the national Dems to bite me? Fuck yeah? The football team only gets my vote, and that's it. No wallet open for them, and my feet will work for local Houston candidates and grassroots campaigns until something changes.

Which is fine...just mentioning the obvious.

Although, I retain hope that America collectively takes its head out of its ass.

Sorry...ain't gonna happen.

I can't stand these candidates anymore. Ms. Clinton lost me with the champagne toast during the 2004 convention.

"doody bubble"

President Hillary is in the works.

Just sayin.

in·ev·i·ta·ble /inˈevidəb(ə l/
adjective
adjective: inevitable

1. certain to happen; unavoidable.
"war was inevitable"

noun

noun: inevitable

1. a situation that is unavoidable.

Until then, I think it is both probable and likely.

political party.

The word is inaccurate.

I think Clinton is the probable nominee in 2016. I think she is very likely to be both the nominee and the next President.

No matter how much doom and drek we see here at DU, every poll shoes her to be popular among Democrats and detested and feared by Republicans.

But we are just under a year form the first vote in the primary. I'd rather see what shakes out between now and then.

It wants its "inevitable Hillary" theme back.

Did they clone Obama?

If she loses, you post an apology thread and thereafter cease posting for the remainder of the election. Deal?

What will you do if you're wrong? Apologize and thereafter cease posting throughout the remainder of the election?

I will be wrong if she is inevitable. It's like the sun rising tomorrow. No one would wager against it, and no one who believes in the inevitable should have a problem wagering for it.

Hillary's nomination is, after all, inevitable. Logically if you are unwilling to make this wager, you don't truly believe in her inevitability, and therfore the inevitable claim must be a lie.

What are you willing to give up?

My God, how can you not see my point?

I will only make wagers in favor of the inevitable, not against it. So yes, I wager my life that the sun will rise tomorrow, and that the earth will still rotate around it. Even though the cost is high, I will win, so I will never lose my wager.

Do you really believe in Hillary's inevitability, or is it just a lie? If you believe, wager on something you can't lose.

be someone else.

How foolish. If you really believe she's inevitable, surely you wouldn't refuse.

What---no skin in the game?

How about this...

If she does not get the nomination I'll never post on DU again... How about you---you want to make that same wager?

Your exact words: "death and taxes"

Now you admit that she isn't. And you want me to take even odds against the inevitable. When it's time to put something on the table to match your apparent certainty, suddenly you aren't so confident. Interesting

Put up or shut up.

I concede your point that she might be inevitable. The odds are heavily in her favor. Why would I wager against a certainty?

What doesn't make sense is why you won't put your money where your mouth is. You are making the assertion that she is inevitable, not me. Why would you need me to wager anything if you really believed that?

I think this proves you're lying. You doubt, else you'd wager. So is this thread trolling or what? What was the purpose of your thread now that you admit you don't really believe Hillary is inevitable?

Ok...let's do it together then.

Let's both make the wager.

Wait a minute..I'm not your fucking monkey. ..

This wager is your terms...and duck that.

Skin in the game....come on..don't be chicken.

Amd that was when Obama, unlike Biden, actually declared. Oops!

I could have said her lead over Obama was 3%, 8 years ago. But I recognised that was a bit unusual. You have searched for the most extreme lead you could find in the entire process, and quoted that. Well done! In just 2 polls before that election did Hillary get above 50% - one in Sept 2007 (53%), and one in May 2008 (51% - by that time, Obama has broken 50% several times). She hasn't got below 50% once in this cycle.

SEPTEMBER -OCTOBER 2007

CNN, LA Times, Bloomberg, USA Today, ABC/WaPo, and Marist all had Clinton 29-33 points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls

She blew one of the greatest statistical advantages in American political history.

So me the new Obama.

Yes, you're cherry-picking. You've picked one period, and ignored 2/3rds of the polls during that time.

It's her turn..

I'm not sure how she could screw this pooch, but I would prefer a good horse-race. Competition is healthy.

lawyers parsing our nation's laws and declaring this story has already blown over?

Yeah, that's a bubble.

I think she would be fine as President, but as a campaigner she's less than stellar.

I think you're my favorite poster. Even if my favorite topic gets tweeked-- gotta love ya.

Some people don't admit it, but they know it. That's why there are so many attacks.

Wow. That's some endorsement. So when I predict that nominating Hillary will result in a Republican Win, much as I and others here said that the Senate was in Danger months before the pundits, does that mean I'm really smart and should get paid for my opinions?

host a series of "debates" that will allow Hillary to have discussions with others including Bernie and Elizabeth so that we can get some of our issues out into the air. This last week CPAC allowed the Rs to do just that. They were in the news continually. We need exposure like that minus the crazy.

Maybe we could call them platform discussions. Most of the people of this country have little or nothing to say about writing the platform - why not allow them exposure to that aspect of our campaigns? I am from a caucus state and one of the great things about a caucus is that we see the platform and can vote on it in the caucus.

Let the people help build the platform, generate buy in, increase excitement.

I wonder whether you have forgotten that in these
US there are a lot of Repugs with a huge megaphone,
and a few people with billions of dollars.

She will destroy these clowns.

you may be miscalculating. For many people
8 years of a Democratic WH is asking for change.

Also there is a question of same old, which may
reduce the interest in the election.

Using a personal email account for official government business is illegal?



I know you can.


Inevitable that.

looks like the story is already falling apart.

You engage in too much wishful thinking.

See you tomorrow....

But best of luck playing your purge game with someone else.

I think debate is good. I took your post to to mean you thought she broke the law.

I've seen how they operate.

Least of all a potential presidential candidate.

Fuck yeah!

Hillary and Hubbell as in Webb. That will probably be the next bullshit rumor thing folks will be bringing up.

Only the negative about Hillary Cllinton. Never the positive. That's the rule of the day.

You third-way sell-outs wanna play that game, we can play just as hard.

Don't start crying when your corporate candidate loses because people like me stay home on election day as you have done in the past.

If you want an shill for corporate America, then own the results of a loss when it happens, understand.

Hillary was "inevitable" throughout all of 2007. She led every poll.

Then in January of 2008, something happened. Some guy named Orama, Olama, Ogama -- can't remember -- took the lead and never looked back. That was the end of Hillary.

Let's just have a coronation.