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...but FRIENDS OF BERNIE is his Senatorial campaign committee. You DID NOT give to his Presidential campaign, because you can't. He needs to file a separate campaign with FEC before you can give a penny towards a Presidential run, and he hasn't done so.

Bernie's a good egg.

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We will have to see rather than take the word of detractors.

do.

It would be great to have Bernie at Cabinet meetings talking directly
to Hillary, she is already pro SS (goes with out saying), he is good at
knowing how laws should be crafted. I am always impressed with his
very specific ideas. He could keep an eye on things for progressives

Always, remember whomever becomes the next democratic president
will sign most if not all legislation that can get the votes. So if Bernie,
Warren, and other democrats can convince their fellow Dem's to support
just about anything, Hillary or whomever will sign it.

wisdom.

He;d be great in the cabinet, but he has become the conscience of the Senate, and we need him there, especially if Warren gets a cabinet position (or even Veep).

However, If want to go the cabinet, I sure there is another Vermont Dem
in the wing we could work with.

Thanks

He only jumped to I when he was insulted by W. Bernie replaced him.

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Jim Jeifford's party left him, the GOP of today is concentrated in
in the South. The Kind of GOP Jeffords was would be make him
a liberal today: He was one of last good republicans, they are almost
existent now: Sue Collins of Main is the only one I know of, and
even she is sometimes supports the crazy GOP.

God bless Jeffords, may he rest in peace, he was a fine American.

His wife was distraught at the switch because all of her friends were GOP wives, and they dropped her like a hot poker. She could have used the friends, too, because she was suffering with cancer and died around the time JJ left the Senate.

He died just last year, FWIW.

Moderate-Liberal Republicans are USELESS and damaging. They "look" good but they don't help. It doesn't matter what THEY vote for (the whips count the votes and will let those types go their own way if they have enough), the fact that they caucus with the GOP is what is the problem. If the whip needs their vote, too, their conscience is strangled and thrown out the window, and they get threatened with withdrawal of Big Donor/RNC cash.

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Your statements, show that Jim Jeffords was a fine American
he put his country first , and did the right thing for all Americans.

You are also agreeing with the reasons Jeffords left the GOP, it was
because he had not place there. Susan Collins doesn't anymore
either.


Bless Jim Jeffords and his wife they were fine Americans

He wasn't a Democrat, though--and facts are important things.

dems.

I voted for him with pride.

Thing is, though, when JJ was a Republican, he voted with his caucus at least some of the time. More importantly, the (R) after his name gave the leadership to the GOP at a time when the Democrats should have had it for the good of the country.

That said, he was in a seat that had been "owned" by Republicans for over a hundred years, so the fact that he "turned" it to an "Independent" seat is a good thing.

That's why I say the worst Democrat is always better than the best Republican.

I'll take my chances with independents, but unless they're caucusing with the Democrats, they're useless, too.

Amazing.

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Hillary would be running almost like a sitting President( sitting president have I rate of elect ability) it could
save us a lot of money: (The Koch brothers have enough money
bribe every writer in American and most media is owned now by corporations). We need to present a united front, with
the team work, Democrats could extract deals from her, since she would be
would be in a conciliatory mood.

Hillary, as I keeping saying, should run on Obama record, (with Obama out there with her) with
progressive writing her campaign. (Howard Dean and Jim Dean should be Head of DNCC)

Who cares if whom the nomination is, as long as they dance to the
progressive tune. ( Hillary is tried and tested, the American people
are already behind her.)

If Hillary doesn't run Sherri Brown is our man, he can deliver Ohio,
(also a wonderful Dem called Strickland is run for the Senate in Ohio), with those two
out in Ohio, the GOP cannot win without cheating.
Just remember if we lose the GOP are sending boys to war!!

Hillary has a long track record of being a Democrat, Warren doesn't! (she only just started voting in elections)
Before Obama's Presidency, the Clinton's were the most talented politician
and most successful democrats in the Democratic party; (that is what one
need to become President): Policy could written by Warren in the Senate
if there's enough support, HIllary would sign on to policy Sanders and Warren
support
They raised taxes on the rich, the created 22million new jobs, I got
rich under them. African American unemployment went down to single
digits.
Remember, Not a single GOP person voted for the Clinton budget that
strengthen SS. You could not find two people more Democratic than
Hillary and Bill Clinton, they are fighters. Warren and Sanders have
good policies, but they are not willing to put their one lives on the
for them. Hillary will!! That's a real Democrat

Howard Dean is supporting Hillary because she is a real democrat!

Thanks for the laugh.

how it could benefit or detract from progressive objectives rather than talking only about themselves and their 'narrative'.
It's interesting that you are puzzled by actual contemplation of something other than ego and folding currency in a politician.

Basically he's right. If the donations roll in and he can run a well staffed, well funded campaign, great. But if not, it doesn;t help, and may hurt.

based on money, not sentiment.

the neocon monarchists hopes up, to read that everyone drops out but Hillary, so we have no choice but to bomb Iran and bail out bad banks.

You quoted an explanation in your OP.

A good campaign needs to be well-funded - seems reasonable to me.

I know he's talking to people about the issues. That used to be an important step - not sure if it still is, with all the $ in politics now.

Candidates who announce in the year before the election have generally spent the previous year looing for financial and political commitments; the longer you wait the more names and dollars and locked up by other candidates. If he hasn't announced by May (which means he should be laying the organizational groundwork now), I don't see him being much more successful than Dennis Kucinich.

The money in politics chaps my ass.

It seems late in the game to go asking the Usual Suspects for Big Money. And yes, small donors with their five and ten and twenty five dollar donations DO make a big difference, but that nest egg of Big Money solves a lot of problems and buys a lot of ads.

