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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:42 PM Mar 2015

Homeowners association denies playhouse for cancer-stricken 6-year-old girl

http://q13fox.com/2015/03/05/homeowners-association-denies-playhouse-for-cancer-stricken-6-year-old-girl/

Ella’s No. 1 wish is to beat her cancer that has threatened her life and stop the chemotherapy. But her mother, Jennifer, had asked her what she would want beyond that.

“She said, ‘A house,'” her mother recalled. “‘I want a play one.'”

They worked with Make-A-Wish and the dream was granted. The construction giant, J.E. Dunn, even agreed to build it in their Raymore backyard and ensure the shingles matched those used on homes in the neighborhood....

The Stone Gate Homeowners Association indeed turned down the plans. HOA leaders said building a structure in the backyard would go against the neighborhood’s covenants. In response to the national uproar that the decision created, HOA leaders said Wednesday night that they are working to find a compromise.


HOAs are miniature repuke parties.
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Homeowners association denies playhouse for cancer-stricken 6-year-old girl (Original Post) KamaAina Mar 2015 OP
I absolutely despise, with a white-hot fury any and all HOA's... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #1
A bit of a stretch yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #2
Nope. The only ones I have had any experience with are run by republican mini-hitlers... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #3
My neighbors are all Democratic supporters yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #6
If the little girl gets better she damn well deserves that playhouse. pnwmom Mar 2015 #4
I am interested in seeing the compromise. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #10
No one here has rebuilt a house. But it would certainly be possible to build pnwmom Mar 2015 #13
Precisely, and thank you gratuitous Mar 2015 #8
When we bought our house in 1990 it was painted OD green. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #14
Indeed gratuitous Mar 2015 #22
I'd never live in a subdivision with a HOA... Blanks Mar 2015 #49
As others have noted, it's not so easy to avoid HOAs in some areas Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #51
Ours was manure brown on the top (the bottom was brick) Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #34
Having cancer is sort of different treestar Mar 2015 #11
I thankfully do not live in an HOA. NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #15
No one is forced to move into a neighborhood with an HOA SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #5
Sort of true. They are so common in some parts of the country that it is not easy to avoid them. stevenleser Mar 2015 #19
Fair enough SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #31
You don't have to buy a home where there is a HOA upaloopa Mar 2015 #35
The only thing worse than a HOA that over-restricts, is one that Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #53
I'd darn sure make an exception for that little girl. Hoyt Mar 2015 #7
Indeed... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #9
+1 treestar Mar 2015 #12
Normal human beings would... NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #16
Always? My wife has been elected member of our neighborhood HOA board twice onenote Mar 2015 #32
Like me I was elected and most associations upaloopa Mar 2015 #36
What about the little boy whose wish is to have a backyard yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #21
Not familiar with that case. But if it's 500 acres, I guess it might be OK if neighbors are safe. Hoyt Mar 2015 #23
Well I do too yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #25
A playhouse=guns. Right. blue neen Mar 2015 #39
Both kids disappointed. Nothing ludicrous about that. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #41
Fantastic line from Downton Abbey this season: blue neen Mar 2015 #47
I love that show.....point taken and understood. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #48
That is one steep slope, there n/t kcr Mar 2015 #43
The HOA has rules for a reason and if they made exceptions for anyone who had something terrible dilby Mar 2015 #17
What specifically and relevantly leads you to that conclusion? LanternWaste Mar 2015 #30
When rules are in place, no there should be no exception. Exceptions lead to a tiered system dilby Mar 2015 #33
Generally there is a committee set up to make those upaloopa Mar 2015 #37
Unfortunately, some/many HOA's and Co-op Boards have folks who should never have been given any stevenleser Mar 2015 #18
So very, VERY much this. Here in Houston, they've been given way too much power ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #20
That's just wrong. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #24
If I were the parents, I would say yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #28
Oh yes. I have seen their princess packages. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #29
HOAs... Oubaas Mar 2015 #26
When you buy a house with a HOA you are given upaloopa Mar 2015 #38
People Like Me? Oubaas Mar 2015 #40
Did I not say "if you buy a house with a HOA" upaloopa Mar 2015 #42
Geeze, what is it with people? What is so hard, huh? kcr Mar 2015 #44
Well... Oubaas Mar 2015 #45
Did their kid have cancer when they bought the house? KamaAina Mar 2015 #46
Poor kid Bettie Mar 2015 #27
That's an asshole move. HappyMe Mar 2015 #50
Here is my HOA story. New neighbor moved in azmom Mar 2015 #52
Girl Battling Cancer to Get Playhouse After Missouri Homeowners Association Reverses Its Decision PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #54
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
1. I absolutely despise, with a white-hot fury any and all HOA's...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:46 PM
Mar 2015

...full of busy-body kill-joys....

