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Fox News Cant Remember Any Rightwing Terror Attacks. Were Here To Help
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All terrorists are leftwing. That's just a given!
Fox Newss The Five had a little memory problem Monday, accusing the Department of Homeland Security of completely imagining that rightwing extremists pose any threat to U.S. Americans, because as we all know, the only real terrorists are the Islamic ones. Most of the panel dismissed the DHSs recent report on the threat from Sovereign Citizens and other far-right groups as a pathetic attempt to avoid offending Muslims by pretending that anyone else does terrorism in U.S. America.
Greg Gutfeld explained that in looking for possible rightwing extremists, DHS was chasing after nonexistent threats, like maybe armed Lutherans laying siege on a Hot Topic in a mall? I dont think so! (He is the group comedian.) But then Juan Williams lost the script, noting that there were indeed domestic terrorists, too: Oklahoma City? How about the Atlanta Olympic bomber?
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Bolling then challenged Williams to give even a single example from the last seven years of a rightwing or Christian Crusade' terror attack, and Williams replied by citing the 2009 assassination of Dr. George Tiller: I remember a doctor getting shot in his church
An abortion clinic shooting, youre calling that a terrorist attack? Bolling asked.
What would you call it? Williams countered.
A lunatic who murdered someone, Bolling said.
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On the other hand, were pretty confident that Jerad and Amanda Miller, the sovereign citizen loons who murdered two cops and a civilian in Las Vegas, definitely count, what with their anti-tax, neo-Nazi, anti-police background even though Former Stupidest Man On the Internet Jim Hoft figured they were liberals, because Nazis are liberals.
Gee, if only we could find any other examples of Sovereign Citizen types doing terror in the last seven years. Or for that matter, the last year:
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Breaking: 'Sovereign Citizen' Thinks Georgia Courthouse Is Omaha Beach, Attacks Deputy, Dies
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Sovereign Citizen Hero Fails To Spark Revolution By Threatening Babysitter, Setting Fire, Shooting At Cops
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Here Is Possibly (Totally) The 'Sovereign Citizen' Who Shot A BLM Officer And Cop, For Freedom
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Anti-Government Loon Shot Up Austin, Has Nothing To Do With Other Anti-Government Loons
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Race War Roundup: A Children's Treasury Of Loveable Rogues
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Sovereign Citizen Hipster Musicians Hand-Wrote Their License Plate Before It Was Cool
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Tennessee 'Sovereign Citizen' Liberates People From All Their Worthless Federal Money
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Sovereign Citizen Guy Will Protect Us All From The Unending Tyranny Of Traffic Enforcement
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Violent Birther Gun Nut Also Massive Fan of Tranny Porn, Dildos
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Georgia Militia Dudes Arrested Trying To Buy Bombs; Sadly, No Dildos Or Tranny* Porn
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Mind you, theres no connection between any of these events. Totally one-offs. A whole pack of lone wolves. And no, were not saying that plain old vanilla conservatives are terrorists. Just that they seem not to notice any terrorists who dont scream Allahu Akbar.
So, hey, Juan Williams, feel free to copy and paste those onto index cards for the next time the topic comes up. Just cite your sources, OK?
Youre welcome.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/577349/fox-news-cant-remember-any-rightwing-terror-attacks-we-can-help-out-there#9JowYDDP41SxPRVe.99
riqster
(13,986 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Cheney and Rummy are right wingers too.
spanone
(135,873 posts)niyad
(113,552 posts)it is that passes for mental activity in that organization.
rurallib
(62,448 posts)catapulted with the large catapult of cable presence.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Wrestling is a sport. WWE is sports entertainment. The outcome of a WWE wrestling match can be predetermined, just like Fox's "news reporting".
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)blm
(113,091 posts)Police chiefs across the country had to quietly issue guidelines for their officers on anti-government extremists because of behind the scenes backlash from Republican lawmakers who push anti-government as part of their ACT.
