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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:46 AM Mar 2015

Tehran Tom Cotton was Bribed almost a Million Bucks to Send the Iran Letter.

https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2015/03/12/tehran-tom-cotton-was-bribed-almost-a-million-bucks-to-send-the-iran-letter/

Source info at the link.

Yep. Tehran Tom got a ton of “contributions” from agents of a foreign power to betray his country. He and the rest of the Teapublican Treason Team all took Israel’s side against America’s, but Tehran Tom the Traitor Tot got paid nearly a million dollars to do so. Perhaps the other Teapubbies got such bribes as well, but we have the goods on Tommie:

Kristol’s Emergency Committee for Israel gave Tom Cotton nearly $1 million in his race for the Senate just five months ago, Eli Clifton reported. “Cotton received $960,250 in supportive campaign advertising in the last month".
Cotton also got $165,000 from Elliott ManagementPaul Singer’s hedge fund. Singer is the billionaire who is trying to stop Obama’s Iran talks (Clifton’s reporting again).


Notice the pattern, Gentle Reader: money comes in, and a letter goes out. It is bribery, plain and simple.

Perhaps the other 46 Senators who tried to kneecap the Prexy with their illegal letter weren’t likewise bought by agents of a foreign nation, which is scant mitigation for their crimes. Scant but something. Tehran Tom was bought and paid for by another government than ours: and their interests are not the same as ours.

What else do we need to prosecute this f***ing traitor? This ain’t just the usual Racist Repub hatred of our black President: it is clear-cut espionage, betrayal of our nation, Judas-like behavior (without Mr. Iscariot’s subsequent remorse).

