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mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:32 PM Mar 2015

Anyone else watching Lawrence O'Donnell tonight?

I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but during his segment on the email flap he sounds more like a Faux News host than an MSNBC one. Is he just trying to keep his job with the change in focus on MSNBC? If so, I can go to bed earlier.

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Anyone else watching Lawrence O'Donnell tonight? (Original Post) mak3cats Mar 2015 OP
Remarkably, Nielsen is reporting one viewer jberryhill Mar 2015 #1
Very funny! mak3cats Mar 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #2
I'm not attacking the messenger, but his message and the delivery thereof... mak3cats Mar 2015 #3
Third night in a row for him. DURHAM D Mar 2015 #4
This "scandal" was self inflicted by HRC awake Mar 2015 #9
It is not a scandal. DURHAM D Mar 2015 #10
Scandal was the term you wrote awake Mar 2015 #12
Have it on mute oldandhappy Mar 2015 #6
I was appalled at his rude behavior toward Jennifer Granholm... Spazito Mar 2015 #7
Jennifer Granholm was way out in left field awake Mar 2015 #11
When did the rules get signed into effect? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #15
2009 awake Mar 2015 #16
The law was changed in 2014, after Hillary Clinton left... Spazito Mar 2015 #18
From dailykos.com awake Mar 2015 #21
This did not come into force until 2014... Spazito Mar 2015 #22
No (nt) bigwillq Mar 2015 #8
Saw it and also thought it uncharacteristic of him. R B Garr Mar 2015 #13
He jumped the shark a bit, IMO Adrahil Mar 2015 #14
O'Donnell is not really a fan of the Clintons JI7 Mar 2015 #17
I though I was looking at Fox News I guess this is the new and improved MSNBC bigdarryl Mar 2015 #19
Catching up on Puglover Mar 2015 #20
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Remarkably, Nielsen is reporting one viewer
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

So, surprisingly, that must be you and no, no one else is watching.

Response to mak3cats (Original post)

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
3. I'm not attacking the messenger, but his message and the delivery thereof...
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:43 PM
Mar 2015

...he was parroting some points I heard earlier from more right wing sources, and he has adopted the habit of talking over his guests rather than letting them speak. I did not call him (or Rachel) a liar.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
4. Third night in a row for him.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:43 PM
Mar 2015

Last night I started thinking about Operation Mockingbird. Today's NBC/MSNBC, Washington Post and NY Times reporting confirmed it for me.

It has been 6 years since the Spooks have had a useful tool in the WH and they are salivating over the idea of another one of Poppy B's boys or any other total moron with an R after his name.

The last thing they want is someone who knows how their lying trade craft works. They are setting up more scandals as I type.

awake

(3,226 posts)
9. This "scandal" was self inflicted by HRC
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:48 PM
Mar 2015

The news media did not make up the fact the the emails were not keep as the 2009 rules said they needed to. HRC did this to her self and has no one else to blame.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
6. Have it on mute
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:46 PM
Mar 2015

I am tired of the shows all carrying the same three stories. Heads up MSNBC. Books are great!

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
7. I was appalled at his rude behavior toward Jennifer Granholm...
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:47 PM
Mar 2015

his tone was awful. She handled it with more class than I could have.

awake

(3,226 posts)
11. Jennifer Granholm was way out in left field
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:58 PM
Mar 2015

she actually said that it was ok to act as other Heads of the state department acted even when the rules changed in 2009, meaning the HRC could decide to not fallow the new rules because past heads acted under old rules so so could she use outdated rules if she wanted

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
18. The law was changed in 2014, after Hillary Clinton left...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:35 AM
Mar 2015

"Late in 2014 - long after Clinton left State - President Barack Obama signed an update to the Federal Records Law to "prohibit the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they copy or forward any such emails into their government account within 20 days," according to the National Archives and Records Administration."

I have found nothing that states she broke either rules or regulations.

What rule are you referencing re 2009?

awake

(3,226 posts)
21. From dailykos.com
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 08:42 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/03/1368342/-Let-us-look-at-the-law-re-Clinton-Emails#

".....The head of each Federal agency shall make and preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency and designed to furnish the information necessary to protect the legal and financial rights of the Government and of persons directly affected by the agency’s activities

Important Point 1 There has been an argument that HRC maybe did not know about her obligation to store documents. This position is meritless: HRC was the head of a Federal Agency, and she by law had an obligation to preserve records throughout her agency. She by law cannot claim ignorance of her requirements.

44 USC Chapter 31 is implemented through regulations. Those regulations came about in 2009. See 74 FR 51014, October 2, 2009. These were published in the CFR in the 2010 edition of the CFR, and that is what I will be citing. Ms. Clinton was secretary of state at the rime the regulations were adopted and, by law, she was expected to have knowledge of them and implement them per 44 USC Chapter 31......."

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
22. This did not come into force until 2014...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 08:46 PM
Mar 2015

Your link goes to an opinion by a poster at dkos, it is merely one opinion among many.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
13. Saw it and also thought it uncharacteristic of him.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:00 AM
Mar 2015

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was raising his concerns in that manner to show that she has to be careful (as any candidate) to not have things like this take over the talking points. I kind of got that when David Axelrod mentioned that point, and O'Donnell seemed to agree.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
14. He jumped the shark a bit, IMO
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:11 AM
Mar 2015

For example his "disbelief" about how a me policy might not be immediately implemented.

In my federal career, lots of rules weren't immediately implemented by everyone for the simple fact that it simply wasn't practical or effective.

Heck, once policy on electronic communications wasn't fully implemented until 5 years after the policy was issued

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