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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:45 PM Mar 2015

Bibi in big trouble: New poll shows Israeli PM in danger of losing bid for fourth term

Corroborating other surveys showing that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to score a big polling bounce following his controversial March 3 congressional address on Iran, a new poll released Tuesday finds the prime minister in grave danger of losing his bid for a fourth term ahead of national elections in one week.

The poll, from the Knesset Channel, puts the center-left Zionist Union ahead of Netanyahu’s Likud party, with the Zionist Union on track to win 24 seats in the 120-seat parliament to Likud’s 21. The centrist Yesh Atid party is projected to win 14 seats.

Haaretz notes that if the Zionist Union joins forces with Yesh Atid and smaller left-leaning and Arab parties, it could form a government with 56 seats. Combining with smaller right-rightist and ultra-Orthodox parties, Netanyahu is on track to assemble 55 seats at most.

The Zionist Union is a coalition of Isaac Herzog’s Labor and Tzipi Livini’s Hatnuah parties. If the coalition manages to form a government, the two plan to rotate the prime ministership, with Herzog serving as premier for the first two years of the government’s term and Livni serving for the latter half. Both Herzog and Livni harshly criticized Netanyahu’s congressional address denouncing a potential Iranian nuclear deal, arguing that the speech further isolated Israel on the international stage.

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http://www.salon.com/2015/03/10/bibi_in_big_trouble_new_poll_shows_israeli_pm_in_danger_of_losing_bid_for_fourth_term/

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Bibi in big trouble: New poll shows Israeli PM in danger of losing bid for fourth term (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
Good. Maybe sanity can prevail finally. nt TBF Mar 2015 #1
Good to hear. cwydro Mar 2015 #2
The sooner Aerows Mar 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Mar 2015 #14
Couldn't happen to a 2naSalit Mar 2015 #4
This guy was an anachronism back in the 90's. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2015 #5
The same can be said about America.... WestSeattle2 Mar 2015 #26
Cotton, and his 47 mindless drones, just to name a few. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #34
Yes please jettison that turd to the dustbin of history. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #6
Wow Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #7
Three points DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #8
YESSSS!!! Rex Mar 2015 #9
Great, the maybe he'll commit suicide and go to Hell where williesgirl Mar 2015 #10
No doubt Roy Rolling Mar 2015 #32
Crank it up! KamaAina Mar 2015 #11
Hey, maybe a signed letter from a bunch of U.S. Republicans tanyev Mar 2015 #12
Ha! I was thinking frat boys from a certain school in Oklahoma. Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #56
6 of one, half-dozen of the other... Iggo Mar 2015 #61
May he sink beneath the waves hifiguy Mar 2015 #13
Too bad turds... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #19
Karma FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #15
It's not that simple... brooklynite Mar 2015 #16
My understanding of it is that the side with the most seats gets first bite at the apple rpannier Mar 2015 #30
Three Cheers to Israel, they are smart to get rid of the awful man!! lewebley3 Mar 2015 #17
Welcome to DU, lewebley3 calimary Mar 2015 #27
Unfortunately... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #18
hey, back in '13 he only got 23% of the vote--no better numbers than sheer chance MisterP Mar 2015 #20
In 2013, Likud Beiteinu won 31 seats,(23.32%) which gave them the most seats. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #52
Hit 'im again, hit 'im again! Harder! Harder!! Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #21
maybe they'll elect a peacemonger. barbtries Mar 2015 #22
Now wouldn't that be grand Caretha Mar 2015 #23
Still awfully close zentrum Mar 2015 #24
Why are those other Israeli parties being anti-Semitic? ybbor Mar 2015 #25
I'm surprised the GOP hasn't offered to run the election Ilsa Mar 2015 #28
no worries father founding Mar 2015 #35
Well, they (the GOP) could at least offer lots of experience in how to buy an election. erronis Mar 2015 #43
this is a load of rubbish shaayecanaan Mar 2015 #29
Although you are correct on most things - Yesh Atid is not aligned with Netanayahu - karynnj Mar 2015 #51
Yesh are still giving supply to Netanyahu's government shaayecanaan Mar 2015 #60
The government right now sabbat hunter Mar 2015 #65
After his stunt in Congress, I hope he loses big. It'd be a sign of change. freshwest Mar 2015 #31
Bibi's address to Congress and the 47 Senators...... the timing is not coincidental Sheepshank Mar 2015 #33
problem is that they need 61 seats. Mosby Mar 2015 #36
I'd be a dancing if that comes true! n/t bobGandolf Mar 2015 #37
Maybe if he loses on his own turf... Dopers_Greed Mar 2015 #38
We have a POTUS, they have a POS......nt wolfie001 Mar 2015 #39
I'm thinking Bibi is like the Titanic running full speed ahead despite the warnings.... LynneSin Mar 2015 #40
Please, please, please....let him lose. Liberal Lantern Mar 2015 #41
i hope so. Israel needs a peacemaker and bibi is not the man. spanone Mar 2015 #42
Oh, I hope, I hope, I hope! LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #44
The republicans seriously fucked up on this one. Initech Mar 2015 #45
If they do lose it will be the best thing for Israel and the world. herding cats Mar 2015 #46
The best thing for America, too. randome Mar 2015 #63
Bibi done a bad, bad thing... Blue Owl Mar 2015 #47
I got that! n/t. bvf Mar 2015 #53
Oh please! arikara Mar 2015 #48
LOL, Hey Boehner, what is the opposite of coattails? FSogol Mar 2015 #49
A wedgie. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #67
Oh please oh please oh please..... Adrahil Mar 2015 #50
+1 hrmjustin Mar 2015 #57
Yay! TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #54
Do they use Diebold voting machines? Chakaconcarne Mar 2015 #55
The Herzog family iandhr Mar 2015 #58
Do they use e-voting machines? sulphurdunn Mar 2015 #59
Whats the Hebrew words for "Party of Stupid"? HoosierCowboy Mar 2015 #62
56 seats sabbat hunter Mar 2015 #64
I guess it's time to bomb Beirut,......AGAIN. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #66
Do they use Diebold? n/t FourScore Mar 2015 #68
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. The sooner
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:53 PM
Mar 2015