Fuck them all.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. A bit of a stretch
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:55 PM
Mar 2015

I live in HOA and like it a lot. Most live in one now. I think they are great. This situation while sad was known by the parents who should not have encouraged such a thing. What if the little girl gets better? Does the next door neighbor get to build one too because his little girl wants one too.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
3. Nope. The only ones I have had any experience with are run by republican mini-hitlers...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:58 PM
Mar 2015

...that live on fining residents and ever-expanding the covenants and rules...

Petty, vindictive nasty little people that should just really learn to STFU and mind their own fucking business...

YMMV

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. My neighbors are all Democratic supporters
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:01 PM
Mar 2015

I am sure a few in the country are run by Republicans since they make up a percentage of the population. I did my homework and went into a Democratic area.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
4. If the little girl gets better she damn well deserves that playhouse.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:59 PM
Mar 2015

Have you ever known anyone who went through radiation and chemotherapy? Much less a child?

Please rethink that heartless response.

I live in a HOA and I think a lot of the rules are silly and overreaching, and Ive spoken out when it's time to vote on them. In between, I have to put up with them. But I'd never justify this kind of decision.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
10. I am interested in seeing the compromise.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:03 PM
Mar 2015

Should be interesting and maybe even better for the entire neighborhood. Don't we get up set when the rich build an obscene house that takes away from the look of the neighborhood?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. No one here has rebuilt a house. But it would certainly be possible to build
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:08 PM
Mar 2015

an ugly house here and still keep to the rules about paint colors, roofing materials, etc.

When our HOA rules were renewed, I had to fight for the right to have a solar installation on my roof -- which used to be banned. We still don't have one, but I wanted the right to have one when we're ready -- so we had to get the rules changed. Thirty years ago when the rules were written, no one anticipated solar energy here.

You might want to take a look at your rules sometime. You might be surprised what's in there.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Precisely, and thank you
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:02 PM
Mar 2015

I've never lived in an HOA, and don't plan to. But one of the things that make an HOA so desirable for the people who live in them is the rules that are in place designed to ensure those desirable characteristics are protected. Among those characteristics is a certain uniformity in the grounds. HOA members can't leave rusting junk autos on their front lawns. They can't erect ginormous flagpoles. They can't paint their houses in psychedelic colors. You want to do these things? Either don't live in an HOA, or if you do live in an HOA, get a variance ahead of time. It's not that complicated.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
14. When we bought our house in 1990 it was painted OD green.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:19 PM
Mar 2015

I said that I wore that color for 3 1/2 years years and there was no fucking way I was going to live in it.
I wanted to paint the house purple but Donna wouldn't let me so we settled on a bright turquoise.
Thank the gods that there is no HOA here-of course if there was,we never would have bought the house.

I don't need petty commissars telling me what I can and can't do in my yard in regards to parking my pickup in the driveway, what color I can paint my house, or similar crap.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Indeed
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:46 PM
Mar 2015

Which is why I never plan to live in an HOA. But listening to people complain about HOAs so vociferously is like hearing someone say, "God, I can't tell you how much I hate that show 2½ Men! It double sucks! I can't stand it!!" Uh, so, like, maybe you could not watch it, Smedley?

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
49. I'd never live in a subdivision with a HOA...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:39 PM
Mar 2015

of course you're right.

They are in existence to protect the homeowners property values. You have to take the bad with the good.

If they allow this little girl to build this house, there's no stopping other violations of the rules. It's setting a precedent, and it may be enough for bubba to pull a small camp trailer into his back yard.

You just want to say "think people".

