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I saw a black person in the crowd at CPAC (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 OP
Allen West? He's working for the Koch Brothers in Texas, these days. nt MADem Feb 2015 #1
Greenwald is working with him next month.....tix are available. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #61
Hi Herman treestar Feb 2015 #2
I miss Herman Cain. Scootaloo Feb 2015 #7
If u miss him listen to his daily radio show ErikJ Feb 2015 #16
I don't miss him that much Scootaloo Feb 2015 #19
I remembered that bvf Feb 2015 #18
Do you remember these treasures? Scootaloo Feb 2015 #22
Best shit ever!nt bravenak Feb 2015 #27
Yes indeed. bvf Mar 2015 #65
I too miss Mr.999, 4 eyed Herman Cain c588415 Feb 2015 #25
Ben Carson's handler? TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #3
Token "blah" person. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #4
DUzy sakabatou Feb 2015 #21
are you sure it was not Piush Jindal guillaumeb Feb 2015 #5
Y'know, if the dude goes by "Bobby," call him Bobby Scootaloo Feb 2015 #20
Unless you have proof that Piyush Jindal has legally changed his name to Bobby, android fan Feb 2015 #23
Cassius Clay never legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali Scootaloo Feb 2015 #28
He has no right to be called Bobby. android fan Feb 2015 #30
Are you fucking kidding me? Scootaloo Feb 2015 #31
Why? Because calling him by his legal name is racist? android fan Feb 2015 #32
When he doesn't go by it and you're only doing it to try to insult him, yes Scootaloo Feb 2015 #34
I agree that Jindal has a lot of issues android fan Feb 2015 #37
There, see, go with that Scootaloo Feb 2015 #39
Yeah, sometimes you gotta rise above it.. android fan Mar 2015 #44
Juat an aside: graegoyle Mar 2015 #45
I work with a guy who does that Scootaloo Mar 2015 #52
That's ridiculous. It's a nickname and what he's known by... Hekate Feb 2015 #35
You know, just because he is a goddamn republican it does not make what you say CBGLuthier Mar 2015 #58
but did he change his name guillaumeb Feb 2015 #29
Apparently because he likes the Brady Bunch Scootaloo Feb 2015 #33
it's not really the same thing at all, Jindal wanting to be White and ashamed of people of color is JI7 Mar 2015 #49
That's a problem for him to deal with Scootaloo Mar 2015 #50
he is shaming himself JI7 Mar 2015 #53
Then let him do so. As I said, it's his problem Scootaloo Mar 2015 #55
no, jindal is the one who complains about hyphenated americans but only if they are of color JI7 Mar 2015 #56
Must have been a waiter. Or a crazy person. nt valerief Feb 2015 #6
Cali_Democrat, black people can be Republican. Gosh. Scootaloo Feb 2015 #8
Good gawd. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #9
You can't be a forward thinking Republican Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #12
oh. ok. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #13
and cpac isn't just republican party overall but the worst of them JI7 Feb 2015 #17
The folks Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #36
I work with a guy: graegoyle Mar 2015 #46
My only guess Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #48
Really? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #26
Amy Holmes Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #43
Anyone who works for Glenn Beck should not be considered "forward thinking" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2015 #66
Ah, the forward thinking mindset that includes... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #67
michael steele nt hopemountain Mar 2015 #51
Back when DU gave a shit about such things... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #68
to which micahel steele are you referring???? hopemountain Mar 2015 #69
Oh hush now. Just because the OP is rooted in racism, there's no reason to call it out as such. CBGLuthier Mar 2015 #59
"rooted in racism"? I never said that. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #64
According to the mass media it was an "interesting confab giving the GOP a wide choice of candidate" Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #10
ben carson spanone Feb 2015 #11
I thought you were gonna say he was a delegate but all the GOP women kept trying to give him their OregonBlue Feb 2015 #14
C'mon, Repubs always get a great reaction from blacks, like when Rmoney spoke to the NAACP in '12 .. Scuba Feb 2015 #15
Is that pic for real? It is WONDERFUL. Hekate Feb 2015 #38
Yep, it's real. Scuba Feb 2015 #40
I always love those ladies BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #60
At least to me, this is the quintessential pic of the 2012 campaign. Scuba Mar 2015 #62
The Black man might have been "Uncle Rukus" from the tv show, c588415 Feb 2015 #24
There is always Rep. Mia Love. On stage. kwassa Feb 2015 #41
Ignorant, frightened and angry white people Warpy Feb 2015 #42
So I wonder why Jamilla Bey, an African-American atheist blogger, was invited to speak? alp227 Mar 2015 #47
"As conservatives, we have always been a family ...." she says in this clip. kwassa Mar 2015 #54
I'll never understand romanic Mar 2015 #57
You should had posted this under the strange stories/ufo's thread. B Calm Mar 2015 #63
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. I miss Herman Cain.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:58 PM
Feb 2015

