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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:25 AM Feb 2015

Poll: 57% Of GOPers Support Making Christianity The National Religion

The poll by the Democratic-leaning firm found that 57 percent of Republicans "support establishing Christianity as the national religion" while 30 percent are opposed. Another 13 percent said they were not sure.

It almost goes without saying that the Establishment Clause of the Constitution prohibits establishing of a national religion.

The poll was conducted among 316 Republicans from Feb. 20-22. The margin of error was plus or minus 5.5 percentage points.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/poll-57-percent-republicans-christianity-national-religion
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Poll: 57% Of GOPers Support Making Christianity The National Religion (Original Post) phantom power Feb 2015 OP
About the same percentage of them think Galileo and Copernicus are wrong. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #1
Who thinks up this stupid shit? Xipe Totec Feb 2015 #2
these idiots can't even spell constitution much less define it or know what's in it hobbit709 Feb 2015 #3
I think it's good to know that a huge swath of Americans explicitly want a theocracy. phantom power Feb 2015 #4
I think it's a push poll. These idiots wouldn't even think about it if someone hadn't mentioned it Xipe Totec Feb 2015 #5
I disagree phantom power Feb 2015 #6
It's the latest meme Xipe Totec Feb 2015 #8
I'm afraid you are incorrect. Many Conservative Christians believe that el_bryanto Feb 2015 #10
Tangentially, I don't think it's a push poll. Here's the poll: phantom power Feb 2015 #14
The act of asking the question introduces in and of itself the bias Xipe Totec Feb 2015 #19
But that's not what is demonstrates, it demonstrates that a swath of Republicans don't know the Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #11
I think it'd be illuminating to ask these same people why they *want* a state religion phantom power Feb 2015 #13
they hunger for a new crusade-a holy war with justifiable genocide dembotoz Feb 2015 #7
yep just as bad as isis GummyBearz Feb 2015 #9
Next up: a Constitutional amendment declaring the Constitution an 'f-ing piece of paper' IDemo Feb 2015 #12
So those little constitution books republcans carry in their back pockets don't mean shit. B Calm Feb 2015 #15
aside from the Establishment Clause issues justabob Feb 2015 #16
Okaaay - which version? Kber Feb 2015 #17
And the same group will claim that they support the Constitution. MineralMan Feb 2015 #18
Ironically, having a national religion would make people turn off to religion Yavin4 Feb 2015 #20

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. Who thinks up this stupid shit?
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:29 AM
Feb 2015

If it's prohibited by the constitution, why even ask the question?

Who would want to know?

Why?

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. I think it's a push poll. These idiots wouldn't even think about it if someone hadn't mentioned it
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:36 AM
Feb 2015

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Tardy: I love Alison!

Alison Kaiser: Tardy, how do you feel about ashtrays?

Tardy: ...I love ashtrays!

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
8. It's the latest meme
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:41 AM
Feb 2015

Which means it's being generated by the noise machine.

All-of-a-sudden-and-out-of-the-blue, I'm hearing "The bible is my constitution" everywhere.

Never even heard that phrase before a week ago.

Now, you can even Google articles about it.

It's a campaign.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. I'm afraid you are incorrect. Many Conservative Christians believe that
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:49 AM
Feb 2015

the United States should be a Christian nation, run by the right kind of Christians. That's the thrust of dominionism for example. The theory is that the Founders, as God Fearing Men, assumed that the nation would always be run by God Fearing Men like themselves. Once you elect people who aren't God Fearing Men, the system breaks down (Obviously they don't really know much about how the constitution was written).

It bubbles up into mainstream discussion every so often, but it's been the belief of many Conservative Christians for years now.

Bryant

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
14. Tangentially, I don't think it's a push poll. Here's the poll:
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:38 AM
Feb 2015
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf

The question was:


(Republicans) Would you support or oppose establishing Christianity as the national religion?
Support establishing Christianity as the national religion
Oppose establishing Christianity as the national religion
Not sure


Push polls attempt use biased language or phrasing to indicate some preferred answer. This question is neutral.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
19. The act of asking the question introduces in and of itself the bias
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:40 AM
Feb 2015

Like asking: "Does Obama really love America?"

a).- Yes, Obama loves America
b).- No, Obama does not love America
c).- Not sure

Asking the question plants a doubt in the mind about a topic that would not otherwise have been considered at all.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. But that's not what is demonstrates, it demonstrates that a swath of Republicans don't know the
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:13 AM
Feb 2015

Constitution at all. There are many countries with an established national religion that are not theocracies, such as England, Denmark, Iceland....Church of England, Church of Denmark, Church of Iceland....not just something to put on the letterhead.
The US Constitution forbids the establishment of a national Church or religion.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
13. I think it'd be illuminating to ask these same people why they *want* a state religion
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:26 AM
Feb 2015

I know what I think -- it's because they're theocrats. Why else would a person *want* to establish a state religion, where none currently exists? But maybe they've got some other reason.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
9. yep just as bad as isis
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:44 AM
Feb 2015

The international coalition will start bombing these crusaders soon I hope

justabob

(3,069 posts)
16. aside from the Establishment Clause issues
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:44 AM
Feb 2015

Which brand of Christianity? Methodist, Presby, Baptist, Catholic? Which version of the Bible will we refer to? Has any one of them thought about just how messy such a thing would be?

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
18. And the same group will claim that they support the Constitution.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:37 AM
Feb 2015

They're deliberately ignorant on both counts. Or they're lying. Hard to tell the difference when it comes to Republicans.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
20. Ironically, having a national religion would make people turn off to religion
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:43 AM
Feb 2015

I can't find it, but I've heard a theory that because we never established a national religion that's why we're more religious than other countries. When you combine the church and state, people turn off religion entirely.

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