At least it seems to be an honest error as it's a hint to an inside-joke.

Are still virgins at the age of 25.

They'e the ones in the back rooms at frat parties.

Someone saw it, took offense, and publicized it on social media and got a lot of reaction. I hardly call that "blind."

Yes they are parodying the legal notices saying places aren't responsible for lost or stolen items, but in the particular instance referenced, leaving off stolen would have been smarter.

That said, I don't know enough to say if it was unintentional or not. In a similar vein, I recently joked about believing that a young female gymnast I know had a faked birth certificate because she doesn't look like she's 18. Somebody else then mentioned that given she was adopted from China and given the history of China fudging gymnasts' ages, I should be careful. I didn't know she was born in China, so I wasn't taking a shot at that, but my comment could very easily have been taken poorly.

is what is blind. how hard is that to understand? pretty sure that clueless woman-hater had no idea the hatred would go viral.

If society as a whole said "meh," then that would seem indicative of such blindness.

But since we look at the shirt and say of its wearer "what an asshole," that suggests the opposite IMO.

And has he succeeded?

Do you think he sees this as a negative?

Bartenders are usually too busy to read what's on someone's back. Mostly they see the front of their customers.

We were talking about the owner of the bar that had the Tee shirts printed.

WTF dude.

Is it supposed to insult him in some way?
It would appear so.

in context of a shirt which makes light of rape. Therefore you seem to be saying that such a shirt is appropriate for a gay person to wear but not a straight person.

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To me, this shirt is saying that you can't blame rape on being drunk. It's saying that people shouldn't be using 'well she was drunk!' as a excuse to justify rape. Basically, it's saying don't blame rape on being drunk, blame rape on the rapist.

I'll admit that it is very poorly worded, but I think the ideal behind it - That the fault for rape is on the rapist and not the victim no matter what their state was - is completely valid.

while either drunk of either party (rapist or victim) or their behavior? in a poorly worded, for chuckles.....?

and you do not see how this is not a dismissal of actual rape. a joke, a grin.

damn well bet they worded it as they did (poorly), to sell the damn tshirts to a bunch of stupid ass boys.... thinking they are so cool and macho wearing out and about.

offend women and girls, meh....

fun for the guys...

Do you think drunkenness is a excuse?

that is what that tshirt says. drunk RAPE! not drunk SEX!

got the difference?

see how us women are seeing it and men are not seeing it?

see the very argument that we are making?

THAT is the validation to the argument that people are so blind to rape. exactly making that point.

That drunkenness isn't a excuse for rape.

It's what I said in my first post, the post you took offense over.

My interpretation of the shirt might be wrong, but does that make my statement that being drunk shouldn't justify or excuse rape any less true?

and i and others are explaining this to you, clearly. you refuse to back off your stand, a ridiculous stand, that anyone argues rape is ok.....

and ignore... dismiss.... derail the discussion..... the intent of this tshirt. blindness to rape. a joke and a giggle.

why do you refuse to address that to justify the selling and wear of this offensive tshirt?

That a woman being drunk isn't justification for rape is true.

Is this idea wrong?

"My interpretation of the shirt is vastly different..."

Yes... that is indeed a very creative rationalize you've constructed.

Radical belief isn't it, that the fault for rape belongs to the rapist and not the condtion, or clothing (Because this is another thing people use to justify rape - Their victims choice in clothing) of their victim.

and they were being cute, with the stolen "virginity" cause there is a real giggle taking a girls virginity, right?

are you really pretending this is a feminist wet dream and we should be cheering these efforts of both the bar and boy who spent money on, and wore the tshirt?

I'm sure the horny drunk person will come up with that exact same reason.

Do you think that being drunk should be a reason for forgiveness (I was drunk, I didn't know what I was doing!), or a excuse (She was drunk, but she still said yes!) for rape?

I don't.

Answer me this - Who should the blame belong to for a rape?

From the responses I've seen so far, apparently saying that rapists should be blamed for rape is extremely radical. I guess some people just want to hold onto the belief that a woman beings rape upon her self by choosing to drink.

Is this actually happening right now?

and not with a wink-wink-nudge-nudge.

I don't think the creator of the shirt was any sort of 'deep thinker'. I think they were just making a joke out of drunk women being sexually assaulted.

It's clear it's a "joke" on the typical "not responsible for lost or stolen articles" signs you see at businesses all the time.

No… really. Can anyone be responsible for drinking so much that you whip it out and take a leak on that shirt? Hey… Not your fault, is it?

offensive. ... he whips the tshirt off, while apologizing and thanking for the education, and put the shirt on inside out.....

do you think? do you think that possibility even exists?

all their fault

i hope all is well with you!!!

in a bit of a rough patch right now, but i'm surviving.

hope your are well

about the rough patch. i hope it levels out soon.

me?.... smooth sailin',

the spring weather is helping, now i'm just waiting for the color to return.

he whipped his head around me and looked at me like i was from outer space. too funny

i am close ot you, so you know our weather. snow..... cold for days, snow, cold for days.... lol. rinse and repeat. we have had a lot of days with a little snow or ice. not accumulations... but enough to make driving tough.

and had our first fire weather advisory yesterday. i really hope we don't just skip spring and go right into summer.

it rained so much, i rarely had to water and didnt hit 100 much at all.

but old farmer's is calling for a hotter and rainier summer than normal. i'll deal with the heat if the rain materializes, but i don't want another hellacious summer of fires.

one more of those and i am outta here.

but i'm not.

let's joke about stealing someone's virginity, har har har. last time i checked, stealing meant taking something that isn't yours without the owner's consent.

Sigh

Surprised it hadnt been alerted on, surprised at the results...
............

On Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:07 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

He makes a good point.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6376188

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Rape apologist. Women lie about being raped, so the t-shirt is okay to poster, who basically says rape is NOT rape because women lie about it. Rape. Apologist.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:14 AM, and voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with the alerter. Trotting out rape-apology memes is out of place here.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Misogynist troll. We know who he is.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with alerter. What is this person doing on DU?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid but not over the line. Better to add to the 11 post thread already in place.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This post is disturbing and disgusting and should have no home on DU. "Stolen virginity" does not equal "consent." Probably one of the worst jury services I've even been ask to participate in.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

I expected a bunch of "He's just giving his opinion. Debate him in the thread." Never know with juries.

it was their 2nd to last post, the last one being the one above that was hidden: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6358247

It's a passive aggressive attack on Mike Brown's family, the family of the guy who was killed by police.

Notice he doesn't respond. Trolling through the tulips.

Oh MIRT...calling MIRT...

Alas...

It goes deeper based in ignorant myth and superstition . Sadly this kid probably thinks the tee shirt will lead to him loosing his virginity because he has been told that no means yes by peers that have been brainwashed too