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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo white folks who object to the use of the term "Cracker"...
Do they really have a right to complain about the use of that term when we often hear white people use it to refer to other white people?
(Although the OP is intended to be ironic, in truth, I don't object to the use of Cracker term, since it's a term used to describe someone who is racist. I object to any use of the N-word, but it's not my place to tell the racial targets of that word whether I approve of them using it or not)
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)we all just don't call each other names?
Township75
(3,535 posts)Won't be accepted well here.
underpants
(182,832 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Better band too although Cracker is quite good.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Sissyk
(12,665 posts)I can say I've never heard a white person or black person IRL use that word. Only on DU do I see it often.
My son's uncles have taught him not to use the n word (even with other blacks), or cracker, or redneck, or any word that is offensive to a group of people. We should all be like that.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Called cracker by a black person and I suggested the name calling not get started. It may not offend me, I am what I am but the derogatory names are not nice.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Jenny Red Eye
(53 posts)if they choose to fight that particular battle.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Where do you expect such behavior to lead?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Maybe that will get their attention.
No idea.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)and NO, I'm not offended by it.
I am offended by OUTRAGE BY PROXY trolls who want to be offended FOR me.
Uh, no. Just go away. I'll fight my own battles, thanks.
All you ever wanted to know about Crackers but were too intimidated to ask: http://www.florida-backroads-travel.com/florida-cracker.html
Just don't call me a Republican. That's the real mortal insult.
Polly Hennessey
(6,799 posts)Call me cracker, call me slut ------ just don't call me republican.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)They were just goading him into using the N word. Everyone hated him and hoped he would blow up soon and he did. Security escorted him out. But for a year after that they kept calling me Honkie and everyone laughed.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)they have a right to complain, and a right to be offended.
I am not offended by that term, but I rarely get offended by names---they're just names.
But other folks certainly have the right to be offended by terms such as "cracker".
B2G
(9,766 posts)Discuss.
since he's a male.
Discuss.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Discuss why your answer has been "yes".
pintobean
(18,101 posts)NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)Forced to get ID they cant afford to get so they can vote?
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...in most cases, that I've heard it, it's a lot like saying "You Bastard!" Depends on how you say it.
You bastard...you stole $2,300.00 from me! Consider our friendship over.
You bastard..you actually got a date from that beautiful, intelligent woman? You lucky dog!
Again, the word doesn't bother me. NOT the same as the N word or a lot of other derogatory words.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)A cracker cowboy
artist: Frederick Remington
The Florida "cowhunter" or "cracker cowboy" of the 19th and early 20th centuries was distinct from the Spanish vaquero and the Western cowboy. Florida cowboys did not use lassos to herd or capture cattle. Their primary tools were cow whips and dogs. Florida cattle and horses were smaller than the western breeds. The "cracker cow", also known as the "native" or "scrub" cow, averaged about 600 pounds (270 kg) and had large horns and large feet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker
Over the years it became used to disparage poor whites and has also picked up an association with plantation owners who whipped their slaves.
See also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...said Cracker was at Publix asking where the Ritz crackers are...
csziggy
(34,136 posts)With a song about Florida Crackers. Since there were few competent performers in the area, someone had the songs prerecorded and played them back while local "performers moved around on the stage. The guy playing the Cracker cowboy thought he was good with a bullwhip and insisted on popping it - but he never managed to do it at the right point in the music. So we'd hear the prerecorded whip crack and the live whip crack.
That was when I first heard about Florida Cracker cowboys.
One of the things we found in my parents' house was a tape of the songs. I should transfer them to digital - but I wonder if anyone has pictures or film of the performances that could be put with the music.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)which, while having a similar pronunciation, is very different from the actual "C-word".
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I think that is the difference.
Oktober
(1,488 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This is subtle underhanded way of using a racial epithet under the guise of asking about its use. If a white person were to have a thread "Do black folks who object to the term...." Hate speech is hate speech and needs to be uniformly treated. DU community standards need to be upheld here.
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Explanation: Alerter, pack your shit and vacate the premises. Anyone as clueless about racism to alert on this thread not only has no business being on the Internet but is certainly in no position to be trying to censure other conversations about which you CLEARLY have no clue.
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Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Between "I like cjeek dgg" and "CreekDog is female", I think it is unfair that CreekDog gets to be part of no less than TWO DU memes.
I'm boiling in jealousy.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They may be delicious but I put my foot down on eating them.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Screeming Meemie beat me to the obvious single entrendre.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)But he doesn't like wet willies. Nibbling good - wet willies bad.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I hate wet willies too. Grody.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Things you can only imagine.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)rogerashton
(3,920 posts)Or is that supposition itself (at best) stereotyping? As I understand it, it originally referred to the dialect common in north Florida and south Georgia; in any case, since it applies only to white people from that area, it implies something about skin color. Thus: "by it's a term used to describe someone who is racist" are you not expressing prejudice based on skin color?
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99Forever
(14,524 posts)On both.
ileus
(15,396 posts)The Rob Black Show
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|madokie
(51,076 posts)and I'm one hell of an old cracker at that
But then I was offended when someone early on called me homey, I'd never heard that word used before either. Not even sure how to react with either to be honest with you all but for some reason homey set me off
Its hell living under a rock for years like I must have
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)If I remember correctly, the word was almost exclusively used for poor white farmers from Georgia, although I am unsure why that was.
In more recent decades, the word has taken on a more pejorative meaning: racist, ignorant, etc.
Interestingly enough, young people I encounter often aren't even familiar with the word, having never heard it in this sense. Is it a word that will disappear with changing demographics--disappearance of rural farmers, or will it stick with us in the popular lexicon with its current negative connotation?
KMOD
(7,906 posts)I have never heard anyone else be called a cracker, either.
If I envision someone calling me a cracker, my reaction is a smile, light laugh.
I think calling someone a racist, would have more impact on them, than calling them a cracker. Just my honest opinion.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Was named Georgia Crackers.
Not sure whether that was clueless or playfulness.
I always thought it was pretty damn funny.
Have never felt any threat at all by being called a cracker/cracka.
winstars
(4,220 posts)Dead Honky
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HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I have met several "native" Floridians who have referred to themselves as "Crackers". Ok, whatever.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)romanic
(2,841 posts)The word cracker being used by anybody in person. I've only heard it being used in old sitcoms like Sanford and Son. :p
Either way i agree with the first poster that we shouldn't call each other names.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)When I talk about eating crackers at lunch time, I don't want anyone getting pervy ideas.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)but I look more like a biscuit.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)They called themselves "transplanted crackers" but were really Georgia Peaches. My mom, the oldest of 10 kids, was born in Georgia as were 2 of her siblings then my grandparents moved to Miami where the rest of my aunts and uncles were born.
I, personally, have never been offended by being called a cracker, even if it came from an African American... which it had many times. Miami was a melting pot from the late 60's until... well... now. I grew up with a diversity of friends who were white, black, cuban, mexican, greek and italian. I never thought of them as anything more than other people and my friends. I never thought about race, nationality or anything else. We just played together, hung out together, eventually got high together and always had each others backs. Hell, I had 2 italian friends who lived on the same street as I did, and they nick-named themselves "Dag" and "Dago". Dago was full italian & Dag was half. They would ignore you if you called them by their real first names!
Peace,
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gerogie2
(450 posts)In America racial slurs about whites have no effect since minorities aren't running most companies.