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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 08:45 PM Mar 2015

Elizabeth Warren: I will be a voice for working people

Elizabeth Warren: I will be a voice for working people
3/9/2015


For someone who has repeatedly denied plans to run for president, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren sure sounded like a potential 2016 candidate on Monday, when she talked about what she can personally do for the working class and for Washington.

Speaking at the International Association of Firefighters Conference, Warren said she “will be a strong voice for working people across country,” adding “I will do it because it’s right.”

Warren began with a shout-out to her state and applauded the firefighters in Boston, noting a “special kind of courage” it takes to put their lives on the line. She recognized two Boston firefighters who died on the job this year. Then, she quickly pivoted to put blame on the U.S. for not providing equipment, training and a larger force.

This neglect isn’t just limited to fire departments, she pointed out, noting how “starving services” extends to roads, medical research and schools.

“Why is there no money to make the country work?” Warren asked the group. She then responded, “I’ll tell you: The game is rigged … it’s getting worse day by day.”

The senator has a solution for those problems: Elizabeth Warren.

“So I’m here today to say this isn’t right, I’m here to say that our spending should align with our values … I can rail on about what’s wrong in Washington and I will rail on about what’s wrong in Washington,” Warren said....

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/elizabeth-warren-i-will-be-voice-working-people

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Elizabeth Warren: I will be a voice for working people (Original Post) RiverLover Mar 2015 OP
Warren tells it like it is: “I’ll tell you: The game is rigged … it’s getting worse day by day.” think Mar 2015 #1
That is what she has been doing, but I disagree with the premise that she acts like a potential 2016 still_one Mar 2015 #2
She sure sounds Presidential RobertEarl Mar 2015 #3
You better believe she does!! RiverLover Mar 2015 #7
I never said she didn't sound presidential. I said she did not sound like a candidate for 2016 still_one Mar 2015 #25
A by product of Hillary Clinton. Great for Elizabeth Warren to join her. William769 Mar 2015 #4
A by-product? Oh, please. djean111 Mar 2015 #8
... William769 Mar 2015 #10
Oh, you lost me with Ms. H-1B Visa saying there is too much out-sourcing. djean111 Mar 2015 #11
... William769 Mar 2015 #12
Mrs. bill nafta & ms h1b visa is fighting for american workers? yeah, pull the other one. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #18
Warren and Clinton disagree on two of the major issues and probably JDPriestly Mar 2015 #39
Agreed Bill! They will be a great team with Hillary as president and Warren in Senate leadership. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #13
And since Senator Warren wants to stay in the senate where she feels she can do the most good William769 Mar 2015 #14
Agreed! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #15
I haven't seen Secretary Clinton announce her Aerows Mar 2015 #36
I believe she will Hutzpa Mar 2015 #5
I'll not only vote for her Aerows Mar 2015 #6
I'll be working right there with ya Aerows! RiverLover Mar 2015 #9
I'll be on the ground Aerows Mar 2015 #32
She would get my vote Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #16
She may SOUND like she's a candidate, but she's not... brooklynite Mar 2015 #17
Oh, for crying out loud Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #19
But that's the point...I AM someone who would know... brooklynite Mar 2015 #21
She sure is keeping it a secret still_one Mar 2015 #26
Why would she have to announce her intentions now? Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #27
What will all the DU Senator Warren supporters for President in 2016 say when the primaries start, still_one Mar 2015 #29
I don't see your point Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #31
I'm hearing crickets Aerows Mar 2015 #34
Not at all. Webb, the ex-govenor of Maryland, Biden, Bernie and of course Clinton have still_one Mar 2015 #37
I'll take you seriously Aerows Mar 2015 #33
I have NEVER said Hillary is unstoppable...I've said she's electable... brooklynite Mar 2015 #42
Her ideas are very attractive. Deertoil Mar 2015 #20
I admire her so much. Liberalynn Mar 2015 #22
I would love for her and other candidates to take on the over-spending on the military spooky3 Mar 2015 #23
Has Warren said a word about military spending? brooklynite Mar 2015 #24
As a self-proclaimed political insider, you of all people should know Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #38
That's a line every Democrat says... brooklynite Mar 2015 #41
Nothing like moving the goalposts, right? Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #45
Do not assume that would be a priority with her. MADem Mar 2015 #35
She sounds like a leader LittleBlue Mar 2015 #28
Obama made you cynical, or the republicans who have been obstructing everything he has tried to do still_one Mar 2015 #30
Me too RiverLover Mar 2015 #40
Warren will win a lot of the "Not voting for Hillary!" vote. A LOT. nt Romulox Mar 2015 #43
+1 /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #46
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #44
A BY PRODUCT OF PAUL WELLSTONE....... THIS IS HER ROOTS Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #47
 

think

(11,641 posts)
1. Warren tells it like it is: “I’ll tell you: The game is rigged … it’s getting worse day by day.”
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 08:50 PM
Mar 2015



still_one

(92,301 posts)
2. That is what she has been doing, but I disagree with the premise that she acts like a potential 2016
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 08:57 PM
Mar 2015

candidate. At this time what she wants to do is exactly what she is doing in the Senate. A lot will depend on the makeup of the Senate in 2016 with what she will accomplish, but she will definitely shake things up


 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. She sure sounds Presidential
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:02 PM
Mar 2015

Amazing trajectory this woman is on. Just a few years ago hardly anyone even knew of her. Now the buzz is all about: "Will Liz run?"