Tehran Tom the Traitor Tot. Think he stashed any of that million clams away to flee to Israel if the cops come knocking? This writer bets he did.
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Tehran Tom Cotton was Bribed almost a Million Bucks to Send the Iran Letter. (Original Post) riqster Mar 2015 OP
Plutocrats for PNAC Octafish Mar 2015 #1
This is one thing that was predicted after Citizens United: riqster Mar 2015 #2
Absolutely True. Octafish Mar 2015 #4
"Money doesn't need a passport to cross borders." slumcamper Mar 2015 #10
Money may or may not be speech, but it IS definitely a weapon. riqster Mar 2015 #23
No honest person can claim they believe money is speech, in reality. closeupready Mar 2015 #86
Tell it to the Roberts Five. riqster Mar 2015 #90
He said no "honest" person. Try to keep up! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #105
D'oh! riqster Mar 2015 #106
The last couple of decades have seen the weaponization of both hifiguy Mar 2015 #115
True. riqster Mar 2015 #117
Repuglikans are winning the arms race in weapons-grade stoopidity. lastlib Mar 2015 #121
They really know how to fight dirty - wonder why they have a bad rep. erronis Mar 2015 #28
and there you have it.. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #30
That's precisely where it's at! 2naSalit Mar 2015 #60
Totally. That's why we have to do everything we can to destroy Citizens United. calimary Mar 2015 #87
Finally people notice who ALL Republicans kiss up to Protalker Mar 2015 #122
Flaw in your hypothesis: "People notice." Most probably won't, sad to say. n/t Beartracks Mar 2015 #124
he must be privy to some eternal life giving elixer hopemountain Mar 2015 #129
_/\_/\_This_/\_/\_ Scuba Mar 2015 #27
Can still see corrupt 'Justice' Alito at SOTU shaking his head as Obama looked right at him years ago and said exactly that. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #36
And mouthing the words "not true", IIRC. riqster Mar 2015 #41
Yup. Government of the highest bidder. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #44
And the lowest of ethics. riqster Mar 2015 #48
Republicans in SC sold our country.Republicans have been doing this forever. FDR stopped them once. The Wielding Truth Mar 2015 #120
True. riqster Mar 2015 #125
You know Jeb Bush signed on with PNAC alfredo Mar 2015 #8
Jebthro's still sunning his pimply backsides for the big PNAC coining out to cash in party. Octafish Mar 2015 #15
The neocons need to be persona non grata. They put another alfredo Mar 2015 #88
Not until we can get some traction in the media. riqster Mar 2015 #91
Maybe the million dollars from Kristol and other foreign agents alfredo Mar 2015 #112
We can but hope. riqster Mar 2015 #113
Not holding my breath. alfredo Mar 2015 #127
Nor I. Better to use my breath to spread such news as this. riqster Mar 2015 #134
BTW, Now Randy Paul is trying to make us believe they were alfredo Mar 2015 #139
... riqster Mar 2015 #140
And yet people don't ever seem to wake up and want to fight these huge crimes. Rex Mar 2015 #12
That's why a Hillary Clinton candidacy would be problematic for me. Octafish Mar 2015 #14
Austerity started with Reagan IMO. Rex Mar 2015 #16
True. riqster Mar 2015 #24
Like plane crashes, or some too-early illness, or at the hands of some deranged lunatic. erronis Mar 2015 #29
What about Breitbart? LOL! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #107
That is a good point! Rex Mar 2015 #108
Both parties are rife with corrupt politicians who do the bidding of their campaign benefactors! Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #34
Been talking about CFR since 1975. Octafish Mar 2015 #63
S'truth. Money has a corrosive effect. riqster Mar 2015 #95
What? MADem Mar 2015 #49
Excellent breakdown. demigoddess Mar 2015 #56
There's an implied and inadvertent sexism at play, there, too. MADem Mar 2015 #58
"Cookies". Ferchrissakes. riqster Mar 2015 #96
She was a Senator who could've brought up Bush and Cheney lying America into war. Octafish Mar 2015 #62
Don't be absurd. You think a president can "undo" a pardon? MADem Mar 2015 #64
If I was president, I'd be damn sure to not include any of those turds on my team. Octafish Mar 2015 #66
Wait a minute--now you're changing the subject and racing decades into the future. MADem Mar 2015 #72
I'm not selling anything. Octafish Mar 2015 #81
Just as well, then. You're not making the sale. nt MADem Mar 2015 #82
Tell you what I think... Octafish Mar 2015 #84
I do. MADem Mar 2015 #132
When Reeps control the media, such outcomes are to be expected. riqster Mar 2015 #53
mahalo riqster Cha Mar 2015 #3
Back atcha, Cha! riqster Mar 2015 #21
Kick! Cha Mar 2015 #22
! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #5
I keep finding out that I am not yet cynical enough. riqster Mar 2015 #42
THIS angrychair Mar 2015 #50
LoL! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #85
cynicism is the hopemountain Mar 2015 #128
That's easy for you to say... Javaman Mar 2015 #138
om..... hopemountain Mar 2015 #145