he no longer has presence on the international stage, the better for the security of both Israel and the US.

Response to Aerows (Reply #3)

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
5. This guy was an anachronism back in the 90's.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:56 PM
Mar 2015

It's incredible that he's even around at this point.

A measure, I guess, of how stagnant the thinking is over there.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
34. Cotton, and his 47 mindless drones, just to name a few.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:56 AM
Mar 2015

The House? It is so full of hot air and bluster, that I will be opening a 35 yr old bottle of scotch when the number of times they vote to repeal ACA reaches 100. Which might be in a couple of weeks.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Three points
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:04 PM
Mar 2015

1) It would be good for Israel
2) It would be good for America
3) I liked Israel better when it had a Labour government.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. YESSSS!!!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:06 PM
Mar 2015

Get rid of that POS war monger! RWing assholes are all the same... no matter what country they are in.

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
32. No doubt
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:39 AM
Mar 2015

No doubt this is what many of us think, but it may be a bit "over the top" to put in writing.

I just think if troll right-wingers wanted to discredit DU they would use posts like this to call us extremists.

But I'm not gonna be so presumptuous as to "alert" the post, I'm sure williesgirl knows what is best. "Over the top" is a very subjective standard.

the old joke comes to mind:

In the courtroom, the defendant on the witness stand asks, "Judge, what if I were to call you an asshole?"
The judge replied, "I'd lock you up for contempt of court!"
The defendant replied, "What if I don't say it but just think it?"
The judge replied, "That's okay."
So the defendant says, "then let the record reflect that I think the judge is an asshole."

tanyev

(42,589 posts)
12. Hey, maybe a signed letter from a bunch of U.S. Republicans
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:09 PM
Mar 2015

telling Israelis how they should vote would be helpful.


brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
16. It's not that simple...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Mar 2015

neither faction will come in with a solid majority. My understanding is that the President calls on one side or the other to try to form a Parliamentary majority, and could arguably start with Netanyahu on the claim that his coalition would be more stable.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
17. Three Cheers to Israel, they are smart to get rid of the awful man!!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:26 PM
Mar 2015


Bibi, has been wrong, all along on foreign policy, Obama has got
right, and we trust Obama motives, I dont' trust Bibi or the GOP
after the speech stunt

calimary

(81,383 posts)
27. Welcome to DU, lewebley3
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:10 PM
Mar 2015

Glad you're here! I've never trusted the GOP, but now we know they're TRAITORS!!!!! Thank you, New York Daily News! I am relishing this!

And as for bibi-baby, as a mother, I hate to see bad behavior rewarded - or reinforced. That conniving back-stabbing showboating stunt last week very nicely stuck a shiv in our President's back, stuck another one in our Secretary of State's back, and conspired with the party that's NOT in the White House to use OUR Congress chambers as a stage for his own political self-aggrandizement. This is how you treat a friend, bibi?

If he fails in his reelection bid then it's a good lesson. Which I'd bet he would not learn. I'd be most interested to see what kind of excuse he'd make, on which (or on whom) to blame his next failure.

For netanyahu, I've got only two words: Screw You. Or three words: Screw You, Pal. I wouldn't have watched that speech if he'd paid me.

Oh, and btw - as to my earlier point...

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MisterP

(23,730 posts)
20. hey, back in '13 he only got 23% of the vote--no better numbers than sheer chance
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:02 PM
Mar 2015

it's Poisson-perfect

plus having 90% of his money (and voters, as whispered) come from the US

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
52. In 2013, Likud Beiteinu won 31 seats,(23.32%) which gave them the most seats.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:34 PM
Mar 2015

And the chance to form a government with other parties. Being a multi-party parliamentary system, if no party wins an outright majority, the party with the most seats gets to try and form a government with other parties.