People everywhere are asking that question. "Will Warren run for President?"

She sure sounds Presidential, doesn't she?

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. You better believe she does!!
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:29 PM
Mar 2015

*President Elizabeth Warren*

...has a very nice ring, doesn't it?



Run, Liz, Run!

still_one

(92,301 posts)
25. I never said she didn't sound presidential. I said she did not sound like a candidate for 2016
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:00 AM
Mar 2015

There is a difference

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. A by-product? Oh, please.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:31 PM
Mar 2015

Hillary - for the TPP
Warren - against the TPP

Hillary - oh, stop picking on the poor banks
Warren - the game is rigged.

No, not a by-product. That is demeaning and marginalizing.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. Oh, you lost me with Ms. H-1B Visa saying there is too much out-sourcing.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:56 PM
Mar 2015

Yeah, I know the visas are more like in-sourcing, but those visas do not protect American jobs.
And I think the TPP will strip some of her other rhetorical positions away from workers.

No pill for me to swallow.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. Warren and Clinton disagree on two of the major issues and probably
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:59 AM
Mar 2015

many more of the major issues that will have to be confronted in 2016.

Talk about a tough pill to swallow. Two of the most important issues America faces, and Hillary is most likely on the wrong side of them both.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
13. Agreed Bill! They will be a great team with Hillary as president and Warren in Senate leadership.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:07 PM
Mar 2015

William769

(55,147 posts)
14. And since Senator Warren wants to stay in the senate where she feels she can do the most good
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:12 PM
Mar 2015

It's a win win situation.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
36. I haven't seen Secretary Clinton announce her
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:57 AM
Mar 2015

race yet.

So I'm not going to be concerned that Sen Warren or Sen Sanders haven't announced theirs, either.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
5. I believe she will
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:22 PM
Mar 2015

she strikes me as someone who is as genuine as Obama, uh huh I've just said the 'G' word combined with Obama.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. I'll not only vote for her
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:27 PM
Mar 2015

I'll campaign for her if she chooses to run. This lady is the real deal, and we need someone like her to be our President.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. I'll be on the ground
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:49 AM
Mar 2015

and do everything I can. No one has stated they are running yet, so I have some hope that Warren will do so.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
17. She may SOUND like she's a candidate, but she's not...
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:18 PM
Mar 2015

...sorry to disturb anyone's dreams, but political reality says that IF you want to be a serious candidate, you need to have lined up political and financial support by now. She hasn't and she isn't. As your resident 1%er, I've come to know her fundraisers, and if she was lining up support for a Presidential foray, I'm one of the people they'd be reaching out to.

As much as it may annoy some people, Warren and Clinton aren't that far apart, which is why she joined the other Senate women in encouraging Hillary to run.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. Oh, for crying out loud
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:30 PM
Mar 2015

There's no law that says she has to announce RIGHT FREAKIN' NOW! For all you know, she could be lining up political and financial support. She certainly seems to strike a chord, both with the 99-percenters, and against the self-proclaimed 1-percenters.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
21. But that's the point...I AM someone who would know...
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:50 PM
Mar 2015

...there's no LAW, but there's a reality that says, if you're going to be competitive, you've laid the groundwork by now. Barack Obama announced in February, 2007, but he didn't just wake up and decide to run for President. He spent months considering the possibility, and lined up people who would support him before announcing. Warren ISN'T doing that, and I know the people she'd be working with if that was her plan. Beat up on 1%ers all you like, but Warren came to many of us for support in 2012, and she'd do it again if she was planning a Presidential campaign.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific,"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
27. Why would she have to announce her intentions now?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:04 AM
Mar 2015

If I were her, I wouldn't say I was running now, either. I would be trying to see what kind of support I could build quietly, while bringing up important issues that no one else seems to be addressing. I like this style, as it is a good way to avoid candidate fatigue this early in the game.

still_one

(92,301 posts)
29. What will all the DU Senator Warren supporters for President in 2016 say when the primaries start,
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:39 AM
Mar 2015

and Senator Warren is not one of the candidates for President?

I suspect the sound of crickets



Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
31. I don't see your point
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:49 AM
Mar 2015

Lots of people here and elsewhere like Senator Warren's message. I think she is testing the waters, maybe she will run, maybe she won't. I and others will be disappointed if she doesn't run, but at least we can say that we tried to get her to run. And I certainly don't want to see a primary where Hillary is given token opposition and then blows it in the general election. I want to see a lot of viable candidates, maybe even like there was in 1960 when JFK finally came out on top out of a field of 10. Debate the issues, show clear distinctions with Republicans, and may the person with the best ideas and fighting spirit win.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. I'm hearing crickets
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:55 AM
Mar 2015

for anyone announcing their candidacy.