We need at least two witnesses to testify in open court. gordianot Mar 2015 #6
Two very brave witnesses. riqster Mar 2015 #25
We need to follow the money. Did he take money from alfredo Mar 2015 #89
"Tehran Tom the Traitor Tot." SunSeeker Mar 2015 #7
I stole both from other DUers. riqster Mar 2015 #20
Imagine what these whores would do with a billion dollar "contribution". tridim Mar 2015 #9
But....money doesn't cause corruption! Stonepounder Mar 2015 #13
Ah yes, the Roberts Five. riqster Mar 2015 #94
Long on flaming rehetoric, short on facts Android3.14 Mar 2015 #11
when you take into account the fact that corporations actually seem to be governments niyad Mar 2015 #40
Government by the rich, for the rich, and f*** the rest of us. riqster Mar 2015 #43
exactly niyad Mar 2015 #45
I agree, buuuuut Android3.14 Mar 2015 #65
I agree with part of your post. riqster Mar 2015 #98
A Lobbying Group serving the interests of a foreign government paid a million bucks MADem Mar 2015 #52
Oh, but that isn't "evidence". riqster Mar 2015 #71
Well, I'd say there's close to a million pieces of 'evidence' there...but that's just me. nt MADem Mar 2015 #73
Me also. riqster Mar 2015 #75
The across the board corporate media silence and/or deflection tells me they too have been bribed. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #17
Yep. The Golden Rule: riqster Mar 2015 #19
the corporate media silence is deafening.. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #32
Kardashian! Benghazi! Storm! Lewinsky! riqster Mar 2015 #47
HRC e-mails, Clinton Foundation donations from Iliyah Mar 2015 #78
And make lots of money on the war machine while waiting for Rapture. riqster Mar 2015 #80
Oh, nos! We can't let those warheads fall into the hands of a bunch of fanatics!!! erronis Mar 2015 #35
The Revelation of Saint Strangelove riqster Mar 2015 #38
I'm curious - are there any new saints if nobody's left to canonize them? erronis Mar 2015 #59
My ancestors barely survived the tender mercies of the R.C. church... riqster Mar 2015 #74
Rising Star for the American Taliban! Cryptoad Mar 2015 #18
And the Kleptocracy. riqster Mar 2015 #100
Lobbyists are hardly new leftynyc Mar 2015 #26
you hard of hearing and blind? chillfactor Mar 2015 #33
Not at all leftynyc Mar 2015 #39
An organization can have an address anywhere. riqster Mar 2015 #46
Am I stuttering? leftynyc Mar 2015 #55
No, but you are attempting to reframe the discussion. riqster Mar 2015 #57
Uh - no leftynyc Mar 2015 #69
Distraction 101. riqster Mar 2015 #76
LOL - asking you to back up leftynyc Mar 2015 #83
I'd say the evidence is in the name of the organization that gave Traitor Tom the dough. nt MADem Mar 2015 #67
Really? leftynyc Mar 2015 #70
Quelle surprise! Rightyny...er, "lefty"nyc...rushing to defend Tom Cotton n/t brentspeak Mar 2015 #130
Where am I defending Cotton? leftynyc Mar 2015 #133
"Lobbyists are hardly new" brentspeak Mar 2015 #142
Horseshit leftynyc Mar 2015 #143
And you STILL leftynyc Mar 2015 #144
If you look at the list of his contributors on "followthemoney.org", almost all of those at the top. George II Mar 2015 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #37
And this is not treason? ananda Mar 2015 #51
Without prosecution, treason becomes acceptable. riqster Mar 2015 #54
this is one thing only angrychair Mar 2015 #61
Yep. John Ashcroft and other Repubs are heavy into that crap. riqster Mar 2015 #68
Petition - We the people.. - PASS THIS ON! SPREAD IT AROUND! - Over 224k signers in TWO DAYS! vkkv Mar 2015 #77
I signed. Thanks for the post! riqster Mar 2015 #79
Sure smells like quid pro quo all right. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #92
Yep. A million smackers worth. riqster Mar 2015 #93
Great post. Thanks! greatlaurel Mar 2015 #97
Lots of people make seemingly inexplicable choices. riqster Mar 2015 #99
Guilt by association for the other 46 Politicalboi Mar 2015 #101
Perhaps not financially. riqster Mar 2015 #104
This is BIG! yellowwoodII Mar 2015 #102
There are embedded links at the blog site in the OP. riqster Mar 2015 #103
Bill Kristol should be arrested. How is this not treason? Initech Mar 2015 #109
IOKIYAR. riqster Mar 2015 #111
The pro-Israel lobby at work: "Let's you and him fight." Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #110
What a surprise. hifiguy Mar 2015 #114
Everybody but the Roberts Five thunk it. riqster Mar 2015 #118
Dang I was hoping you got a Defense Contractor bribe daredtowork Mar 2015 #116
Looking for that, too. riqster Mar 2015 #119
Paul Singers is an unkind cut DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #123
To quote the Hangover: "Quid pro quo, douchebags." Initech Mar 2015 #126
That was a lot of "quo" for Tehran Tom. riqster Mar 2015 #135
Yup. Definitely $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Initech Mar 2015 #141
''What else do we need to prosecute this f***ing traitor?'' DeSwiss Mar 2015 #131
Some actual law enforcement of Republicans is LONG OVERDUE. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #136
Damn right. riqster Mar 2015 #137