Elections in Israel January 2013
January 23: The Central Election Committee has released the final results of the elections, and the allocation of seats in the 19th Knesset:

Likud Beiteinu - 31 (23.32%)
Yesh Atid - 19 (14.32%)
Labor - 15 (11.39%)
Habayit Hayehudi - 12 (9.12%)
Shas - 11 (8.75%)
United Torah Judaism - 7 (5.17%)
Hatnuah - 6 (4.99%)
Meretz - 6 (4.54%)
United Arab List - Ta'al - 4 (3.65%)
Hadash - 4 (2.99%)
Balad - 3 (2.56%)
Kadima - 2 (2.10%)
According to the Central Election Committee, 67.79% of Israelis exercised their right to vote. Out of some 3.834 million votes cast, only about 40,000 were disqualified. Voter turnout was the highest since 1999.


At this time, The Zionist Union is Predicted to win 24 seats and Likud 21. If this happens, Herzog will have a chance to form a government by inviting other parties to work with the labor.

Hadash, a left wing communist party based consisting mostly of Israeli Arabs and other Israeli Arab parties are predicted to pick up seats. It appears that the left in Israel is gaining strength. We will see if that is true after the election.
 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
23. Now wouldn't that be grand
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:38 PM
Mar 2015

That would shut up the damn 47 Republican traitorous warmongers....

Here's hoping they're next.

ybbor

(1,555 posts)
25. Why are those other Israeli parties being anti-Semitic?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:00 PM
Mar 2015

Don't they realize that they doing so by criticizing Bibi?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
28. I'm surprised the GOP hasn't offered to run the election
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:26 PM
Mar 2015

for him, including bringing in the corruptible electronic voting machines.

erronis

(15,314 posts)
43. Well, they (the GOP) could at least offer lots of experience in how to buy an election.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:57 PM
Mar 2015

Perhaps poor mr. adelman would lend a few 100MM to bilbi. The kochsters could kick in too. Fux (murduch and ails) have some spare MM rattling around.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
29. this is a load of rubbish
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:40 PM
Mar 2015
Haaretz notes that if the Zionist Union joins forces with Yesh Atid and smaller left-leaning and Arab parties, it could form a government with 56 seats. Combining with smaller right-rightist and ultra-Orthodox parties, Netanyahu is on track to assemble 55 seats at most.


The arithmetic isnt even right. There are 120 seats in the Knesset. Obviously 56 isn't a majority. Yesh atid is currently aligned with netanyahu and will likely remain so.

The essential premise is right in that the netanyahu might lose power if yesh atid sided with the left and the Arabs. However what the article fails to note is that no Jewish party has ever formed a coalition with the Arabs in Israel's history. Even relying on Arabs to get a bill through the Knesset is strictly taboo.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
51. Although you are correct on most things - Yesh Atid is not aligned with Netanayahu -
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:31 PM
Mar 2015

He kicked Lapid out of his government at the same time he kicked Livni out.

I read the Haaretz article and Salon misstated what they stated. They were speaking of how many MK might recommend each leader. (The reason it does not add to 120 is that Kahlon may not recommend either (and at any rate has not declared what side they are on.)

The Israeli media has been crazy - and that article was an example of that in the part where they spoke of coalitions.

Here's a link that seems to explain things well -- if it is accurate. http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.646418

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
60. Yesh are still giving supply to Netanyahu's government
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:28 PM
Mar 2015

and as such are still part of the government, even though Lapid got booted out as finance minister.

sabbat hunter

(6,831 posts)
65. The government right now
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:05 AM
Mar 2015

is a caretaker one. once elections are declared, everything pretty much freezes with the coalitions.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
31. After his stunt in Congress, I hope he loses big. It'd be a sign of change.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:57 AM
Mar 2015


We need a change, too. Want this clown to give up the speaker's mallet, too.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
33. Bibi's address to Congress and the 47 Senators...... the timing is not coincidental
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

the One-Two punch seems to have failed in more that one area.

It's like they are trying to beat up Obama with a feather...from a dove.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
40. I'm thinking Bibi is like the Titanic running full speed ahead despite the warnings....
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:51 PM
Mar 2015

and there is a GIANT iceberg about to sink him.

Karma is a bee-yotch!

Liberal Lantern

(22 posts)
41. Please, please, please....let him lose.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:52 PM
Mar 2015

I can't think of anything that would make me happier for what he was allowed to do because of the GOP Congress.

herding cats

(19,566 posts)
46. If they do lose it will be the best thing for Israel and the world.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:37 PM
Mar 2015

Netanyahu's Likud party want war with Iran, and too many of the politicians in the U.S. agree with him on the matter. It's only a matter of time before they prevail. One less warmongering political party is always a good.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
63. The best thing for America, too.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

Because the GOP will get the blame.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

arikara

(5,562 posts)
48. Oh please!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:04 PM
Mar 2015

Make it so. The world needs to see the end of that prick, along with Canada's Stephen Harper and many other lovers of mr. Bebe.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
58. The Herzog family
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:13 PM
Mar 2015

Is one of the founding families of Israel. A Israeli news paper said they were the Israeli Kennedy's Just for a side note

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