I mean say what you want, but the man had like an endless well of entertainment value.

I'm certain Rachel Maddow was 100% correct. his campaign was performance art. And it was glorious, in a "Directed by John Waters" kind of way.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
16. If u miss him listen to his daily radio show
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:07 PM
Feb 2015

He's on 2 AM stations simultaneously in my city! But not a single prog radio show on AM here any more.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
18. I remembered that
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:24 PM
Feb 2015

but forgot it was about Cain.

Did anyone ever point out that "999" is the number of the beast stood on its head?

You're right: the guy was definitely entertaining in a Serial Mom kind of way. Wouldn't go so far as Pink Flamingos, but that's just me.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
20. Y'know, if the dude goes by "Bobby," call him Bobby
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:34 PM
Feb 2015

Insisting on "Piyush" is really no different from how Republicans call the president "Barry" or "Barack HUSSEIN Obama." Or how some posters here insisted on calling Chelsea Manning "he."

You don't have to like the guy - and there are few politicians who are less likeable - but c'mon, let's keep some decorum on our side.

 

android fan

(214 posts)
23. Unless you have proof that Piyush Jindal has legally changed his name to Bobby,
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:43 PM
Feb 2015

otherwise, no.

He deserves to be called Piyush, and he's a big hypocrite to the nth order.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. Cassius Clay never legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:05 PM
Feb 2015

Thus why his trial over draft evaion is Clay v. united States, and not Ali vs. united States. I still call the man Muhammad Ali, don't you?

Piyush Jindal wants to go by Bobby, I'll call him Bobby. it's a very basic courtesy and it doesn't hurt to extend it even to people you detest.

 

android fan

(214 posts)
30. He has no right to be called Bobby.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:19 PM
Feb 2015

I know many Bobby's and Piyush is no Bobby.

Do you even know where he got his Bobby nickname? He was a fan of the Brady Bunch.

It shows major disrespect to Robert F. Kennedy.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
31. Are you fucking kidding me?
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:23 PM
Feb 2015

Seriously your argument is disjointed to the point of senselessness.

What you're doing is trying to use his ancestry to shame him. It's fucking racist and you need to stop. I don't care if he's ashamed of it or not, you should be above it as a progressive.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
34. When he doesn't go by it and you're only doing it to try to insult him, yes
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:31 PM
Feb 2015

As I said, not any different from the right's insistence on using the "Hussein" in President Obama's name. He doesn't call himself "Barack Hussein," he calls himself "Barack." And if he wanted to be called "Barry" as he did when he was a younger man, then that's what he should be called. He doesn't, so people who insist on doing so are being disrespectful. Same with my other example. Chelsea Manning was born Bradley Manning, her chomosomes are (as far as we know) XY, and last i'd heard, was just beginning her transition. To refer to Chelsea Manning as "Bradley" or as "he" is disrespectful and denigrating.

