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Hillary Clinton's reference to personal communications from my husband and me on Tuesday stirred confusion.Mar 11, 2015 11:06 AM EDT
Bill Clinton is firmly in the luddite camp when it comes to e-mail. The former president has only sent two messages ever using the technology, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday, citing spokesman Matt McKenna.
So when Hillary Clinton described her husband's involvement in her private e-mail server setup at a press conference Tuesday, it left some confused.
The server contains personal communications from my husband and me, she said. The system we used was set up for President Clinton's office, she added. So, I think that the use of that server, which started with my husband, certainly proved to be effective and secure.
Hillary Clinton's reference to a system for her husband's office doesn't clearly conflict with the Journal's report that after leaving office, Mr. Clinton established his own domain that staff use@presidentclinton.com.
But some took from my husband and me to mean messages between the former president and first lady. It appears at least one Clinton is not telling the whole truth, wrote the Washington Examiner. She runs into the brick wall of her husbands own denial, wrote the National Review. Does Bill Clinton email? It depends whom you ask, read a headline at the Hill.
Asked whether Bill Clinton e-mailed with his wife at her e-mail address, McKenna told Bloomberg he did not.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-11/bill-clinton-didn-t-e-mail-with-hillary-ex-president-s-spokesman-says
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Yay!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)e-mailed each other. I have yet to e-mail my husband and we have had account on the same server for quite some time. He has never e-mailed me. If we want to communicate, we phone each other or save conversation until we are in the same room as one another. I don't see a huge mystery here. They both have accounts on the same server.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)She stated that the server was originally set up for her husband. But, the email account was actually created for her the day she went before the Senate confirmation committee.
Her explanation looks even more suspicious after the specifics are examined. At the same time, this issue snowballs and likely won't melt before Election Day. Thanks, Hill.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)is distorting what she said.
She did not at any point say she and Bill emailed each other. Not that it's anyone's business if she did, nor would the contents of any of those emails be of public interest.
This is just bullshit.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Clintonemail.com was registered the day she went before the Senate confirmation committee.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)setting up a legal argument that will stall and delay turning over the server for forensic analysis. That may be what her lawyers advise, but I believe any delay in turning over the server is political poison. It makes it appear that she's covering something up, and that's what will cost her.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)carry out her duties as Secretary of State are public records. And she's turning them over.
She has no obligation to turn over her private email server. It's her private property, not the government's.
The government takes physical possession of servers in cases involving crime, not made up bullshit nontroversies.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)failed to timely turn the emails over as required by law. She's going to be found noncompliant at some stage, and that may be viewed as disqualifying for her Presidential candidacy.
Time to find another candidate.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)from the very beginning in '09. She should simply turn over her servers to the State Dept and let the agency deal with separating the wheat from thr chaff, and fending off the partisan subpoenas. That would be what I would advise she does if I were working her campaign. If I were her lawyer, that option would appal me. We'll see who's really running things.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The state department doesn't even have the technical chops to preserve its own emails.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)If she did that, Hillary can still save herself from the Nixon paradox: it's the appearance of a coverup that gets you in the end, even if all evidence of the crime has been erased by Rosemary.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Protection of purely private communications is a valid ground for an agency to withhold records from a committee. But, if there are unrecoverable erased emails, she may have truly screwed herself.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)This is so idiotic.
Even people with state.gov addresses can use private email to conduct government business, and we have to take their word for it that they don't or that if they do, they've turned them all over.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)chances of being elected President. If she continues to resist full disclosure, she's going to go down.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)which can subpoena them.
So, no, she'd be an idiot to turn them over to the US government.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)We know that the Dept's own obligations under the Federal Records Act does not extend to collecting and maintaining purely private communications. If the State Dept. were to take custody over the servers and all existing materials, it need not turn over any data or communications that it finds to be privileged or protected as private under Fed. Rule of Civil Procedure 45(e): https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_45
(A) Information Withheld. A person withholding subpoenaed information under a claim that it is privileged or subject to protection as trial-preparation material must:
(i) expressly make the claim; and
(ii) describe the nature of the withheld documents, communications, or tangible things in a manner that, without revealing information itself privileged or protected, will enable the parties to assess the claim.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)blah blah blah cover up blah blah blah vote to hold Kerry in contempt blah blah blah
leveymg
(36,418 posts)the General. Politically, it will be a lot better if HRC gives up the servers voluntarily to the agency, and lets the Department fight the legal battles. I hope you see the logic in that.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)See, p.11, .pdf
[PDF]When Congress Comes Calling - The Constitution Project
www.constitutionproject.org/.../when-congress-come...
Constitution Project
B. The Power of Congress Over Executive Branch Agencies . ... The Permissible Scope of a Subpoena . ... The Pertinency of the Subpoena to the Investigation .
The subject matter of an investigation may be shown through a variety of sources: (1)
the declaration of the question under inquiry found in the authorizing rule or resolution of the committee or
subcommittees, (2) the introductory remarks of the committee chair or other members, (3) the response of the
chair to the witness pertinency objection, (4) the question itself, or (5) the nature of the proceedings.47
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Would that be private or public?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)The important thing is that all communications are independently reviewed and reported on. If that's a higher standard, than so be it. After all, she's the one who wants to be trusted enough to be the party's candidate for President, we presume.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Just as it would be private had she sent it from her personal account while using only an official email account for official business.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)interest but private.
If you want Clinton Global Initiative emails (if they exist) you'd need a contemporaneous subpoena. Otherwise they are private records that she has no obligation to preserve, let alone turn over.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)mumble at each other over breakfast or right before dropping off to sleep? Why would married couples need to email each other when they can just tell the other one when they see them or call each other?