being able to intimidate people with your gun and other stuff.

With that said, if I were a policeman, I'd want to be well armed too.. Way too many right wingers carrying and hoarding gunz.

than a piece of insanity..

pah-tah-toe

that no matter how stringent gun laws become, there will still be guns on the streets, and they know that they have nothing to fear from law-abiding gun owners. The criminals, the outlaws, will always have guns, and they are the ones most likely to use them in the commission of crimes, including sniping at LEOs.

Cops realize that gun control isn't going to solve anything.

(BTW, doesn't Chicago have some of the most stringent gun laws in the country?)

Not when you can drive 10 minutes outside the city limits and buy up all the guns you can fit in your trunk.

Come on.....Tell us what you really think.. Perhaps that Liberals are trying to take your 2nd admend.
rights away? Your answer.. Just make it easier to obtain more guns..Perhaps armor piercing as well..

How many people get killed by guns in this country each year? Perhaps around 8, 000?
Your solution.. More guns needed on the streets..

I know all about your feelings concerning this link.. Cars kill more...crap.

http://www.humanosphere.org/science/2014/03/visualizing-gun-deaths-comparing-the-u-s-to-rest-of-the-world/

I'm not a gun owner, never have been, never will be.

If there were a way to make it more difficult for the bad guys to get guns, I think everyone would be all for it. There's no way to do that.

Good Start.. You think?

But laws are only as good as the enforcement.

What I ment was that the NRA has been rigorously trying to repeal.. Sorry..

Enforcement is key... Less unnecessary guns on the street is essential..

No more exemptions written into the laws as they currently are.

If the cops can own a particular hand, civilians can own that particular handgun.
If cops can own a semi-automatic rifle, civilians can own semi-automatic rifles.
If cops are exempt from "smart gun" technology, civilians are exempt from "smart gun" technology.
If cops are allowed to carry concealed in all 50 states, civilians should be allowed to carry in all 50 states.
If cops can own +10 magazines, civilians can own +10 magazines, and so on, and so on...

should be able to purchase the same firearms as police?

Even more so when it applies to non-department, non-official capacities, non-active duty personnel
(most of those exemptions I posted apply regardless of the officers status or situation).

It goes beyond the type, functionality or firepower of any particular weapon.

Depending on the state, cops have exemptions from applicable gun control laws, whereas their civilian
counterparts do not... NJ's "smart gun" laws exempts LEO (ironically, the technology was first developed
specifically for LEO's). State AWB's and magazine capacity restrictions exempt LEO's, on or off duty including
retired. Police officers employed (and retired with at least 10 years of service), in any one state, can
legally carry a concealed firearm in every state, regardless of that states licensing laws.

The people who write these gun control laws love police exemptions. And it's not because they have any
love for the cops themselves or the dangers they face, but because they know that without those exemptions,
the LEO unions and fraternal organizations would never support any such measures.

I mean c'mon... anytime a piece of gun control legislation is proposed/signed, it always looks great in
front of the news cameras having some smirking police chiefs with more gold braid than Idi Amin standing
up at the podium.


I keep hearing and reading about the gap, alienation, distrust and privileges between cops and civilians.
Crap like I posted just widens that gap and pisses people off even more.

This doable if you have the right Captains and Heads of Human Resources..

All I know is that the more guns on the street the more killings we’re gonna have..

and come down on the murdering-jack-booted-motherfuckers like an angry god instead of letting them of with
a stern warning and a wink and a nod.

As long as one doesn't have a criminal record (they have plenty of opportunity to earn that after they're hired),
obvious signs of mental illness (the really good ones hide it well), and works well with others (aka, covering
each others asses), departments will hire them; Southern PD's seem to be the most willing to overlook certain
'character flaws' and 'minor transgressions'. IIRC, Wilson and that cop that shot the kid with the Airsoft gun
had 'issues' when they were employed by other departments.

HR heads and departments are scum. Right up there with used car salesmen and telemarketers.

Police Captains and or higher brass? Like that will ever happen. They're part and parcel of the same
mentality that feeds and maintains the sort of behavior PD's across the country are exhibiting.

When was the last time, or how often do you ever hear of a police official condemning any misdeeds by an
officer under their command? And on the rare occasions that they do, it's only because of the avalanche of
criticism and complaints from the media and public. If there were no Internet... they would just laugh it off.

But all that aside, even if there were better hiring policies in play. If there were more firm and by the book
higher ups. If there were "human resources" (I remember when it was simply the 'Personnel department'),
heads that weren't anal idiots the problem still would not go away as long as prosecutors shy away from
charging, juries refuse to indict or convict and judges fail to punish. The blame is on everyone (the police unions
are another story).

It's pretty much an incurable disease at this point. Might as well be equally (or better) armed.

And have learned from first hand experience laws don't deter criminals if there is a demand?

would that help the problem? Yea here comes the 2nd Amendment bullshit..

That's like saying "if we got all prescription narcotics only in the hands of doctors and patients"....

In the real world you can't just make things, or demand for them, disappear.

on themselves... Yea there are narcotic based gun deaths..But it’s a bad analogy.

By the way in Europe and other no gun Countries were able to" Make...them,disappear”

Results have been pretty good... You think?