You want to shit on Bobby Jindal, god knows he's given you plenty of ammo in his positions, policies, and statements. His name is not a valid issue. Just because he's ashamed of his heritage is no reason for you to try to use his heritage to shame him.

 

android fan

(214 posts)
37. I agree that Jindal has a lot of issues
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:43 PM
Feb 2015

besides his name....

Gotta love the fact that he is over a billion in debt for Louisiana...

 

android fan

(214 posts)
44. Yeah, sometimes you gotta rise above it..
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:12 AM
Mar 2015

But he'll always be Piyush to me, but will call him Jindal to end all arguments.

graegoyle

(532 posts)
45. Juat an aside:
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:03 AM
Mar 2015

I tell people to use a shortening if my full Spanish name because I hate when people butcher my full name because they can't say three simple English words.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
52. I work with a guy who does that
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:52 AM
Mar 2015

For all the Spanish-speakers in the plant, he's Rodolfo. For the English-speakers, he's Rudy. He says call him Rudy, I call the guy Rudy, even though I have no problem saying "Rodolfo".

Hekate

(90,865 posts)
35. That's ridiculous. It's a nickname and what he's known by...
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:41 PM
Feb 2015

His grade school friends could have named him Bobby, or his kindergarten teacher, but the Brady Bunch works too. When a kid's first name makes him stand out in a way that causes snickers from other kids, a nickname is a wise choice.

I had a high school boyfriend whose first name was "Roosevelt, but my friends call me Mike."

Making a stink about it is as silly as birthers referring to the President as "Barry," which is a childhood nickname he dropped in his college years.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
58. You know, just because he is a goddamn republican it does not make what you say
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:14 AM
Mar 2015

any less racist as fuck.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. Apparently because he likes the Brady Bunch
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:27 PM
Feb 2015
It's silly, but whatever. I knew a guy who insisted on being called Hawk, 'cause he liked hawks. So everyone called him hawk. even his parents called him Hawk. I'm best friends with a lady who calls herself "Dawn" after a fairly ridiculous comic book character. Whatever, she wants to be called Dawn, I call her Dawn.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
49. it's not really the same thing at all, Jindal wanting to be White and ashamed of people of color is
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:45 AM
Mar 2015

not the same thing as the ones you mention.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
50. That's a problem for him to deal with
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:49 AM
Mar 2015

Just because he is ashamed of his heritage, does not give you the right to use his heritage to try to shame him.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
55. Then let him do so. As I said, it's his problem
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:14 AM
Mar 2015

If he's ashamed of his Indian heritage, that is his problem, and perhaps his family's. No one else's. If he is, I see it as pretty damn sad, but not something to be used as a weapon against him for political points. When you use his given name to try to shame him, all you're doing is saying that he's right, it's shameful to be Indian-American. It doesn't help anything. it affirms his self-hate, it makes you look like a bigoted jerk, and it puts off a lot of other people.

If it's really impossible for you to call him by hte name he wants people to call him by, then maybe just stick with "Jindal."

JI7

(89,279 posts)
56. no, jindal is the one who complains about hyphenated americans but only if they are of color
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:35 AM
Mar 2015

lets see him object to those who are proud of being irish american or italian american . lets see him oppose parades/festivals etc for those groups.

and i'm of the same background as jindal . i don't say the same about nikki haley because she isn't trying to pass herself off as white while going after anyone of color the way jindal does.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
9. Good gawd.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:31 PM
Feb 2015

There are some really intelligent, forward thinking African-Americans who are Republicans. People with good minds but a different outlook.

There are times when the arrogance of the Democrats when it comes to our claims on various groups can be truly nauseating.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. You can't be a forward thinking Republican
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:45 PM
Feb 2015

That's an oxymoron.

BTW, I am African-American. The point of my post was not to claim various groups for the Democratic Party.

The point of my post was to highlight the fact that Republicans are so incredibly racist that blacks have been driven away almost entirely.