riqster

(13,986 posts)
2. This is one thing that was predicted after Citizens United:
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:05 AM
Mar 2015

That foreign interests would gain even more influence over domestic politics.

Happened. As predicted.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Absolutely True.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:25 AM
Mar 2015

Money doesn't need a passport to cross borders. To help spread the PNAC message, Kristol's got partners (or "associates" for legal reasons) from Rupert Murdoch to Victoria Nuland.

http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/project_for_the_new_american_century

Wars without end for profits without cease is win!

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
10. "Money doesn't need a passport to cross borders."
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:47 AM
Mar 2015

Precisely! The OP of the NYT had a very interesting piece on this yesterday. Entitled "Is It Sheldon Adelson’s World?" the piece noted how Adelson and wife were present in the House balcony when Bibi spoke (his wife's purse actually fell from the balcony and hit NE Rep. Brad Ashford (D), who was reelected in 2014 in spite of Adelson's $$$ aid to his opponent).

While interesting, even moreso is this nugget: "Israel has much stricter laws on individuals donating to political campaigns, so Adelson got around that in 2007 by founding a free, giveaway newspaper in Israel — Israel Hayom — whose sole purpose is to back Netanyahu, attack his enemies in politics and the media, and enforce a far-right political agenda to prevent any Israeli territorial compromise on the West Bank (which, in time, could undermine Israel as a Jewish democracy). Graphically attractive, Israel Hayom is now the biggest-circulation daily in Israel. Precisely because it is free, it is putting a heavy strain on competitors, like Yediot and Haaretz, which both charge and are not pro-Netanyahu."

It doesn't stop there. "The Washington Post said that last November at a conference of the Israel American Council, a lobbying group Adelson has funded, he joked in a public discussion with another wealthy Israeli: “Why don’t you and I go after The New York Times?” Told it was family owned, Adelson quipped, “There is only one way to fight it: money.”

There you have it. There is little doubt we are living in an oligarchy.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
86. No honest person can claim they believe money is speech, in reality.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:32 PM
Mar 2015

And certainly in the context of politics, it's outright bribery.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
115. The last couple of decades have seen the weaponization of both
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:27 PM
Mar 2015

money and stupidity. It's a frightening thing.

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
121. Repuglikans are winning the arms race in weapons-grade stoopidity.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:27 PM
Mar 2015

Voters need to take off their blinders and see what these basturds are doing to them!

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
60. That's precisely where it's at!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

It shouldn't be too long now where bullets will also be considered free speech and be afforded more freedom and protection from the citizenry than we have against our oppressors.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
87. Totally. That's why we have to do everything we can to destroy Citizens United.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:37 PM
Mar 2015

And roll it back. And bury it under a toxic waste dump.

This is supposed to be a democracy, where we're all equal, monied or not. It's not supposed to make a difference. I would say to those on the receiving end of this lavishness - um - it's not your money that's going to impress St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. Out in front of there, we are ALL the same, ALL equal. Rich, poor, black, white, brown, short, tall, and regardless of belief system.

John Prine once said it - "your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore." And Jesus Himself went beyond that to the very most basic point of all: your money will get you into Heaven as soon as a camel can go through the eye of a needle.

Protalker

(418 posts)
122. Finally people notice who ALL Republicans kiss up to
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:34 PM
Mar 2015

Sheldon Adelson will get the war he has been spoiling for

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
36. Can still see corrupt 'Justice' Alito at SOTU shaking his head as Obama looked right at him years ago and said exactly that.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:05 AM
Mar 2015

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
120. Republicans in SC sold our country.Republicans have been doing this forever. FDR stopped them once.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:35 PM
Mar 2015

We must now fight and stop these enemies of democracy.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Jebthro's still sunning his pimply backsides for the big PNAC coining out to cash in party.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:01 AM
Mar 2015

The ones who are still in government service bridge his Poppy's days to the present. From ISP's RightWeb, One Big Time PNAC Family:

Victoria Nuland's spouse: Robert Kagan

Robert Kangan's brother: Frederick Kagan

Frederick Kagan's spouse: Kimberly Kagan

Brilliant people, big ideas, etc. The thing is, that's a lot of PNAC. Jebthro will fit "Right" in.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
88. The neocons need to be persona non grata. They put another
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:47 PM
Mar 2015

country above their own. Even if that country is an ally, their agenda is not ours.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. And yet people don't ever seem to wake up and want to fight these huge crimes.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:52 AM
Mar 2015

Just let repukes off the hook, decade after decade after decade.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. That's why a Hillary Clinton candidacy would be problematic for me.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Her husband let Bush 41 off the hook.

Clinton's presidency was largely a time of austerity for the 99-percent.

She and President Barack Obama let Bush 43 off the hook.

Obama's presidency has largely been a time of austerity for the 99-percent.

You know who it hasn't been a time of austerity for?

