But not a wing.

Hewwo?

--imm

in the same position on the chart then you have put warren on the right, Hillary has been on the left for years, it has taken Warren longer to arrive. I know you read other post claiming his falsehood, it is time to set the record straight.

... and other issues that corporate lobbyists care about.

THAT is what makes her on the right wing of the party (or at least on the CORPORATE 1% side of the party) if you don't want to position those issues as "right" or "left" which might be arguable, since both parties have a big portion bought off by the Corporatist Uber Party that controls the agenda of both of them through their money.

The OP makes a good point that Elizabeth Warren has soft-pedaled her stances on social issues, and focused more on fundamental systemic issues and fiscal issues that affect all of us. Many independents and tea partiers also complain about how pols (and they focus on people like Obama) being too much tied to the banks, etc. too. They are wanting a solution to corporate corruption too, even if they don't realize that Republicans aren't going to provide that solution to them as they suck in the Rush and Beck propaganda.

Bernie is also a decent pol against the corporatist agenda, but he has many areas where he takes strong positions on the left on social issues, that many of us like too, but might along with him defining himself as a socialist, alienate him from those that might align themselves with Warren who's less focused on those social issues as the corporatists are or even Bernie is. And that in my book is a winning formula for all of us, as it is why she's even a bigger target for the corporatist propaganda machine than Bernie is, because she's far more of a threat that represents ALL Americans against the corporatist cancer that infects our government now. It will just be a matter of time before more people in the country are discovering that these issues are the fundamental ones that need solving first before we can have a real democracy working on many other issues in a democratic and hopefully less divisive fashion that has been engineered upon us now to keep us divided and not focused on removing the oligarchs from power.

Concerned about issues corporate lobbyists care about?

I feel sure you are aware of Warren stating she accepted contributions for her Senator campaign. Warren has not been trying to cover the fact she took the campaign funds and since she is an economists she understands financing campaigns.

Ask Bernie why he attends meetings with corporate lobbyists from the oil, energy and tobacco industries.

Let's look at facts, if you do not like Hillary that would be one issue but to use the reasons you do not like her and the two you posted about have been involved in the two issues you are listing on disliking Hillary. If Hillary is bad for accepting corporate money then Warren is also bad, if listening to corporate lobbyists is bad then Bernie is also bad.

... to get elected. The difference is that she's the only one that rightfully comes out and says that the system is rigged and needs changing, so that decent politicians that don't want to be dependent on corporate bribery to get elected can do so. Most of the rest of the politicians don't touch this issue as they know they can get pushed out if they push the system too much. But at least many of them don't embrace and encourage this kind of corruption like the Clintons have in their efforts to help push the DLC in to power when Bill Clinton became president, which helped facilitate Koch brother money influence to start influencing the process way back then.

The FACTS are that you have to play that game to get elected, so as much as you want to make it sound like Bernie and Warren are hypocrites for doing what they are doing, you really aren't advocating any way they can alternatively do so without getting this money. We need changes like public campaign financing and instant runoff voting to start removing this influence. But corporate Democrats along with their corporate buddy Republicans are going to fight those efforts to keep living off this corruption. We need someone like Warren to help us fix this problem.

They don't care about democracy or fair trade, but hey our opinion is not important to them! All that counts is that you vote for the corporate candidate! Those two other people won't give in to Wall Street...or not right away. Can't have that.

goes to meetings with corporate lobbyists.

I imagine we'll see more 'Hillary is corporatist' threads than usual in the next few days to ease the pain.

KQED just reported the email scandal as something improper Hillary had done. No mention of the law coming into effect after Hillary left office. Frankly, I don't follow Hillary news enough to have a very clear on either the scandal or her exoneration. But I was under the impression, as you clearly are, that the "scandal" had been defused. But it was a headline on the PBS news show.