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
51. As others have noted, it's not so easy to avoid HOAs in some areas
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:04 PM
Mar 2015

so the choice may be to move to a different geography or put up with a HOA, and in the latter case hope that you can find housing you like with a HOA that pays attention only to the important stuff like funding community amenities rather than to the NIMBY crap like having a playhouse in the yard or planting vegetables rather than a lawn in the back of the house.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
34. Ours was manure brown on the top (the bottom was brick)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:17 PM
Mar 2015

We repainted in shade that looks either blue or purple depending on how much light was on it. It's probably time to repaint, although we need to replace a few water damaged boards first. Turquoise sounds rather fun.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
15. I thankfully do not live in an HOA.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:20 PM
Mar 2015

My neighbors and I get along great and help each other out multiple times a year, even though we have some extreme ideological differences. We keep our properties up just fine without an HOA to try to fine us over minutiae.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
5. No one is forced to move into a neighborhood with an HOA
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:01 PM
Mar 2015

I live in an HOA subdivision, but ours is very easygoing...keep your yard up, don't build something without a permit, etc. Most of the fees go to trash & recycling collection, street plowing when necessary, and upkeep of common areas & paths.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
19. Sort of true. They are so common in some parts of the country that it is not easy to avoid them.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:38 PM
Mar 2015

Not a fan. I lived in one once and had no issues with them, but others in the neighborhood did.

Many rulings seemed arbitrary and exceptions made for folks that had a good friend in a decisionmaking role.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
31. Fair enough
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

I know that when we were looking to buy, there were lots of HOAs, and they varied widely in how strict they were, what they cared about, etc.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
35. You don't have to buy a home where there is a HOA
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:14 PM
Mar 2015

If you do you agree to abide by the CC&R's
I was a treasurer on two HOA boards and yes people who think like you do are tough to deal with.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
53. The only thing worse than a HOA that over-restricts, is one that
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:23 PM
Mar 2015

forms cliques to strip the HOA of its resources at the same time that they use their positions to stick the homeowners with assessment to maintain infra-structure that came about through even more dirty deals.

Small government's influence on private HOAs in Florida is pestilence in a can.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
32. Always? My wife has been elected member of our neighborhood HOA board twice
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

She advocated successfully for a variety of pro-environmental measures. She and others on the board (most of whom are very active Democrats) also worked to maintain flexibility in the architectural review rules (which mostly require notice to neighbors before significant changes to property, but rarely if ever prevent those changes from being made).

In other words, your experience may not define "always."

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
21. What about the little boy whose wish is to have a backyard
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:44 PM
Mar 2015

Gun range so he can go out and have fun shooting his gun. I could imagine the change in tone with some.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. Not familiar with that case. But if it's 500 acres, I guess it might be OK if neighbors are safe.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:48 PM
Mar 2015

I think gunz and a play house are very different.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
47. Fantastic line from Downton Abbey this season:
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:17 AM
Mar 2015

"A lack of compassion can be as vulgar as an excess of tears." (spoken by the Dowager Countess).

dilby

(2,273 posts)
17. The HOA has rules for a reason and if they made exceptions for anyone who had something terrible
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:24 PM
Mar 2015

happen to them they might as well not have any rules period. People love HOA's till they want to do something that is against the rules then they complain about how terrible they are. It sucks the littler girl can't have her play house but, maybe she could settle for a doll house in her room.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. What specifically and relevantly leads you to that conclusion?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:07 PM
Mar 2015

"they made exceptions for anyone who had something terrible happen to them they might as well not have any rules period..."

What specifically and relevantly leads you to that conclusion?

Do you believe no exceptions should ever be granted regardless of circumstance? Some exceptions? If the latter, what are the precise and objective qualifiers on which those exceptions are predicated?

dilby

(2,273 posts)
33. When rules are in place, no there should be no exception. Exceptions lead to a tiered system
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:14 PM
Mar 2015

where some people get what they want while others do not. If it's a bad rule you change it, you don't make an exception. The same holds true for laws.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
37. Generally there is a committee set up to make those
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:20 PM
Mar 2015

decisions. They are made up of other homeowners not board members. They make suggestions to the board.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. Unfortunately, some/many HOA's and Co-op Boards have folks who should never have been given any
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

power or authority and they promptly misuse the little the position gives them.