I might even here some toads in there, too.

still_one

(92,301 posts)
37. Not at all. Webb, the ex-govenor of Maryland, Biden, Bernie and of course Clinton have
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:04 AM
Mar 2015

have either setup committees and not closed the door on a 2016 run.

Senator Warren multiple times has said she will not run for President in 2016.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
33. I'll take you seriously
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:54 AM
Mar 2015

when someone has announced their candidacy. Last I checked, no one has.

But please continue to tell everyone that a candidate that hasn't announced their candidacy is unstoppable.

Kat Deluna could announce her candidacy at this point.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
42. I have NEVER said Hillary is unstoppable...I've said she's electable...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:44 AM
Mar 2015

...and I've said she's going through the necessary early steps for a campaign...and Warren is not.

spooky3

(34,462 posts)
23. I would love for her and other candidates to take on the over-spending on the military
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:38 PM
Mar 2015

It eats up far too much of our budget. It is a huge problem. We can afford a competent military. We cannot afford to spend billions more than what is needed.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
38. As a self-proclaimed political insider, you of all people should know
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:04 AM
Mar 2015

that Ms. Warren has come out for reducing military spending.

"As we wind down two wars, we can make cuts in our defense budget - smart, targeted cuts that preserve our national security."

http://elizabethwarren.com/issues/jobs-and-the-economy

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Do not assume that would be a priority with her.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:56 AM
Mar 2015

She's quite pro-military and supportive of defense industry efforts in her (and my) home state of Massachusetts. All of her brothers served and one got a Purple Heart. She even fought to retain a line item in the Army budget that, if eliminated, would have cost MA jobs--even though the Army said they did not want or need the item.

I think she will walk a fine line on that score. It's like the visa thing--you can't find her talking a lot on that subject because she's a proponent of more "family" visas (visas for immediate relatives of immigrants, beyond just spouses and kids), and in order to get, you have to give a little.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
28. She sounds like a leader
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:11 AM
Mar 2015

Obama made me so cynical about politicians. But I could cast my vote for her with pride.

still_one

(92,301 posts)
30. Obama made you cynical, or the republicans who have been obstructing everything he has tried to do
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:47 AM
Mar 2015

have made you cynical.

Hopefully, it is the later, otherwise, in spite of all the obstacles President Obama has had to put up with, what he has accomplished is nothing less than amazing

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
40. Me too
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:20 AM
Mar 2015

I'm certain there would be no Rahms or Geithners too. I just think our country really needs her now. We need to make a hard left turn soon or we're screwed.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
47. A BY PRODUCT OF PAUL WELLSTONE....... THIS IS HER ROOTS
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:10 AM
Mar 2015

Wellstone introduced me to Warren

From Paul Wellstone to Elizabeth Warren


John Nichols


Paul Wellstone was a movement progressive. From the farm crisis days when he was organizing rural Americans to fight back against corporate agribusiness to the last days of his final campaign, Wellstone worked to forge a left that was muscular enough to win elections, to govern and to bend the arc of history toward justice.

But the senator from Minnesota was not afraid to stand alone, if that was what principle demanded. Just days before his death on October 25, 2002, he was the only US senator facing a seriously competitive reelection race to vote against authorizing George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to launch an invasion of Iraq.

Ten years after America lost the great progressive populist in a plane crash that claimed his remarkable wife, Sheila, their daughter, Marcia, two pilots, a driver and two campaign staffers, it is Wellstone’s courageous anti-war vote that is best recalled. And rightly so. Paul called me when he announced that he would oppose the Bush-Cheney administration’s rush to war. He was upbeat, proud and confident. He knew he had taken what Washington insiders believed to be a political risk, but he was betting on the common decency and the common sense of Minnesotans. And the polls circulating at the time of his death confirmed Wellstone’s political instincts were every bit as sound in 2002 as they had been in 1990—when he bet that a quirky, low-budget campaign run from the back of a green school bus and relying on a television ad that mimicked Michael Moore’s anti-corporate documentary Roger and Me could unseat a millionaire Republican senator.

That was Paul’s genius. He understood that, sometimes, perhaps most times, Americans respect a stand on principle. And he recognized that time often turns the isolated concern of the true believer into popular sentiment. Paul disliked the suggestion that he was a “maverick.” He might break with presidents of his own party, with Democratic leaders in the Senate, but he did not do so for headlines. He did so because he felt it was morally and practically necessary for what he called “the democratic wing of the Democratic Party” to be heard.

This was particularly the case when it came to defending the interests of the working poor. Paul did not anger easily. But he truly, totally, despised the notion that budgets could, or should, be balanced on the backs of the poor and the working class. When the privileged exploited their economic advantages and lobbying connections to write the laws of the land, Wellstone was more than willing to stand alone in opposition.

That was the case in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when the Senate................ .......................................................


http://www.thenation.com/blog/170821/paul-wellstone-elizabeth-warren

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