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Austerity started with Reagan IMO.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:01 AM
Mar 2015

UGH. Gramm is still alive...sigh...evil seems to live forever while only the good die young.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
29. Like plane crashes, or some too-early illness, or at the hands of some deranged lunatic.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:50 AM
Mar 2015

Mossad and the KGB have nothing on the operatives in our borders.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
108. That is a good point!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 03:26 PM
Mar 2015

However his evil as fuck spirit lives on at his website. So he is still alive, spiritually.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
34. Both parties are rife with corrupt politicians who do the bidding of their campaign benefactors!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:55 AM
Mar 2015

Until we wake up and see that most of the countries problems are caused by the legalized bribery which affects almost every issue we care about, we will get more of the same! We can no longer just vote in more Democrats and expect things to get much better. Both the media and banking oligopolies need to be broken up and campaign contributions outlawed. It won't happen without a lot of us willing to become active in the fight!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
63. Been talking about CFR since 1975.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:03 PM
Mar 2015

Campaign Finance Reform.

Every step forward was accompanied by two steps back.

Then came Citizens United and... All. Bets. Are. Off.



And politics became a "sure thing" for the players. Again.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. What?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:41 AM
Mar 2015

What should POTUS Clinton have "done" with Bush 41? And why are you blaming a wife for the behavior of the husband, anyway? Do you blame Laura Bush for Dubya's missteps?

I remember an amazing recovery during the Clinton years.

And who's "she?" And what power did "she" have to "let Bush 43 off the hook?" Did "she" do a tour as Sheriff of Crawford while no one was looking?

If you're going to fling charges, they need to be clear and fair. You're blaming a wife for her husband's actions, and being vague about unstated crimes.

Meh.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. There's an implied and inadvertent sexism at play, there, too.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:59 AM
Mar 2015

I don't hear of any other "political wives" getting blamed for their husband's conduct, certainly.

When was the last time Mrs. Harry Reid was taken to task for something HER husband did?

HRC is berated constantly, just for being Hillary. It's obvious, and it's wrong.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
62. She was a Senator who could've brought up Bush and Cheney lying America into war.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

Or anything else she wanted to talk about. At least, the Republican Senators do. For instance, when President Obama does something they don't like they write a letter.

As for her husband: He had Bush 41 and the whole neocon cabal dead to rights. Somehow, they slipped through the net.



Obama: Beware the Lessons of '93

Barack Obama seeks a new era of bipartisanship, but he should take heed of what happened to the last Democrat in the White House – Bill Clinton – in 1993 when he sought to appease Republicans by shelving pending investigations into Reagan-Bush-I-era wrongdoing and hoped for some

By Robert Parry
November 11, 2008

EXCERPT...

Bush also had sabotaged the investigation by pardoning six Iran-Contra defendants on Christmas Eve 1992, possibly the first presidential pardon ever issued to protect the same President from criminal exposure.

In late 1992, Congress also was investigating Bush’s alleged role in secretly aiding Iraq’s Saddam Hussein during and after his eight-year-long war with Iran. Representative Henry Gonzalez, the aging chairman of the House Banking Committee, had led the charge in exposing intricate financial schemes that the Reagan-Bush-I administrations had employed to assist Hussein.

There also were allegations of indirect U.S. military aid through third countries, claims that Bush and other Republicans emphatically denied.

Lesser known investigations were examining two other sets of alleged wrongdoing: the so-called October Surprise issue (accusations that Bush and other Republicans had interfered with Jimmy Carter’s hostage negotiations with Iran during the 1980 campaign) and the Passportgate affair (evidence that Bush operatives had improperly searched Clinton’s passport file in 1992, looking for dirt that could be used to discredit his patriotism and secure reelection for Bush).

All told, the four sets of allegations, if true, would paint an unflattering portrait of the 12-year Republican rule: two illegal dirty tricks (October Surprise and Passportgate) book-ending ill-conceived national security schemes in the Middle East (Iran-Contra and Iraqgate).

Had the full stories been told the American people might have perceived the legacies of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush quite differently than they do today.

But the Clinton administration and congressional Democrats dropped all four investigations beginning in early 1993, either through benign neglect – by failing to hold hearings and keeping the issues alive in the news media – or by actively closing the door on investigative leads.

CONTINUED...

https://consortiumnews.com/2008/111108.html





So, yeah. There's that. And all the dead people since.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
64. Don't be absurd. You think a president can "undo" a pardon?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:04 PM
Mar 2015

Go back to civics class.