Whether it's gun control or opposition to the ACA....Republican racism drives much of their opposition to sensible positions.

This country is 67% white, yet the conferences are made up entirely of white people.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
36. The folks
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:41 PM
Feb 2015

who come somewhat close to forward-thinking on the R side are probably the "moderates", like Jon Huntsman (who believes in science) and this guy who I have a POSCI class with. My Republican classmate actually seems smart and level-headed when it comes to class discussions, and he said he preferred Huntsman over people like Carnival Cruz. My classmate appears to know a lot about what is going on with issues like the environment and voting rights, so it's baffling to hear him once say that he's a Republican.

graegoyle

(532 posts)
46. I work with a guy:
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:08 AM
Mar 2015

Says good things about unions, shares my criticisms of corporate management and said to me (a black man), "I don't understand why black people vote for Democrats."

The guy says he votes Republican.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
48. My only guess
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:41 AM
Mar 2015

why your co-worker is Republican might be because he's one of those people who are paranoid about all guns being banned, the so-called "baby-killers" of the Left, or maybe even "the Gay Agenda". Issues like those might be more important to him than union rights and corporate management.
On a side note, it always makes me sick seeing that line where they tell us that we should vote Republican. They usually make some tired case based on how the parties used to be decades ago, always ignoring the shift on the spectrum between them in the mid-20th century.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
26. Really?
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:47 PM
Feb 2015

Name one. Because the Black Republicans are usually desperate to prove they are "a good 'un" and therefore more insane than the rankin file.

Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, Allen West, Ben Carson....

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
66. Anyone who works for Glenn Beck should not be considered "forward thinking"
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:17 AM
Mar 2015

Sorry.

I await your one line "oh, ok" sarcasm.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
68. Back when DU gave a shit about such things...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:49 AM
Mar 2015

... that comment would have earned you a vacation.

DU needs the traffic, so homophobia is given a wink.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
69. to which micahel steele are you referring????
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:45 PM
Mar 2015

sheesh, i refer to michael steele a former head of the republican party.
that's pretty low to accuse me of such. just shows me more about you.

he appears on chris matthews msnbc all of the time.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
59. Oh hush now. Just because the OP is rooted in racism, there's no reason to call it out as such.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:15 AM
Mar 2015

Just kidding. plus like, a million.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. According to the mass media it was an "interesting confab giving the GOP a wide choice of candidate"
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:36 PM
Feb 2015

Washinton Post: not making that up.

OregonBlue

(7,755 posts)
14. I thought you were gonna say he was a delegate but all the GOP women kept trying to give him their
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:50 PM
Feb 2015

drink orders.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
15. C'mon, Repubs always get a great reaction from blacks, like when Rmoney spoke to the NAACP in '12 ..
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:54 PM
Feb 2015

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
41. There is always Rep. Mia Love. On stage.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:00 PM
Feb 2015

and the guy on the far left, though not politically, is Raffi Williams, son of Juan Williams.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
42. Ignorant, frightened and angry white people
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:20 PM
Feb 2015

who want to go back to the segregated 50s when they could easily pretend that nobody else was here.

They're on their way out as the main power bloc in this country and it scares them to death.

alp227

(32,065 posts)
47. So I wonder why Jamilla Bey, an African-American atheist blogger, was invited to speak?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 01:11 AM
Mar 2015

Right wingers know that they've got to act fast, or else the Republican Party loses the PoC and secular vote.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/02/26/jamila-bey-at-cpac/

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
54. "As conservatives, we have always been a family ...." she says in this clip.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:01 AM
Mar 2015

She repeatedly calls herself a conservative.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
57. I'll never understand
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:12 AM
Mar 2015

what would make a black person or a gay person identify as "Republican" but at the same time, I can respect their choice to do so. I surely won't pull out "Uncle Tom" or "Traitor" when I come across a conservative black or gay person. It's just their viewpoint on politics.

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