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hatrack

(59,590 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:43 AM Mar 2015

SAE Proudly Touts Its Association With The Confederacy On Its National Website

Sigma Alpha Epsilon (SAE), the fraternity that was kicked off of the University of Oklahoma’s campus Sunday night after video emerged of some of its members singing a racist chant that celebrates lynching, proudly touts its history on its website. “Sigma Alpha Epsilon is the only national fraternity founded in the antebellum South,” the fraternity’s national webpage explains, adding that the frat was “[f]ounded in a time of intense sectional feeling” and that it initially “confined its growth to the southern states.”

Though SAE had “fewer than 400 members when the Civil War began,” 369 fought in the Confederate army. Only seven fought for the union.

The video that thrust SAE’s University of Oklahoma chapter into the national spotlight certainly has echoes of the old South. It consists of a segregationist refrain repeated over and over again — “there will never be a ni**** in SAE” — interspersed with an allusion to the campaign of terrorism white supremacists once used to maintain Jim Crow rule in the South: “You can hang ‘em from a tree, but he’ll never sign with me.”

In the video, which has now been widely reported and shared on Youtube, white fraternity members dressed in formal attire jubilantly belt out this chant on a bus. An unknown cameraperson, most likely using a cell phone, captured the video while riding on the bus:

EDIT

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/09/3631366/racist-chant-frat-long-history-racist-incidents/

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SAE Proudly Touts Its Association With The Confederacy On Its National Website (Original Post) hatrack Mar 2015 OP
I think it's high time to get rid of fraternities alarimer Mar 2015 #1
what an ignorant statement. You should delete. While I was not in a sorority and had no use for them KittyWampus Mar 2015 #2
No they're not. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #3
I agree with you LiberalEsto Mar 2015 #4
Well, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Personal preference is understandable. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #5
Who are you to call me wrong? Who made you the judge and jury? LiberalEsto Mar 2015 #7
The Daiily News cwydro Mar 2015 #6

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
1. I think it's high time to get rid of fraternities
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

And sororities. They serve no purpose other than to entrench privilege. Just the "good ol' boy (and girl) network." That's all they are.

Ban them. They are all elitist scum.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. what an ignorant statement. You should delete. While I was not in a sorority and had no use for them
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:17 AM
Mar 2015

MANY of them do really wonderful community activities for seniors, handicapped etc.

In fact, some fraternities and sororities are DEVOTED to such and are labelled "Service Fraternities".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_fraternities_and_sororities

Furthermore, they are mostly all open to any school members. There probably are some that seek out pledges from the upper echelon of economic strata.

Yeah, some are notorious for keg parties and stupid pranks… but 20 year olds are generally known for keg parties and stupid pranks.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
4. I agree with you
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:35 AM
Mar 2015

I was the first woman asked to pledge a fraternity at Rutgers College in NJ, back in 1970. I turned them down because I felt strongly (and still do) that the fraternity system was elitist and ran contrary to my egalitarian ideals. I was a student at Livingston College, a coed, multi-racial school founded in 1969 as part of Rutgers University. At the time, Rutgers College was all-male.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
5. Well, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Personal preference is understandable.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:38 AM
Mar 2015

But not all fraternities and sororities are the same.

As I posted above there are some DEVOTED as part of their mission to community service.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_fraternities_and_sororities

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
7. Who are you to call me wrong? Who made you the judge and jury?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:43 AM
Mar 2015

There was nothing wrong with my refusing to join a fraternity because I believed it was elitist.

It's perfectly possible to do community service without joining a frat or sorority.


 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. The Daiily News
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:43 AM
Mar 2015

is reporting on another video that has surfaced showing their "house mom" saying the n-word repeatedly.

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