And a junior senator in a seniority system that was managed--quite rigidly, too--by the late Robert Byrd wasn't going to do anything that didn't get his up-check.

The Senate today is far less rigid than it was in those days.

So yeah. There's THAT. But never mind--blame Hillary, because she's someone's wife that you didn't happen to like. That's what it comes across like--and if that's not your intent, you need to do cleanup on your comments.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
66. If I was president, I'd be damn sure to not include any of those turds on my team.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:07 PM
Mar 2015

Same if I was Secretary of State cough Kagans.

From ISP's RightWeb, one happy Big Time PNAC Family:

Victoria Nuland's spouse: Robert Kagan

Robert Kangan's brother: Frederick Kagan

Frederick Kagan's spouse: Kimberly Kagan

Brilliant people, big ideas, etc. The thing is, that's a lot of PNAC.

Please don't get mad, MADem. I didn't pardon anybody.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
72. Wait a minute--now you're changing the subject and racing decades into the future.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:14 PM
Mar 2015

A minute ago you were berating Bill Clinton -- and his WIFE, the First Lady--for not taking Bush's cronies to task, while flashing the front page of the NYT showing that Bush had PARDONED said cronies.

So, again, what was he to do? Lash them with a wet noodle? Point at them and holler "Nanny, nanny boo boo?"

Vague insinuations (and your insinuations are painfully so) and slimy little comments that go nowhere just don't fly with me. You've not acquitted yourself well at all with this "indictment" of Hillary for being a married woman and a freshman Senator in an entrenched (at the time) system.

You haven't made the sale.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
81. I'm not selling anything.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:59 PM
Mar 2015

I'm demonstrating what I look for in a candidate: Integrity.

You can call it slimy if you want.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
132. I do.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:10 AM
Mar 2015

I also don't make vague insinuations about candidates I don't prefer in order to make the ones I like look "better," either. That's just not cool.

I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee in 2016. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
128. cynicism is the
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:58 PM
Mar 2015

enzyme which releases bile and bitterness...best to avoid it. keep a healthy perspective by not dwelling too much on the cynics corrosive points of view. they accomplish nothing more than to continually stir the pot. it is never over for them.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
89. We need to follow the money. Did he take money from
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:53 PM
Mar 2015

foreign, or from agents acting for a foreign nation?

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
13. But....money doesn't cause corruption!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:53 AM
Mar 2015

Our Congressmen are hard-working ethical people who do not let money corrupt them, or even cause the appearance of corruption. I know this to be true because the SCOTUS said so!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
11. Long on flaming rehetoric, short on facts
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015

"Tehran Tom was bought and paid for by another government than ours: and their interests are not the same as ours."

In the editorial, the author references two organizations to hang the bribery label, Kristol’s Emergency Committee for Israel Elliott Management and Paul Singer’s hedge fund. These are both US organizations.

The OP might be correct. I'm saying, however, that he fails to make the "another government" connection, which is essential for the whole traitor charge to stick.

Insert some sort of disclaimer here where I express my support for all things progressive, outrage at the GOP and a commitment to truth in propaganda.


niyad

(113,386 posts)
40. when you take into account the fact that corporations actually seem to be governments
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:26 AM
Mar 2015

these days, the statement is not inaccurate.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
65. I agree, buuuuut
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:05 PM
Mar 2015

Of course there should be a ban on corporations and other non-human entities contributing to campaigns, restricting it only to US citizens.

But there isn't a restriction, and Democrats also collect funds at the same trough.

Tehran Tom is a traitor in that he is colluding with a foreign government against the interests of the United States as outlined in the Constitution, but this rant about bribery is inapplicable at best.

Let's stick with shoveling the real shit Tehran Tom is creating, rather than making our own.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
98. I agree with part of your post.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:39 PM
Mar 2015

But WRT Tehran Tom the Traitor Tot, such "donations" are fair game when they are impactful to the subject at hand.

I wouldn't bring in, say, "contributions" from a salmon lobbyist (just an example) in this case, any more than I would mention Israeli-linked funding when west coast fisheries were in question.

If a funding stream is relevant it should be called out.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. A Lobbying Group serving the interests of a foreign government paid a million bucks
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:46 AM
Mar 2015

into the campaign coffers of Treasonous Tommy. That is UNDISPUTED.

