview from a generally accepted but sill a bit questionable source, Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

They came from a long line of Republicans, dating back to Lincoln. Kent/Jackson State was the last straw.

Our country has lost so much.

I was raised in a Republican family on Long Island, New York., In 1956 I was an ardent Eisenhower Republican. I am now 75 and an ardent Democrat. As I explained to my Republican son-in-law from Mississippi, I didn't leave the Republicans, they left me!

When she got her first look at Reagan she immediately started voting for Democrats and did so for the rest of her life. She thought Reagan was nuts. Gee I wonder why?

I never heard of such a thing!

that folks act like political values are partisanly static.

and I'm probably a little out of it.

She's a neoliberal Democrat, like Eisenhower was, but she's not really that liberal. She's pretty inline with neoliberal, ship jobs away, war without end.

And the social issues of course--she's liberal on those.

Are you really celebrating where Democrats giving ground, has gotten us now? No fairness in media, 98% right-wing talk, of all talk in the radio, a rabidly right-wing FOX, and a fake left, MSNBC that has been making ominous rumblings lately, of firing all of its less conservative hosts, and "remaking" itself.

Letting Democrats slip to "ship the jobs away, celebrate war, help republicans cut benefits to help a debt, Republicans created, cutting inheritance taxes--all of that, you're happy with? Because I know I'm not. Bring me an old Democrat, I'll take them any day.

The fifties, what little l remember about it, I loved it.

... aging teabaggers mostly regard the Eisenhower era as the kind of golden era they want when they take "their country" back.

But they probably just want to restore Jim Crow.

They'd load their pants at the very thought.

Conversely, I think those rates, indexed for inflation, would be a damn fine idea.

We have a real problem in this country when Joe Sixpack believes busting unions is good and taxing millionaires is bad.

The way she explained it, it made perfect logic. Having been nurtured in that age, I too reflect some of the more common sense values of early Cold War conservatives. The right was the likes of the John Birch Society.

history seems to be repeating itself, or at least playing variations on a theme.

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

...became a Democrat/Independent after Watergate. she is currently having an interesting e-mail exchange with her 84 yr old brother, who is still an ardent Republican.

I will send her this link

out on every idiotic thing they do. Has to listen to bridge and church friends parrot the Faux party line.
These women rock!

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The Republicans are more screwed up today but back then they still supported Right to Work Laws, were
against Medicare, Federal Aid To Education. And they supported the Black List. Crooks like Richard Nixon, & Sherwin Adams (remember vacuna coats?) were in the administration. Read the Republican era party platform and you get Joe McCarthy, James B. Utt, and others who wanted to take us back to the Warren G. Harding era. They used to sing "I Like Ike he's a friendly guy, when things go wrong he doesn't pine or sigh, That great big smile and friendly grin, makes us forget the trouble we're in".

The Schutzstaffel is what Eisenhower had to deal with. Secrets…

The corporate business and political connections in America screwed up so bad because of greed to profiteer from the war.

Many of the cross product in the misery and horror of war crimes know with guilt in conscious the money the Bush family made, Bush built a fortune via corporate business, that built the concentration camps and misery through war profiteering.

Prescott Bush did what he did, and his grandson did what he did through Gitmo, and his friend Cheney would do it again. It amazing how history is repeated.

America had no recourse but to enter world war two to terminate the war because of what the Brush family corruption and complicity, along with Harriman banking and industrialist key player in the Union Pacific Railroad, and a host of many more collaborated for profit.

This is the beginning of the Military Industrial Complex that Eisenhower warned America about.

Harriman’s Railroad is connected to the largest medical insurance company in America, the United Health Care System which is tied to the governments largest Medical Service Medicare. All controlled by Congress. There are many, many players in this corrupt system.

So many players are in this corruption it is an embarrassment of many fold, however as it is exposed those guilty will eventually will understand what conservatism really is as an Eisenhower Republican.

I have always said I am an Eisenhower Republican

I like Rachel very much...she is cute

Then how could you possibly rally around the Geithner/Bernanke/Obama shut down of the state of California?

We (the 37 million of us that live in California) could have used that 20 billion dollar loan that Schwartzennegger asked Geithner for. But the man that Obama works for said "No!" to it. Then he went on to explain that he felt it would hurt the nation's efforts to curb its deficits.

So right now, my school district is operating with 60% of the budget that was available to it in 2009-2010.

in foreign policy and that he carried spying to an extreme. Interesting book on this is
Ike's Spies. It describes how espionage and intelligence helped us win WWII and then the way that the intelligence community gradually became more and more dominant in the US during the Eisnehower era.

Hate to be a spoilsport, but . . . Eisnhower's administration was perhaps understandably rather paranoid.

and change USA's motto from 'e pluribus unum' (which would incld Jews, Catholics & atheists) to 'In God we trust.'

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