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babylonsister

(171,099 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 05:33 PM Feb 2015

Comcast Now Says It Will Not Sue FCC




http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/26/comcast-we-will-sue-to-slow-the-web.html

Comcast Now Says It Will Not Sue FCC


The company says the FCC overreached by passing rules to stop Internet service providers from blocking sites and slowing traffic. The problem is, Comcast’s admitted to doing just that.

Despite tens of millions of corporate dollars in last-minute lobbying, the Federal Communications Commission passed new rules Thursday reclassifying the Internet as a public utility and preventing Internet service providers from artificially slowing down the Web.

Now Comcast is calling “inevitable” lawsuits to nullify the rules a “certainty,” and the company says it will pressure legislators to draft a law that will override the FCC’s decision.

snip//


Update – 2/27/2015, 11:30 a.m.: Comcast Vice President of Government Communications Sena Fitzmaurice sought to clarify that the company will not sue the FCC, despite a statement from the company’s Executive Vice President David L. Cohen yesterday saying “the only ‘certainty’ in the Open Internet Space is that we all face inevitable litigation.”

“AT&T and Verizon have publicly, vocally said they will sue. Comcast has not,” she said. “We haven’t seen the order, we don’t know what is in it – our reference to inevitable regulation is related to the very direct statements by others they will sue – not that we will.”

When asked to clarify if “when Cohen refers to ‘we all,’ he is not referring to Comcast or a trade organization of which Comcast is a part,” Fitzmaurice said:

“Comcast has not said it will sue… {He} means all players in the marketplace.”

Asked if “’we’ in this instance {as stated in yesterday’s press release} does not mean ‘ourselves and others,’ as in the dictionary definition,” Fitzmaurice responded, “Comcast will not sue. Full stop.”

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Comcast Now Says It Will Not Sue FCC (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2015 OP
cheaper to let Verizon and AT&T sue marym625 Feb 2015 #1
The key point "We haven’t seen the order, we don’t know what is in it" PoliticAverse Feb 2015 #2
I find this to be problematic Wella Feb 2015 #3
I think that would actually be great. dilby Feb 2015 #4
What in the world? Egnever Feb 2015 #8
ok start with illegal content. dilby Feb 2015 #9
Um isn't illegal content already illegal? Egnever Feb 2015 #10
If you are required to have a license then you are easier to track down. dilby Feb 2015 #11
Domains already have to be registered Egnever Feb 2015 #12
domain names are not currently regulated by the federal government. dilby Feb 2015 #13
I always think that stuff like this doesn't really exist... Oktober Mar 2015 #19
The Internet is a public utility and should be regulated like one. dilby Mar 2015 #20
Who are you forced to do business with that you don't feel is trustworthy? Oktober Mar 2015 #21
Why do you feel the need to be anonymous on the internet? dilby Mar 2015 #22
The creeped out meter just bumped up a notch... Oktober Mar 2015 #23
Sigh how many times does it have to be said Egnever Feb 2015 #7
300 pages of regulation that no one has seen Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #5
Apparently it's about 38 pages of actual regulation with the rest being comments PoliticAverse Feb 2015 #6
No. Its probably around 8 pages of regs, several hundred pages of an "order" onenote Mar 2015 #15
This "no one has seen the 300 pages" is a GOP meme that is total BS winstars Mar 2015 #17
both long and secret are problems Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #18
All I know is, watch them/I don't trust them, ever. nt babylonsister Mar 2015 #14
The good news is . . . gratuitous Mar 2015 #16
That is probably for the best, Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2015 #24
 

Wella

(1,827 posts)
3. I find this to be problematic
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:30 PM
Feb 2015

Apparently a certain talk radio gasbag was telling everyone that in order to have a webpage, we will now all be required to have licenses.

When a government agency deliberately hides its major regulatory changes, all kinds of gossip gets out there.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
4. I think that would actually be great.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:43 PM
Feb 2015

I would totally support the requirement of a license to operate a website, I personally would only make it mandatory for sites that generate revenue. But would have no issue if they made it mandatory for all sites. It's about time we start to regulate the garbage going on the internet.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
9. ok start with illegal content.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:02 PM
Feb 2015

Then move over to bullshit products and bullshit medicines. If they have figured out how to regulate what is broadcast on television and radio they can certainly do the same for the internet.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
12. Domains already have to be registered
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:12 PM
Feb 2015

With contact info to be able to track down the owner.