A few scant months later, the Traitor Tot scrawls a letter, likely authored by an agent of that lobbying group (Bill "Red Faced" Kristol) that aligns with the interests of that foreign government for whom the donating lobbyists lobby. A bunch of eager beavers, also deep in the pockets of said lobbying group, jump on the bandwagon and sign the letter as well.

Follow The Money.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. The across the board corporate media silence and/or deflection tells me they too have been bribed.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:04 AM
Mar 2015

The SCOTUS Five got what they wanted with CU, widespread corruption in a lawless election finance landscape that will never be fixed by the GOP Congress.

Welcome to fascism, America, how you all likening it?

I am sure the rest of the world is more afraid of what happens if the fascists get into the White House as well than a million ISIS fighters.

America has 5000 nuclear warheads.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
32. the corporate media silence is deafening..
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:53 AM
Mar 2015

good thing there's the emails and another snow storm, because, gee, what could they talk about?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
78. HRC e-mails, Clinton Foundation donations from
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:37 PM
Mar 2015

outside countries (oh the irony) . . .

That said, back on topic, GOPers are beating the drums for forever war, ya know, the end of times so earth can be re-washed and only the true believers, the so called "Christians" shall reappear as the savior of all of mankind - hallelujus!!!!!

erronis

(15,303 posts)
35. Oh, nos! We can't let those warheads fall into the hands of a bunch of fanatics!!!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:56 AM
Mar 2015

My only hope is that the US military is still a professional force that wouldn't let President Rubio Merkin and Dr. StrangeL get their hands on the buttons.

A dark comedy(?) if the military has been infiltrated by LibertyU graduates and taliban also. Perhaps we could call it "Left Behind and Blown Away".

erronis

(15,303 posts)
59. I'm curious - are there any new saints if nobody's left to canonize them?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

Sorta the tree/forest paradigm.

No heroes, no scoundrels. No rights, no wrongs. No "Team USA", "Deutschland Uber Alles".

OK, the cockroaches will have to cast the votes.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
74. My ancestors barely survived the tender mercies of the R.C. church...
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:23 PM
Mar 2015

So I don't know from Saints. I do know from Sellers.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
26. Lobbyists are hardly new
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

Where is your evidence either of these two organizations are anything but American?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
39. Not at all
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:13 AM
Mar 2015

Since you obviously misunderstood the question the first time, I ask again, Where is your proof these organizations are not American?

riqster

(13,986 posts)
46. An organization can have an address anywhere.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:35 AM
Mar 2015

Mitt Romney doesn't live in the Cayman Islands, but some of his money does.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
57. No, but you are attempting to reframe the discussion.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:56 AM
Mar 2015

From the observed behavior to technicalities.

When a rabidly pro-Isreal group with documented ties to Israeli organizations gives $900,000.00 + to Tehran Tom, we can reasonably infer that is was done to benefit Israeli interests, which in this case are demonstrably opposed to those of the US.

I will further point out that had these foreign interests in and out of Israel's government NOT wanted this letter imbroglio to happen, they would be shouting their anger from the rooftops. Not happening.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
69. Uh - no
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:11 PM
Mar 2015

You were the one who typed this:

Tehran Tom was bought and paid for by another government than ours: and their interests are not the same as ours.

It's in your OP. I'm merely asking for you to back up the accusation. Still waiting.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
83. LOL - asking you to back up
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

what you wrote is a distraction? That's the argument you're going with? I'd be embarrassed but whatever. It's obvious you put out an accusation you can't back up and now it's YOU trying to deflect from that.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
70. Really?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:13 PM
Mar 2015

So - and I do want to get this right - every single organization that mentions Israel in their title is working for the Israeli government? Do I have that right? Does that work with other countries as well - or just Israel?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
133. Where am I defending Cotton?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:27 AM
Mar 2015

Not that I'm surprised there is someone trying to shove words into my mouth - it's a pattern around here for people who can't make an decent argument. My question had nothing to do with Cotton - it had to do with the OP claiming the organization is from a foreign government. How utterly and pathetically unsurprising that you try and deflect from the fact the OP threw out an accusation neither one of you can back up.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
142. "Lobbyists are hardly new"
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:02 PM
Mar 2015

You did rush to Cotton's defense with those exact words, correct? Did someone else "shove" those words into your mouth?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
143. Horseshit
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:13 PM
Mar 2015

