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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:01 PM Mar 2015

Hillary, E-mail, and elections

Now, standard disclaimer: Yes, if she is the Democratic Nominee, I WILL, repeat WILL vote for Hillary Clinton. As tempting as the idea of a write in or third-paty portest vote would be, the Election of 2000 proved once and for all that not voting for the lesser of two evils does NOT absolve you if you let a member of the GOP into the Oval Office. As much as Nader loves to say he did not help W. get in to do all the damage, he is wrong, he knows it, and so do the people who got hurt because W. got power he would NOT have gotten.

That being said, I also understand that it is hard to support people who frankly, actively hate you, and work only 20 percent less harder to destroy you then the GOP. Many of us want to believe in some "big tent" however, when the Clintons support people like Alison Grimes, who would not even admit she voted Democrat, yoiu get a feeling that they intend to kick you oput of the big tent when the rain gets in, so that the megabucks donors can have the same Champagne and Cigars Victory party they planned to have in Jeb's tent.

This email scandal, while NOT what the GOP makes of it, is still an example of why many of us, even those who will vote for her, are frustrated. No, it was NOT illegal, but it was the same combination of arrogant, careless and stupid that marked her loss in the 2008 campaign. For her to argue that she was not trying to conceal information is arrogant at best. Yes, the reason we use gov. email is because, yes, your correspondence as Secretary of State is PUBLIC RECORD. There are teenagers and former CEO's that are currently in JAIL because of what they wrote in email, and she knows it. If some teenaged idiot is in jail because their email induced some poor foll to kill themselves, do you think we will not need to know what Hillary wrote about people? And no, I do not mean the overrated Benghazi, a "scandal" so thin that it does nothing but show desperation of the GOP. Here, the very effort to conceal makes her look worse than she actually was, which is unforgivable when she had a frotn row seat to her Husband's self immolation when he looked into the camera and said " I did NOT have SEX with that woman!" only to leave us so dazed we still debate about what the meaning of "is" actually is. Hillary is supposed to be EXPERIENCED so, why does she charge, not walk, into the same damned trap.

The effort to conceal also highlights her weakness as candidate. As young black kids got shot by cops and trigger happy "gun owners", as Keystone tries to dig into the nation, there is nothing but a lot of silence. Frankly, even if we knew with 100 percent certainity that she would NEVER run for officve again, she still would not be allowed to be silent on these matters, because she is one of the strongest voices in our party. The fact that she is likely to run (and already has the bumper stickers and P.A.Cs formed) means she cannot play her cards to her vest. The fact she is slient seems to cater to the worst fears, that she will NOT rach out to the left, adn instead will rely on those wall street and conservative blue dog donors who will shower her with koney on the condition that she run and govern to the right, to govern as what we used to call GOP.

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