For example here is the registration info for DU


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dilby

(2,273 posts)
13. domain names are not currently regulated by the federal government.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:32 PM
Feb 2015

Possessing a domain name does not mean you actually have a website. Furthermore you can have someone else register a site for you or use false information. Requiring a federally regulated license is the way to go and should be required by any website that generates revenue. Whether through sales, advertisement, donations, whatever the case if you are making money it should be regulated and taxed.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
19. I always think that stuff like this doesn't really exist...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:53 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:27 AM - Edit history (1)

... and then I'm disappointed to be proven wrong.

One last little spot of freedom and creativity... Can't have that...

dilby

(2,273 posts)
20. The Internet is a public utility and should be regulated like one.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:46 AM
Mar 2015

Regulations do not just mean ensuring the public has access to the utility but that they are also safe from it. Imagine what our country would be like if the Government did not put safety standards on water, gas and electric. Licensing will be necessary to better regulate the internet, today the internet is the wild west where everything is out there and everything goes. Licensing would help to make sure people can feel safe when doing business with an online company and also reduce the fraud and illegal activities that are currently taking place.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
21. Who are you forced to do business with that you don't feel is trustworthy?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:01 AM
Mar 2015

How would you suggest that a person maintain their anonymity, which is a cornerstone of the internet, and still fall under your licensing scheme?

What about the obvious fact that the internet is international?

This is why we can't have nice things....

dilby

(2,273 posts)
22. Why do you feel the need to be anonymous on the internet?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:09 AM
Mar 2015

I am not saying you need a license to browse the net, just one so that your site can be browsed. And there are plenty of sketchy ass miracle cure product websites hawking their snake oil to the public. Just like a business license, if your website license is revoked you are done hawking your shit online.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
23. The creeped out meter just bumped up a notch...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:23 AM
Mar 2015

It's for the same reason that your user name isn't your real first and last name and posted with your address...

It isn't anyone's business..

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
7. Sigh how many times does it have to be said
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:51 PM
Feb 2015

They are not hiding anything. They are following standard procedures for publishing new rules. The full package will be released in a couple of weeks when they are done with all the formalities.

Everything is not a conspiracy.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
5. 300 pages of regulation that no one has seen
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:48 PM
Feb 2015

Anyone want to bet that at least a few of those pages were written by Comcast lobbyists? Comcast must necessarily think the regs are going to increase their profits, or they would be obligated by duty to shareholders to sue.

onenote

(42,778 posts)
15. No. Its probably around 8 pages of regs, several hundred pages of an "order"
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:33 AM
Mar 2015

that describes the legal and factual issues raised by the proposal to adopt network neutrality rules, reviews the comments received on all sides of the issues, describes the rules adopted, fulfills statutory requirements to analyze the impact of the rules on small businesses and under the Paperwork Reduction Act (among others). In all likelihood, the number of pages devoted to simply listing the commenters and reply commenters will be longer than the number of pages of actual rules.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6287824


In addition, according to the folks I've spoken to about it at the FCC, it will be about two weeks before the rules are published, which is not unusual where there is a divided vote.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
17. This "no one has seen the 300 pages" is a GOP meme that is total BS
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:01 AM
Mar 2015

Apparently the FCC and many other agencies ALWAYS publish the actual regs several AFTER they vote. One thing they still are waiting for are the comments from the 2 pug commissioners to possibly add to the regs.

The day of the vote, I must have read this "secret regs" and the "300 pages" meme in every third or fourth comment on many websites, all using the exact same language basically. I figured that Faux and Rushbo were screaming these words to the masses.

Its "the ACA 2000 pages" BS all over again. Apparently anything long is very very bad. A paragraph should do, why all of those WORDS.... They use this all the time now.

Stupid is good, smart is very very bad and probably progressive.

Home school good, university very bad. Harvard, freaking Harvard bad, Liberty U very good...


It all will be out shortly and then we all will know whats actually in the new regs.


Please OP, I am not attacking you for your post, I just think that the above is accurate.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
18. both long and secret are problems
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:44 AM
Mar 2015

secret is a problem because it is inherently anti-democratic

long is a problem because "the devil is in the details" as they say - much easier to hide corruption in a long document than a short one, and this country has a five-alarm corruption issue

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. The good news is . . .
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:46 AM
Mar 2015

The good news is that if the FCC promulgates a regulation the public doesn't like, we the people have recourses to get it changed. If Comcast or Verizon or some other internet provider promulgates a rule the public doesn't like and it makes a boatload of money for the provider, the public can just lump it.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
24. That is probably for the best,
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:03 AM
Mar 2015

Since their court filings would probably refer to the FCC Chairman as Cockbag Wheeler.

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