Definitely not all, but enough.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
20. So very, VERY much this. Here in Houston, they've been given way too much power
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:39 PM
Mar 2015

because we don't have what are considered "normal" zoning laws here. They tried to make me keep the ugly assed tree rings around the oak tree out front. That's not in the deed, so I fought them. Now, I get reminders once a week. When I move, I'm going to drop the binder full of them off on the management desk on my way out.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. If I were the parents, I would say
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:55 PM
Mar 2015

"What about Disney?" Maybe she would go for that. A lot of fun can be had at Disney.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
29. Oh yes. I have seen their princess packages.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:02 PM
Mar 2015

You're right. I think the parents can deftly move her in another direction, away from disappointment.

Oubaas

(131 posts)
26. HOAs...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:54 PM
Mar 2015

...are one of the major symbols of why I like my horse better than I like most people.

So, I never lived in an area that had one. Tell me, do they have rules about things like old geezer cowboys playing their Frank Zappa collection at head-splitting volume?

I don't think I could live like that. If I want to paint the barn purple, that's my business.

What is it with humans wanting to run other peoples' lives? It's like a compulsion with this species...

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
38. When you buy a house with a HOA you are given
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:23 PM
Mar 2015

a copy of the CC&R's before you close. If you don't want to live by them you don't buy the house. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. The reason for HOA's is so people like you don't get to lower other people's property values.

Oubaas

(131 posts)
40. People Like Me?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:03 PM
Mar 2015

ROFLMAO! Hmm, I've made the big time! I'm now officially one of those "people like you" who are at the root of so many of the world's problems.

Well, if it eases the strain on your kidneys any, you're in no danger of me moving into your neighborhood and wrecking your property value. I'll be keeping my crazy ass out here in the sticks where I don't bother anyone.

Besides, I'm a disabled veteran and they won't let me drive anymore. It would just be too hard to move to where you are.

But if you're ever way out in the sticks and hear "Penguin In Bondage" blaring from someone's stereo, stop in for coffee!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
42. Did I not say "if you buy a house with a HOA"
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:41 PM
Mar 2015

? If you do and you live like you want to you lower property values. Get it?

kcr

(15,317 posts)
44. Geeze, what is it with people? What is so hard, huh?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 08:36 PM
Mar 2015

Why is it so hard to understand that only people who can exactly plan their lives out, and know The Secret so nothing bad ever happens should buy into HOAs. If they don't know this, and live their crazy, hectic lives with totally random things happening because they're not smart enough, well, gosh, that's just their own dumb fault. Plan! Organize! Dream It! Live it! The HOA way! Losers and randos get out of the way!

Oubaas

(131 posts)
45. Well...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:09 PM
Mar 2015

...in my own defense, the house is very well insulated, so the music doesn't really leak out much. And the barn is a very tasteful shade of purple. Sort of a "merlot meets high voltage" kind of thing. So maybe my charming but eccentric ways would actually attract people to the neighborhood, thus raising property values. I don't think that we should just assume that I'd automatically be a disaster.

So, are monitor lizards on the "acceptable pets" list? He's not really all that big, but he is a little snappish. But he's litterbox and leash trained and I have a pooper-scooper.

Perhaps you could send me a brochure. It sounds like a nice neighborhood...

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
27. Poor kid
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:54 PM
Mar 2015

But, HOA's are like that.

I'd never live in a neighborhood with one. They bring out the worst in humans.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
52. Here is my HOA story. New neighbor moved in
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:03 PM
Mar 2015

And refuses to obey HOA law regarding not having mobile home on your property unless you build a building to house it in. Two years later I try to sell my home and buyer pulls out because HOA tells him he has to build a building to house his mobile home. When I called the HOA, they tell me they are powerless to do anything about my neighbor. Apparently, the fines are accumulating, but as long as the neighbor pays her monthly HOA fees they can't do much about it.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
54. Girl Battling Cancer to Get Playhouse After Missouri Homeowners Association Reverses Its Decision
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:40 AM
Mar 2015

Shortly before 5 p.m. Thursday, the Stonegate Homeowners Association announced they will allow the little girl battling cancer to have her wish come true and get the playhouse she wanted. The group reversed its previous decision to block the 6-year-old’s playhouse from being built.

Read the rest at: http://ktla.com/2015/03/06/girl-battling-cancer-to-get-playhouse-after-missouri-homeowners-association-reverses-its-decision/

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