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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:51 PM Mar 2015

Tom Cotton thought Hillary would take his side

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/tom-cotton-2016-presidential-candidates-iran-letter/


Sen. Tom Cotton, who spearheaded the letter, said Tuesday he'd "welcome" presidential candidates to join the letter's signatories. And Cotton said he would welcome "even Hillary Clinton," the presumptive Democratic presidential frontrunner, to join the effort.

"I suspect she might have reservations about this ill-fated nuclear deal with Iran as well," Cotton said on CNN's New Day.



not so much:


Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton lambasted Senate Republicans who penned a letter aimed at undermining President Barack Obama's nuclear negotiations with Iran, calling the move "out of step with the best traditions of American leadership."

The Democratic frontrunner for the 2016 presidential campaign told reporters at the United Nations on Tuesday that "one has to ask, what was the purpose of this letter?"

"There appear to be two logical answers," Clinton said. "Either these senators were trying to be helpful to the Iranians or harmful to the commander-in-chief in the midst of high-stakes international diplomacy. Either answer does discredit to the letter's signatories."





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Tom Cotton thought Hillary would take his side (Original Post) Enrique Mar 2015 OP
He's delusional too, well, he sure fits in with the rest. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #1
Silly Tehran Tom. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #2
Bullshit, cotton knows Hillary wouldnt subscribe to this garbage, but is trying to get still_one Mar 2015 #3
she has sided with Iran hawks in the past Enrique Mar 2015 #4
When? joshcryer Mar 2015 #5
Her 2008 campaign, for starters... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #19
Any president would attack Iran if they attacked Israel MaggieD Mar 2015 #20
That is in the event Israel was attacked. joshcryer Mar 2015 #21
Made with the assumption that Israel WOULD be attacked Scootaloo Mar 2015 #23
Absolute nonsense. joshcryer Mar 2015 #26
Any other nations you think we should threaten to "Obliterate"? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #27
You're changing the subject. joshcryer Mar 2015 #28
No, I'm not Scootaloo Mar 2015 #29
It doesn't matter if it's conditional? joshcryer Mar 2015 #30
Republicans are desperate to sink her candidacy BainsBane Mar 2015 #6
obviously Enrique Mar 2015 #8
Hillary has never sided with foes in Iran, that is what treassonus 47 Senators have done! lewebley3 Mar 2015 #11
That was his first mistake Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #7
Tom Cotton committed Treason, and he broke the Logan, A Grand Jury should be called lewebley3 Mar 2015 #9
Delighted with Hillary's answer. jwirr Mar 2015 #10
It takes a special kind of idiot... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #16
Ouch! I heard that slap from here malaise Mar 2015 #12
He just keeps showing what an idiot he is marym625 Mar 2015 #13
I hope this continues to blow up in their faces. City Lights Mar 2015 #14
That stupid bastard is catching hell on his facebook page groundloop Mar 2015 #15
Good to know, thanks! Will check it out. nt City Lights Mar 2015 #25
They made this fucker the face of this letter as he doesn't bullwinkle428 Mar 2015 #17
Oh please mainstreetonce Mar 2015 #18
Her sides may still be aching from the laughter that induced, but I imagine she'll bear up well. Hekate Mar 2015 #22
Never a doubt in my mind she would side with the president. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #24
He's not the brightest bulb in the socket.. Cha Mar 2015 #31

still_one

(92,303 posts)
3. Bullshit, cotton knows Hillary wouldnt subscribe to this garbage, but is trying to get
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:03 PM
Mar 2015

Attention so the Hillary haters can have a hey day leaping to a conclusion that a repukes assumptions are valid

There are sensitive negotiations going on right now with Iran and both Kerry and the former SOS are not going to give attention or credibility to the crazies unless the media asks them

Why acknowledge garbage and give them any credibility?

The press would love to interfere with he negotiations on behalf of the repukes

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. she has sided with Iran hawks in the past
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:06 PM
Mar 2015

in ways that many considered to be out of the mainstream. I for one was glad to hear her come out so strong now. Another option would be for her to say nothing, I'm glad she came out strong instead.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
5. When?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:07 PM
Mar 2015

She has always called for diplomacy over punishment.

