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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:12 AM Mar 2015

GOP Goes Ballistic Over Plan to Take The Iran Nuke Deal to the U.N.

Tim Mak

The latest move in the nuclear negotiations with Iran could be to take them to the United Nations. And that will trigger a Republican hatefest for the ages.

The Obama administration hinted Thursday that it may take elements of an Iranian nuclear deal to the United Nations—while bypassing Congress for now. And that possibility has turned an already ugly political fight over the negotiations even nastier.

In one scenario floated this week, the White House would not immediately put aspects of an Iran deal up for a vote in Congress. Instead, the Obama administration would take aspects of the agreement to the United Nations Security Council—making the U.N. the target of a congressional hatefest.

“The United Nations has no authority whatsoever to bind the United States of America,” Republican Sen. Ted Cruz told The Daily Beast, arguing that only treaties and congressionally-passed laws could do that. “If President Obama attempts to end-run the Constitution by enlisting the United Nations to enforce an Iran deal that sets the stage for Iran to acquire nuclear weapons, it would be both profoundly dangerous to the national security of the United States and our allies, and also patently unconstitutional.”

No deal has yet been reached with Iran. But there were hints that a United Nations process was underway Thursday. Reuters reported that the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council were already negotiating a resolution that would ease U.N. sanctions if a nuclear agreement was reached with Iran.

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GOP Goes Ballistic Over Plan to Take The Iran Nuke Deal to the U.N. (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP

One of the old right wing dreams has been to remove the U.N. from American soil. gordianot Mar 2015 #1

That was in many state GOP party platforms in 2008 and 2012 along with getting out of the WTO, NAFTA pampango Mar 2015 #5

They want a war option based on bullshit, literally. There reasoning is unsound, and the focus Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #2

republicans are simply children who throw a tantrum when things don't go as they wish spanone Mar 2015 #3

Framing this as an "ugly fight" is more media asshattery. Flinging feces by one side is not a fight, Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #4

They don't seem to realize this isn't between the US and Iran starroute Mar 2015 #6

gordianot

(15,242 posts)

1. One of the old right wing dreams has been to remove the U.N. from American soil.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:31 AM

Mar 2015

Now that the John Birch Society drivel is Republican gospel, a new place to go when sabotage of your own countries foreign policy is not enough. Get rid of the UN they are not the boss of the exalted Republican Congress. What is so sad the Republicans have nothing to worry about Peace is not going to break out.

pampango

(24,692 posts)

5. That was in many state GOP party platforms in 2008 and 2012 along with getting out of the WTO, NAFTA

Reply to gordianot (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:20 AM

Mar 2015

and just about any other international organization that, in their wacko opinion, jeopardizes our national sovereignty. Membership in any international organization or being party to any international agreement inevitably means that we (and the other members/parties) agree to do or not to do certain things thus, by definition, limiting our 'sovereignty' in the right's view. Hence, they believe that international agreements are evil.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

2. They want a war option based on bullshit, literally. There reasoning is unsound, and the focus

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:01 AM

Mar 2015

should be on all their lies regarding Iran. It is sickening what they'll do, and Obama
is pushing back hard as ever. Watch out hawks, your foreign policy dreams in the ME
are being challenged and the American public is supporting that initiative.

spanone

(135,846 posts)

3. republicans are simply children who throw a tantrum when things don't go as they wish

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:07 AM

Mar 2015

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

4. Framing this as an "ugly fight" is more media asshattery. Flinging feces by one side is not a fight,

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:20 AM

Mar 2015

it is monkey business. More fascist drivel...the media ignoring the fact the GOP is essentially outraged that Obama is still President is equally subversive.

When will the American media stop being stenographers and start being reporters again?

starroute

(12,977 posts)

6. They don't seem to realize this isn't between the US and Iran

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:56 PM

Mar 2015

It's between the major powers more generally and Iran. And if everybody else is satisfied with Iranian assurances and lifts their sanctions, the US will have very little say in the matter, except to maintain its own (relatively insignificant) sanctions out of pure pissiness.

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