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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:41 AM Mar 2015

GOP 47 Bold Enough To Start A War And Blame Dems & Obama/ Fox Evil Enough To Support.

All of the latest GOP shenanigans are more like a coup. They are more determined than ever to destroy Obama's ability to do anything as president. It has become a crazy insane obsession. And the country will suffer as a result. Whose kids are these fools willing to sacrifice.
Bombing Iran could bring a Russian or Chinese response. Israel could be sucked in.

Obama is trying to buy time to give things a chance to change in Iran. 10 years is a long time if an agreement is negotiated.

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GOP 47 Bold Enough To Start A War And Blame Dems & Obama/ Fox Evil Enough To Support. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 OP
Such a glaring example of good vs evil world wide wally Mar 2015 #1
They started the Iraq War and then Rove blamed the Dems and Clinton. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #2
There will be war if... themonster Mar 2015 #3
The problem is there are no real consequences for them. Kablooie Mar 2015 #4
But what does "America stand for" today? CincyDem Mar 2015 #5
You've got a point there. Kablooie Mar 2015 #10
I dunno about WWIII, quite..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #6
Thyey attack us because they hate democracy. Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #7
The confederates are emboldened moondust Mar 2015 #8
And their followers too stupid to know any better LynneSin Mar 2015 #9

world wide wally

(21,749 posts)
1. Such a glaring example of good vs evil
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:19 AM
Mar 2015

Obama is working for peace only to be sabotaged by warmonger Republicans who never get their fill of other people's blood.
Sounds like a fucking episode of Twilight or Walking Dead

themonster

(137 posts)
3. There will be war if...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:50 AM
Mar 2015

Jeb Bush is the next president. I have no doubt about it. Let's hope Clinton cleans his clock.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
4. The problem is there are no real consequences for them.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:32 AM
Mar 2015

They can merrily spit on everything America stands for and still win elections.
Just like Wall Street and oil corporations, if they commit heinous crimes but are not punished they will continue to do more of them.

Even if there is a small backlash now, in a couple of years when they come up for elections no one will have any memory of their crimes. Only if the backlash happens weeks
before the election will it have any effect at all.

So they feel completely free to gleefully insult, slander, break laws and generally piss on everything they see because they know they will never suffer any consequences for this behavior.

CincyDem

(6,374 posts)
5. But what does "America stand for" today?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:28 AM
Mar 2015

I'm sure there are a lot of people asking the same question and probably even more answers but I personally am getting very disillusioned.

More and more I find myself being overwhelmed by the cognitive dissonance - that idea that the words and the pictures don't go together - when I think about America and it's role in the world.

Maybe we can chalk this post up to me not having my morning coffee yet but...

They still win elections because they do stand for what America has become.
They are not punished because their actions are not perceived as heinous crimes.
There is no memory of their actions because there's nothing memorable about their actions.
There are no consequences for their behavior because they are America.


Michael Douglas, in The American President, said (and I paraphrase) "America isn't democracy 101. It's hard and you're really got to want it to make it work". I fear there is a dwindling number of people who, for whatever reason, "really want it". The result is Washington D.C., Madison, Tallahassee, Austin, and Lincoln (to name just a few).

I wonder if America is the aged, balding, overweight dumpy guy with bad teeth, one eyebrow (over both eyes) and rheumey cloudy eyes who looks in the mirror and sees a 22 year-old stud with 6-pack abs, a dazzling smile, and piercing blue eyes. Just because we see it in the mirror doesn't mean it's real.

Time to go get coffee and buck up. Sheesh I hate what apathy is doing to this country.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
10. You've got a point there.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:25 PM
Mar 2015

Certainly there are a lot of unprecedented actions by our politicians today but things change and this may just be part of it.

And McCarthy got away with his witch hunt without consequences -- until there were consequences.
Same with the robber barons of the gilded age.

One big change is the lack of respect for governmental systems within government. As they say, we are a country of laws, but that's changing. We are becoming a country of emotions, primarily anger and outrage, probably due to Fox and right wing radio.

I wonder if the prelude to the Civil War felt like this? We are experiencing an un-civil war right now.

One foundational thing that has changed is the concept of negotiation. Holding out for getting everything you want without compromise seems to be popular on the right. They prefer to achieve nothing to prevent the opposition from gaining anything.
This, of course, is stupid in life and even more stupid in politics but there we are.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
6. I dunno about WWIII, quite.....
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:40 AM
Mar 2015

China has very little interest in Iran(and isn't the best of friends with Russia), and the Russkies are pretty well tied up in the Ukraine right now, trying to hold up their little oligarchic RW puppet states.

With that said, though, there's still plenty of potential for disaster.....which is why we *really* need to keep fighting back.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
7. Thyey attack us because they hate democracy.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:36 PM
Mar 2015

Half of them want oligarchy and the other half want theocracy. Either way, the last thing the GOP wants is democracy.

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