Cotton was trying to drum up faux outrage, nothing more.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
19. Her 2008 campaign, for starters...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:00 PM
Mar 2015
(Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton warned Tehran on Tuesday that if she were president, the United States could "totally obliterate" Iran in retaliation for a nuclear strike against Israel.

On the day of a crucial vote in her nomination battle against fellow Democrat Barack Obama, the New York senator said she wanted to make clear to Tehran what she was prepared to do as president in hopes that this warning would deter any Iranian nuclear attack against the Jewish state.

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacks Israel)," Clinton said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them," she said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/22/us-usa-politics-iran-idUSN2224332720080422

She's also been a big fan of onerous sanctions, and has expressed doubts that Iran has any interest in a deal.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
21. That is in the event Israel was attacked.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:05 PM
Mar 2015

The US would obviously intervene in such a scenario.

Her doubts about the deal were cautious, said over a year ago. Her current statements today indicate that she thinks the odds are a lot better.

This smearing of Clinton is idiotic.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
23. Made with the assumption that Israel WOULD be attacked
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Mar 2015

And with the promise of total obliteration. I personally find such genocidal rhetoric unacceptable from any US figure, regardless of the impetus for it.

Your mileage obviously must vary. Provided it's Clinton saying it? Provided it's Iranians getting threatened so? What's the key to getting you to pass this off as dovish rhetoric?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
26. Absolute nonsense.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:18 PM
Mar 2015

"If's" and "mights" littered her rhetoric. She did not say that Iran would attack Israel, at any point.

In fact, quite the opposite seems to be the history: http://swampland.time.com/2014/01/16/hillary-clinton-discussed-u-s-approval-of-an-israeli-strike-on-iran/

Clinton did not like the idea of using Israel to attack Iran.

Clinton likely released intel to thwart any such visions: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hillary-clinton-likely-released-classified-documents-to-thwart-israeli-preemptive-military-attack-on-iranian-nuclear-facilities-says-freedom-watch-founder-300044130.html

Also, remember, this was back when the media was questioning whether Clinton would be tough enough on the international scale. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Always the Clinton way.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. Any other nations you think we should threaten to "Obliterate"?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:36 PM
Mar 2015

Clinton seems comfortable with the term. I'm not.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
28. You're changing the subject.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:39 PM
Mar 2015

As per usual.

The subject was whether Clinton is hawkish on Iran.

Her statements today prove irrevocably that is not the case. And taking a quote out of context, dropping all of the caveats, is par for the course.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
29. No, I'm not
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:47 PM
Mar 2015
obliterate
verb oblit·er·ate \ə-ˈbli-tə-ˌrāt, ō-\
: to destroy (something) completely so that nothing is left


A person who thinks "obliterate" is acceptable terminology in foreign relations is not a dove. it doesn't matter if said obliteration is conditional (though the fact the condition's parameters are wholly make-believe bullshit is interesting in its own way.)
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
11. Hillary has never sided with foes in Iran, that is what treassonus 47 Senators have done!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:38 PM
Mar 2015

Hillary is for peace, say anything else is a lie, she is a strong person, who
would protect this country, but she is always for peace like Obama,
I glad Obama is in charge of foreign policy, I don't think he is always right,
but I trust him: that is all we can do in some circumstances. I didn't
want vote for him I was worried he was too young (but I did). He has been right in
in almost all of his choices in foreign policy. If I you chose a place for him,
after Hillary becomes President. I wish he could be in charge of Defense,
I would feel very safe if Hillary and Obama were working together on
the safety of this country. He like would not like that, but I found him
to be very talented in foreign policy.


 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
9. Tom Cotton committed Treason, and he broke the Logan, A Grand Jury should be called
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:26 PM
Mar 2015



He is in trouble, and very stupid, Hillary is noway is connected to
him We need to know if laws have been broken. We have
have grand jury tells how deep the treason goes!!

People need to go to jail!!

groundloop

(11,520 posts)
15. That stupid bastard is catching hell on his facebook page
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:48 PM
Mar 2015

In fact I contributed a few thoughts on the topic myself and urge everyone else here to contribute their insight as well.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
17. They made this fucker the face of this letter as he doesn't
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

have to face re-election for another 5 1/2 years.

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