So a truthful statement means rushing to someone's defense. You truly are a piece of work. I wear your scorn as a badge of honor. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to use the argument you are but that's just me.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
144. And you STILL
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:17 PM
Mar 2015

haven't answered my very simple question because it was a bullshit accusation that you can't back up so are trying to deflect. Like I said, I'd be embarrassed if I were you.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. If you look at the list of his contributors on "followthemoney.org", almost all of those at the top.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:51 AM
Mar 2015

...are from Political Committees. This is essentially legalized money laundering. Individuals (and businesses) contribute to a Committee, and when that recontributes it to a candidate, they don't have to detail "which" money goes to which candidate. I could contribute a million dollars to "Liberal Democrats", and then if "Liberal Democrats" gives a half million to Hillary Clinton and a half million to Elizabeth Warren, no one knows that those two contributions ultimately came from me.

Here is the list of top contributors to Cotton:

Club for Growth 798,000
Sen Conservative Fund 302,000
Citizens for Prosperity 52,000
Natl. Rep. Sen. Committee 45,000
New Senate Majority 2014 28,000
Reclaim America PAC 25,000

etc.

Response to riqster (Original post)

ananda

(28,867 posts)
51. And this is not treason?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:45 AM
Mar 2015

Coulda fooled me.

This is a very bad business... foreign interests controlling
a political party in our country.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
61. this is one thing only
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

'DOOMSDAY POLITICS'.

The only reason people like Cotton(head) give a rat's ass about a spit of land in the ME is because they see that spit of land and the people that live there as the vehicle to the "second coming" or as I call it 'Skydaddy takes me to NeverNever Land".
Think about it, why else would facist, flag-hugging, self-entitled, narcissistic, xenophobic asshats like Cotton (head) give two-shits about a place and people of Israel?
'Doomsday Politics'.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
77. Petition - We the people.. - PASS THIS ON! SPREAD IT AROUND! - Over 224k signers in TWO DAYS!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 12:32 PM
Mar 2015

Petition - We the people.. - PASS THIS ON! SPREAD IT AROUND! - Over 224k signers in TWO DAYS!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9


we petition the obama administration to:
File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.

On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.

This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.
Published Date: Mar 09, 2015

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
97. Great post. Thanks!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:36 PM
Mar 2015

Tehran Tom is happy to take any money he can get for himself. How the good people of Arkansas could vote for that disturbingly creepy man is shocking. It must have taken an awful lot of Koch money to buy the election for that nitwit.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
101. Guilt by association for the other 46
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:51 PM
Mar 2015

Just like if I were to hitch hike and get picked up by someone who was on their way to rob a liquor store, but I had no idea. I don't even have to step foot in the store to be guilty by association if someone got the plate, or there are cameras recording me. These 46 other nincompoops are just as guilty as Tehran Tom.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
114. What a surprise.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:26 PM
Mar 2015

When bribery is legalized, shitheels will take bribes from bigger, richer shitheels. Whoda thunk it?

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
116. Dang I was hoping you got a Defense Contractor bribe
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:40 PM
Mar 2015

I think if there were direct evidence Cotton was being paid to provoke war for the sake of private interests, he would not only end up with actual jail time, this country would finally be ready for a conversation about the role of defense contractors in war mongering and the budget allocation for the war machine.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
123. Paul Singers is an unkind cut
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:40 PM
Mar 2015

as a lot of democrats kiss up to him for benefits, especially the 3rd way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/us/politics/28singer.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

What is deadly is that,in addition to causing a lot of irate feelings towards other countries, he is hell bent on destroying social security.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
131. ''What else do we need to prosecute this f***ing traitor?''
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 01:29 AM
Mar 2015
- A pair of these:




Haven't seen any in the WH since Jimmy Carter left town........



K&R!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
136. Some actual law enforcement of Republicans is LONG OVERDUE.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:12 AM
Mar 2015

That is one thing I absolutely despise about the Democratic Party; the leniency with criminals on the Republican side. We NEVER do ANYTHING to stop their lawbreaking bullshit, no matter what laws they break, no matter how bad. They never cut us any slack at all, even over simple shit. Yet, we let them get by with anything and everything and we never do anything about it. I'm sick of this shit. Prosecute those traitors.

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