It's all one big act to GOP opportunists.
niyad
(113,552 posts)blm
(113,091 posts)And they are electing Republican lawmakers to make it happen sooner rather than later.
An impatient lot, aren't they?
niyad
(113,552 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)There is money to be made in stealing all the things that peaceful and good-hearted people work to build. Easier to tear something down and take the pieces while people are struggling to keep it, or having to scatter. This is the history of every empire on Earth. It is outright theft of treasure, resources, lives and the potential of millions of lives, mainly done with a shell game:
"Look at this shiny thing we hold up for you to see to idolize, you can't get away, we own the media. When we get enough power, we'll turn that off. The talking will over with. See our guns...
Feel the outrage we taught you to feel instead of fighting for what your parents and grandparents worked to give you.
Maybe it was an illusion all along, trust no one you ever knew. Let us teach you a new brand history because we know TheTruth©!"
*Smiles as he leavesTheMark© with nothing, saying to himself, Sucker©!*
They're going for the biggest prize on the planet. The Koch lords have nearly finished their gambit.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)niyad
(113,552 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)tsites
(36 posts)The reporting on this is utterly appalling. "Joe had a hang-up with the I.R.S." - ya don't say! [the]"reason he flew the airplane against that building. Not to kill people, but just to damage the I.R.S." - yeah, flying into building doesn't normally kill people, it usually does no more harm than a strongly worded letter. The main thing I want to put out there is that this is an isolated incident here; there is no cause for alarm - yes this wasn't some foreigner, just a totally reasonable expression of frustration, it could have been anyone.
In a six-page statement signed Joe Stack (1956-2010) and posted on a Web site connected to Mr. Stacks wife, the author singled out the tax agency as a source of suicidal rage, concluding, Well, Mr. Big Brother I.R.S. man, lets try something different, take my pound of flesh and sleep well. to which the reporter then says: "Though profane at points, the statement articulated grievances with specific sections of the tax code, corporations, politicians and a local accountant. It appeared to have been written with some deliberation." meaning clearly he was fully justified, and not some kind of lunatic terrorist.
This is a shock to me that he would do something like this, Mr. Cook said. But you get your anger up, you do it. - in other words, you can't really blame him.
Crap
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Pretty disgusting.
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I particularly like this one:
I picture his wife standing there trying to talk this lunatic down and finally having to shoot him in the face.
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)FOX is intellectually bankrupt and dishonest, and its unwitting viewers are putty in the hands of the ideological extremists and right-wing kooks who own, operate, and staff that sad-assed excuse for a "news" network. FOX itself is a terrorist organization.
randr
(12,414 posts)not as a terrorist attack but as a terrorist occupation
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)if en this was 'Black Panthers' they'd be 'droned to death' by now.
Then there's this little fella:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-pennsylvania-state-police-suspect-identified-20140916-story.html
(must be an Independent , or dependent- lives with parents.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)He raved on and on about the abortion doctor, accused him of killing babies. Then he gave out the man's address. When a nutcase shot the doctor, O'Lielly would not take any responsibility for the death.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Heads=We lie
Tails=We don't tell the truth.
herding cats
(19,567 posts)Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City
At 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, a 7,000-pound truck bomb, constructed of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and nitromethane racing fuel and packed into 13 plastic barrels, ripped through the heart of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The explosion wrecked much of downtown Oklahoma City and killed 168 people, including 19 children in a day-care center. Another 500 were injured. Although many Americans initially suspected an attack by Middle Eastern radicals, it quickly became clear that the mass murder had actually been carried out by domestic, right-wing terrorists.
The slaughter engineered by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, men steeped in the conspiracy theories and white-hot fury of the American radical right, marked the opening shot in a new kind of domestic political extremism a revolutionary ideology whose practitioners do not hesitate to carry out attacks directed at entirely innocent victims, people selected essentially at random to make a political point. After Oklahoma, it was no longer sufficient for many American right-wing terrorists to strike at a target of political significance instead, they reached for higher and higher body counts, reasoning that they had to eclipse McVeigh's attack to win attention.
