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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 11:34 AM Mar 2015

Google wants to rank websites based on facts not links

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530102.600-google-wants-to-rank-websites-based-on-facts-not-links.html?full=true&print=true#.VPMwwfnF9vV

THE internet is stuffed with garbage. Anti-vaccination websites make the front page of Google, and fact-free "news" stories spread like wildfire. Google has devised a fix – rank websites according to their truthfulness.

Google's search engine currently uses the number of incoming links to a web page as a proxy for quality, determining where it appears in search results. So pages that many other sites link to are ranked higher. This system has brought us the search engine as we know it today, but the downside is that websites full of misinformation can rise up the rankings, if enough people link to them.

A Google research team is adapting that model to measure the trustworthiness of a page, rather than its reputation across the web. Instead of counting incoming links, the system – which is not yet live – counts the number of incorrect facts within a page. "A source that has few false facts is considered to be trustworthy," says the team The score they compute for each page is its Knowledge-Based Trust score.

The software works by tapping into the Knowledge Vault, the vast store of facts that Google has pulled off the internet. Facts the web unanimously agrees on are considered a reasonable proxy for truth. Web pages that contain contradictory information are bumped down the rankings.



This is kind of cool and a great example of leveraging big data combined with complex algorithms. Of course the first question is how well the "Knowledge Vault" works.

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enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
3. Very interesting,
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:01 PM
Mar 2015

though the "the vast store of facts that Google has pulled off the internet. Facts the web unanimously agrees on are considered a reasonable proxy for truth" seems less than reliable.

If "unanimously agrees" (really? They get unanimous agreement on more than 'the sun rises in the east'?) translates to tested/verified/sourced/peer reviewed then they might have something going for them. If it translates to "wikipedia", they can keep it.


surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
4. I'm somewhat surprised there are "facts the web unanimously agrees on".
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:04 PM
Mar 2015

I wouldn't expect anything to be unanimous. When anything can be posted, everything get disputed.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
5. Sounds alright if it's actually based on truth, and not "corporate truth."
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:08 PM
Mar 2015

I'm not sure how they prevent the knowledge vault from being gamed by corporations saturating the internet with "selected" facts.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
6. Google rankings are complex, to say the least.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:10 PM
Mar 2015

Since working to get sites to the top of rankings is a big part of what I do, I've been studying search engines since they first appeared. While links are one factor, Google has focused on relevance and quality of content for a long time, now. How they measure those things is a trade secret, but can be deduced by seeing what gets top rankings over the long-term.

This new ranking method will just become part of their overall method, just like all the others are.

For my end of the deal, since I deal with businesses that sell goods and services, the information on the pages I write is always accurate, so this won't matter to my clients. Many other factors do, though. It's an always-changing thing. So far, I and the web designer and SEO person I work with are doing remarkably well in figuring out how Google ranks websites. But that's a trade secret, too.

Bottom line: There are no tricks that get good rankings. Quality gets good rankings, however Google is measuring it.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
7. A single point of knowledge runs counter to the construct of the Internet.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:18 PM
Mar 2015

If I recall correctly, a single point of anything is inherently subject to abuse. That was the hypothesis of Darpanet, that a single point can be attacked, so information was distributed widely, so that when one node was taken down, it didn't threaten any of the other nodes. It would certainly need a check and balance.

Anyway, Google's search results in the last 5 years or so have been quite poor, perhaps since 2005 or thereabouts. For example, search for "sexual shaming" and all that comes up on the first page is "slut shaming". I'm sorry Google, but "slut" was not the keyword I used, and "slut" is not precisely equivalent to "sexual", any established dictionary can prove this.

dickthegrouch

(3,184 posts)
9. Faux Noise will probably sue
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:49 PM
Mar 2015

But Google isn't the government, yet. They are a private business and can make any decisions they please wrt truthiness.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
12. If the Soviet Union did this in the 70's, we would have called it totalitarian
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:30 PM
Mar 2015

But, when it's mother Google...

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