Image is everything and it is difficult to do what is necessary to hold your own image in a Presidential campaign. He doesn't want to be the next Kucinich. I am a supporter of Kucinich but that is what Sanders is saying. Half ass it and you will be laughed out of the room no matter how right you are. Many people can't grasp the complexities of a presidential campaign.

News to me.

the incredibly careless thing:

Let's put all of our eggs into one basket.

Great, we will never learn.

No objection from the Hillary folks if he gets in.

Your choice...

thing to take on a presidential campaign and, if you win, the presidency. If I were over 70, I wouldn't consider it.

In any case, I'd love to see him out there spreading the socialism, but in this country it won't matter much unless lots and lots of money is put behind its spread.

He was on Vermont Public Radio Friday afternoon and was asked about this article. His response was that it was an unfair assessment and he feels that the Beltway media is starting to get angry at him for not attacking Hillary and giving them stuff to gossip about. Thus they are putting out articles like this.


Audio (starts at the 2:00 mark): http://digital.vpr.net/post/senator-bernie-sanders-live

He's the real deal. Better than any candidate in my lifetime and I'd certainly vote for him, but I wouldn't bet a dime on him winning. He's not shiny and sparkly enough and there's just too damn many idiots in this country that don't know what the hell is going on. The right wing media (well, the media) will make Bernie out to be a cranky communist who wants to take all their money and tens of millions of dumbasses will totally buy into that.

I'd be nervous about wanting to do well too. If he does poorly, the whole progressive movement will be hammered by the press.

where he talks some about this,

http://news.yahoo.com/video/could-self-proclaimed-socialist-sen-224829698.html

The paradox is that if the system is ever to change, the money is going to have to be divorced from it. There is something to be said for not playing The Game, but unfortunately it effectively disqualifies Sanders.

Even telling the truth in politics doesn't work. Truman recognized Nixon's true colors, I thought these quotes were earlier but still later proven to be correct.

”Richard Nixon is a no-good lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he’d lie just to keep his hand in…[Nixon is] the easiest man to beat.” — Harry Truman, 1960

•”If Nixon had to stick to the truth, he’d have very little to say. You don’t set a fox to watching the chickens just because he has a lot of experience in the henhouse…Nixon has never told the truth in his life…He is against the small farmer. He is against small business, agriculture, public power. I don’t know what the hell he’s for, and that bird has the nerve to come to Texas and ask you to vote for him. If you do, you ought to go to hell.” — Harry Truman, 1960

•”I wonder how many people remember our history and realize how close Jefferson came to losing the election in 1800, and how close Aaron Burr came to being our third President, which would have been as bad as electing Richard Nixon today.” — Harry Truman, 1960

•”I don’t think the son-of-a-bitch knows the difference between truth and lying.” — Harry Truman

Bernie Sanders is at his best when he speaks, unfortunately the public is afforded little opportunity at the chance. He needs the unprecedented grass roots movement & we need to provide it for him. The irony is he defends & supports Obama than the mainstream candidates who ran anti-Obama ads & Hillary Clinton will depending on his outgoing poll numbers.

...because Obama isn't the evil RW conservadem some people here claim he is.

Likewise, perhaps that's why Elizabeth Warren is encouraging Hillary Clinton to run for President.

when it comes corporate donor influence in politics he doesn't single out individuals but mentions its effect on the party as a whole & in addition to Republicans long history as the big business party.

When all the mainstream Democrats were pushing a third-year in a row payroll tax cut Bernie Sanders was still talking about "lifting the cap". When he had that historic filibuster, so overall I trust him on policy much more than those clearly more influenced by corporate donors. Elizabeth Warren publicly supported Massachusetts-based private defense contractors which is a red flag but it is clear she has more than proved herself in matters regarding the finance industry. It is interesting that keeping them honest gets you labeled a "liberal firebrand" a "crusader" or any label which highlights how unusual a member of the House or Senate says something that is really common sense. She referenced the kind of punishment someone dealing with a small amount of cocaine (probably about a mid-level dealer amount IIRC) in response to Wachovia hit with a $70 million dollar fine for laundering $378 billion. Plus they were cut a $28 billion tax cut for purchasing Wells Fargo for $28 billion, it is obscene the way they're allowed to do in business & thankfully we have a watchdog which my impression is that she is committed to her a job though I don't know how much "encouraging" she is doing.

Bernie Sanders, I trust completely or just about one of the few politicians overall in national office I view in the same way and I know no aspect of regarding what position to take or policies to push can be bought & paid for though he is experienced in-that how often is there a "gaffe" media-generated or otherwise? When he said Obama lost touch with his grass-roots backed campaign, this was honest criticism grounded in truth. Hillary Clinton used Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, & Rezko to discourage Obama support. Sanders has repeatedly mentioned any campaign at all wouldn't be about his political opponents but the people affected by this corporate influence. Even Elizabeth Warren would probably have a conventional political campaign.

The members of Senate or House with highest ACA scores tend to be the more favorable of Obama. Alan Grayson -- I remember when he posted on DU, claimed he had a very high opinion of Obama noting the opposition & media criticism he has had to deal with it. The moderates liberals here are ordered to support run anti-Obama ads with shotguns & "I'm not Obama" & the other 2 The Daily Show played a clip of. While all this was going, the journalist was a guest with Bernie Sanders on Real Time, listening to Bernie Sanders asked where were Democrats like you during the midterms?

There are differences on policy that separates them in spite of the shifting on Hillary Clinton who is incredibly smart & correct on a wide variety of issues, takes the political safe thing or used her Senate career like Al Gore during his PMRC days.