What follows is a detailed listing of major terrorist plots and racist rampages that have emerged from the American radical right in the years since Oklahoma City. These have included plans to bomb government buildings, banks, refineries, utilities, clinics, synagogues, mosques, memorials and bridges; to assassinate police officers, judges, politicians, civil rights figures and others; to rob banks, armored cars and other criminals; and to amass illegal machine guns, missiles, explosives and biological and chemical weapons. [Each of these plots aimed to make changes in America through the use of political violence.] Most contemplated the deaths of large numbers of people in one case, as many as 30,000, or 10 times the number murdered on Sept. 11, 2001.
Here are the stories of plots, conspiracies and racist rampages since 1995 plots and violence waged against a democratic America.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right
There's way more than the few incidents reported above, at a glance I'd say over 100 since 1995 alone.
Whiskeytide
(4,462 posts)... Eric Rudolph's clinic bombing in 1998?
Roeder's shooting of Dr. Tiller a few years back?
Michael Griffith shot Dr. Gunn in the mid 90s, I think?
And some Fla. preacher killed a Dr. and a clinic escort in the 90s?
Don't those count?
I'm sure there's a dozen more I can't recall off the top of my head.
I remember the media coining the phrase "Christian Terrorists" way back then, right? .... ummm ...right? Seems like I was outraged or something when Dubyah would never use that term, too.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)what about the loon that shot Gabby Giffords? Spurred on by another Loon by the name of Palin.
Remember the crosshairs? How many others were shot that day? I don't really feel like the google today...
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)A man accused of fatally shooting two adults and wounding seven others at a Knoxville church told police the church's liberal teachings prompted him to attack, according to court papers.
According to the affidavit requesting to search Adkisson's home, the suspect told investigators liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country. Adkisson also blamed Democrats for the country's decline, according to the affidavit.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/28/church.shooting/index.html?iref=hpmostpop
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/knoxville-church-shooters-manifesto
That suspicion that was verified in the days that followed, when police searched Adkisson's apartment and found it filled with books and newsletters penned by Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and other right-wing hate talkers.
According to his manifesto: "Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book."
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)"liberals should be killed", Fox can't remember their culpability in inciting terrorists.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)vssmith
(1,224 posts)was a Radical Christian terrorist group.
Same with the Nazi Party
lame54
(35,321 posts)Initech
(100,102 posts)After mind was rotted by too much AM anti government hate radio. Did they forget about that one?
libodem
(19,288 posts)To protest his taxes. Right wing nut job.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)if you want to read about a right wing group of self-described Christian fundamentalists who have been committing terrorist attacks against womens' health centers all over the country for a long time.
Then google KKK and reads about the Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan to read about another group of right wing terrorists.
Trying to help here.
niyad
(113,552 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)there are in fact right-wing domestic terrorists, and terrorism in the USA is much more likely to be executed by members of the extremist right than it is by Muslims.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)AND THEIR FAMILIES, to the point of stalking children going to and from school.
How is this not terrorism in every sense of the word? The perps have networks, they know each other and protect each other, visit their "heroes" in prison.
Every single one of these terrorists has been white and called himself/herself a Christian doing God's Will.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)No one was killed, but right wing morons were able to aim assault weapons at federal agents and did it with impunity.
We are very lucky no one was killed. It wouldn't have taken much for that situation to escalate in a second Waco.
Of course, I don't suppose Mr. Hannity would have felt too comfortable having someone at FoxNews suggest that the people he was hyping for a week or so last Spring were terrorists.
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Bolling then challenged Williams to give even a single example from the last seven years of a rightwing or Christian Crusade' terror attack, and Williams replied by citing the 2009 assassination of Dr. George Tiller: I remember a doctor getting shot in his church
An abortion clinic shooting, youre calling that a terrorist attack? Bolling asked.
What would you call it? Williams countered.
