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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:01 PM Mar 2015

Universities tuition increases require looser standards thus major frat problems and

helicopter parents demanding better scores.

All this in an era of high productivity displacing jobs faster than population growth.

We got the students but not the jobs so who is going to compete with the for profit outfits and how will main line universities survive???

They won't.

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Universities tuition increases require looser standards thus major frat problems and (Original Post) CK_John Mar 2015 OP
Frats have always had problems. The only difference is now their problems are brodcast for FSogol Mar 2015 #1
Frats have been carrying on for decades BainsBane Mar 2015 #2
Just when tuition goes up the payee gains more leverage, money talks. CK_John Mar 2015 #4
That doesn't constitute evidence BainsBane Mar 2015 #5
I don't need evidence, it's my opinion. CK_John Mar 2015 #7
idiocy transcends melm00se Mar 2015 #3
Universities are about brand. You pay for their brand on your resume' GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #6
The brand works when there are jobs, now automation is rapidly displacing jobs. CK_John Mar 2015 #8
I respectfully disagree GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #9

FSogol

(45,487 posts)
1. Frats have always had problems. The only difference is now their problems are brodcast for
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:38 PM
Mar 2015

everyone to condemn instead of being covered up by the Greek system and Universities.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
2. Frats have been carrying on for decades
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:41 PM
Mar 2015

People are just starting to take it seriously.

Tuition increases are in response to cuts in funding from state legislatures.

Do you have any evidence admission standards have loosened, particularly at the universities with the high-profile frat problems?
Lastly, do you have any evidence that the frat boys, often children of the elite, have benefited from lowered admission standards?

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
5. That doesn't constitute evidence
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:01 PM
Mar 2015

Additionally, the recent expulsions would contradict your assertion about the payee wielding more leverage.
The average parent or student paying tuition doesn't have leverage. Big donors certainly can, but you haven't shown us anything to demonstrate that there is any correlation with bad behavior by fraternities.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
3. idiocy transcends
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:53 PM
Mar 2015

time and socioeconomic boundaries.

the form and location may change but idiocy is idiocy.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
6. Universities are about brand. You pay for their brand on your resume'
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:03 PM
Mar 2015

Their brand perception is what allows them to charge whatever the hell they charge.

Much of that brand is often based on the performance of the football team or on successful and well-connected alumni.

Statistically the people who place the most value on a college degree are those most likely to face discrimination in the workplace:



So in the big picture, colleges are profiting from discrimination in the general populace; and from their football teams which are now the subject of lawsuits by students who got scholarships but became unpaid employees of the University and often leave with no degree:

http://deadspin.com/lawsuit-ncaa-athletics-violate-labor-laws-1650554659

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
9. I respectfully disagree
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:48 PM
Mar 2015

Fewer jobs = more competition and therefore a greater value placed on perceived qualifications and brand. I think the graph shows that dynamic.

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