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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:48 PM Feb 2015

Fox News guest: Obama shouldn’t ban armor-piercing rounds because ‘tiny bullets’ can’t hurt cops




“And to say that this is going to pierce through the armor of cops is ridiculous because it’s a tiny bullet like this big,” she added, demonstrating the size with her fingers. “And to say that the cop’s Kevlar isn’t tough enough to handle that ammunition is ridiculous. And like the FBI said, no one has used this in a handgun to shoot a cop.”



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/fox-news-guest-obama-shouldnt-ban-armor-piercing-rounds-because-tiny-bullets-cant-hurt-cops/

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Fox News guest: Obama shouldn’t ban armor-piercing rounds because ‘tiny bullets’ can’t hurt cops (Original Post) ashling Feb 2015 OP
She puts the moron in moronic. nt valerief Feb 2015 #1
*headdesk* sakabatou Feb 2015 #2
She's as well-informed as most Faux News guests. krispos42 Feb 2015 #3
"This is the size of my Intelligence" BlueJazz Feb 2015 #4
I think there are some dead people who would like a word with her shenmue Feb 2015 #5
I guess Jessie never kicked that caffeine pill habit, after all? Scootaloo Feb 2015 #6
sounds idiotic to me Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #7
When it list's it as hard insert they mean a steel core correct? glasshouses Mar 2015 #12
Here is a cutaway Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #14
Looks more like Politicalboi Feb 2015 #8
Fucking morons Historic NY Mar 2015 #9
WTF lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #10
She sounded stoned glasshouses Mar 2015 #11
"they're just cute little tiny bullets, like toys; they don't hurt anyone" ND-Dem Mar 2015 #13

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
3. She's as well-informed as most Faux News guests.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:59 PM
Feb 2015

The armor on patrol officers is designed to stop handgun bullets, which tend to be wider, shorter, heavier, and slower than rifle bullets.

The "tiny" bullet used in rifles that shoot .223 Remington ammo has nearly three times the energy of a .357 Magnum focused into a much smaller area.

And the .223 is on the low end of the rifle cartridge power spectrum.

I doubt that patrol body armor would stop an expanding bullet, much less a non-expanding bullet like regular full-metal-jacket or the "armor piercing" M855 bullet.

If you want to stop rifle bullets you need what the army uses.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
7. sounds idiotic to me
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:11 PM
Feb 2015

They are small rounds and any rifle round will pierce most bullet resistant vests, armor piercing or not. The rounds in question do not meet the ATF regulations as armor piercing as most of the actual bullet is lead. A regular 55 grain full metal jacket is just as if not more dangerous as they are more accurate and cheaper. Any round can be dangerous, pistol or rifle.

The ones in question are 5.56X45

 

glasshouses

(484 posts)
12. When it list's it as hard insert they mean a steel core correct?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:15 AM
Mar 2015

Is it steel incased in copper or is the painted tip steel?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
14. Here is a cutaway
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 06:08 AM
Mar 2015


it is the one on the left.The top half of the grey is steel, the bottom half is lead. It is all covered in a copper jacket. The one on the right is the new A1 round that is replacing the M855 round. It is the so-called green round as the lead is gone and has been replaced by copper. Both of these rounds do not meet the definition of armor piercing by ATF regulations.

lpbk2713

(42,769 posts)
10. WTF
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:10 AM
Mar 2015



I really can't see why anyone would speak in favor of armor piercing rounds. I just don't get it.


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