A lunatic who murdered someone, Bolling said.
I'd like to hear what Bolling would if a suicide bomber were called A lunatic who murdered someone."
Fox is the still the outfit than insisting calling terrorists "homicide bombers."
freshwest
(53,661 posts)An old, but not that old example, of rightwing terrorism in the USA below.
It was non-stop terrorism, so Fox, the mouthpiece of the GOP plantation mentality, see it as the normal state of mankind, not terrorism.
See how that works for them?
About the 1963 Birmingham Bombing
On Sunday, 15th September, 1963, a white man was seen getting out of a white and turquoise Chevrolet car and placing a box under the steps of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church. Soon afterwards, at 10.22 a.m., the bomb exploded killing Denise McNair (11), Addie Mae Collins (14), Carole Robertson (14) and Cynthia Wesley (14). The four girls had been attending Sunday school classes at the church. Twenty-three other people were also hurt by the blast.
Civil rights activists blamed George Wallace, the Governor of Alabama, for the killings. Only a week before the bombing he had told the New York Times that to stop integration Alabama needed a "few first-class funerals."
Well, he sure got his wish, didn't he?
A witness identified Robert Chambliss, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, as the man who placed the bomb under the steps of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church. He was arrested and charged with murder and possessing a box of 122 sticks of dynamite without a permit. On 8th October, 1963, Chambliss was found not guilty of murder and received a hundred-dollar fine and a six-month jail sentence for having the dynamite.
The case was unsolved until Bill Baxley was elected attorney general of Alabama. He requested the original Federal Bureau of Investigation files on the case and discovered that the organization had accumulated a great deal of evidence against Chambliss that had not been used in the original trial.
In November, 1977 Chambliss was tried once again for the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing. Now aged 73, Chambliss was found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment. Chambliss died in an Alabama prison on 29th October, 1985...
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/m_r/randall/birmingham.htm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026271843#post33
BTW, love those cats at the Wonkette!
wiggs
(7,817 posts)Bush tried him as a domestic terrorist. He got 20 or 25 years....
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)those Islamic extremists they babble about 24 hours day ain't raging liberals.
They are far right CONSERVATIVE ...
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Alleged Pennsylvania cop killer Eric Frein was charged with two additional counts of terrorism after investigators found a letter to his parents declaring that only "another revolution can get us back to the liberties we once had."
Frein, 31, is charged with murdering state police Cpl. Bryon Dickson and wounding Trooper Alex Douglass in a Sept. 12 ambush on a Pennsylvania State Police barracks. A preliminary hearing had originally been scheduled for Dec. 9, but the new counts were entered Thursday in an unexpected hearing in Pike County Magisterial District Court.
The new charges terrorism to influence the policy of government by intimidation or coercion and terrorism to affect the conduct of a government carry maximum sentences of 40 years in prison.
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The letter's writer goes on to complain: "There is so much wrong and on so many levels [that] only passing through the crucible for another revolution can get us back to the liberties we once had. I do not pretend to know what the revolution will look like or even if it would be successful.
"http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/terrorism-added-charges-against-alleged-cop-killer-eric-frein-n248071
niyad
(113,552 posts)faux snooze, but it would be ignored.
salin
(48,955 posts)circa 2010 the Hutaree Militia
niyad
(113,552 posts)a sane judge letting them go, saying there was no evidence they were a threat.
salin
(48,955 posts)Went back and read up on them. Another example of apacolyptic thinking leading to planning extreme acts.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)If you watch Fox News, you will get the impression that every Muslim with a gun or a bomb has an agenda and is part of a shadowy organization, while every white man with the same is just some lone nut. If people are going to attribute 'terrorism' to traits and ideology for groups they don't like, but then turn around and look for external or mitigating circumstances such as mental illness just as Eric Bolling did for things he can't or doesn't want to pin on anyone, then using 'terrorism' does not serve the public interest, but rather a very narrow and dogmatic one.