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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:21 PM Mar 2015

Here are 10 things black people fear that white people don’t — or don’t nearly as much

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/here-are-10-things-black-people-fear-that-white-people-dont-or-dont-nearly-as-much/

When black people wake up and begin the day, we have a wide range of issues we have to think about before leaving our homes. Will a police officer kill us today? Or, will some George Zimmerman vigilante see us as a threat in our own neighborhoods and kill us? We brace ourselves for those white colleagues who are pissed Barack Obama won both elections and take out their racist rage on us. When we drive our cars, we have to wonder if we’ll be pulled over because our cars look too expensive for a black person to be driving. If we’re poor and sick, we wonder if we’ll be able to be treated for our illness. We have a lot on our minds, and sometimes it’s overwhelming.

Here are a few examples of things we have to be afraid of that white people don’t (or not nearly as much).

1. Getting fired because we don’t fit into white cultural norms. Rhonda Lee, an African American meteorologist who worked at a Louisiana TV station wore her hair in a natural hairstyle one viewer found offensive. “The black lady that does the news is a very nice lady. The only thing is she needs to wear a wig or grow some more hair. I’m not sure if she is a cancer patient. But still it’s not something myself that I think looks good on TV,” the viewer wrote on the station’s Facebook page.

After Lee posted a respectful reply to the man’s insulting remark, she was fired for violating the station’s social media policy, even though she wasn’t made aware there was one. It took her nearly two years to find a new job. She has filed a discrimination lawsuit against the station that is still pending.


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Here are 10 things black people fear that white people don’t — or don’t nearly as much (Original Post) KamaAina Mar 2015 OP
I'll post his last point before someone comes in and proves it for him gollygee Mar 2015 #1
I give up too. bravenak Mar 2015 #2
That makes me so sad. salin Mar 2015 #4
I try to feel bad for them. bravenak Mar 2015 #5
Interesting perspective salin Mar 2015 #6
I always feel sad for bullies. bravenak Mar 2015 #8
+1 valerief Mar 2015 #3
Because white people don't have a frame of reference Matrosov Mar 2015 #9
Don't forget colorblindness as a solution loyalsister Mar 2015 #10
I will admit to being guilty of that until I witnessed it first hand. ieoeja Mar 2015 #11
Nothing in that list I doubt or disagree with whatchamacallit Mar 2015 #7

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. I'll post his last point before someone comes in and proves it for him
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:24 PM
Mar 2015

10. Having white people say we’re exaggerating these issues. This isn’t so much a fear as a chronic and sometimes debilitating annoyance. It seems that no matter how much we can statistically demonstrate that racism is pervasive and damages us on many levels, there are white people who fight us tooth and nail with arguments that life is not as challenging for us as we say it is.

I’ve given up convincing white people about the harsh realities of my life as a black man. I’ll devote that energy to fighting for my black liberation in our very racist society.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. I give up too.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:26 PM
Mar 2015

Many of them already know and enjoy pretending not to b convinced. They like it. It makes some of them feel good to know that we get treated like shit and they never will. Makes them feel better than us.

salin

(48,955 posts)
4. That makes me so sad.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:52 PM
Mar 2015

Not disbelieving you - your comment (and the reality it reflects.) It's bad enough that people don't listen, are ignorant and dismissive. But to play the that game as you describe... pathetic.

*heavy sigh*

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. I try to feel bad for them.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:01 PM
Mar 2015

They'll end up with little brown grandkids and have to explain themselves one day when the kids find out. Facebook, ya know? I imagine people doing their family trees a hundred years from now and finding an asshole in the bunch, calling Obama a monkey or michelle a witch doctor, or denying obvious racism to scream about Al Sharpton, and just hating their ancestors. I wonder if these people know they will be a part of history, and on the wrong side too. They be so proud of their ignorance just like the segregationists. Sad.

salin

(48,955 posts)
6. Interesting perspective
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:09 PM
Mar 2015

and very generous.

Several decades ago I heard Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth speak. He was asked how he could speak about civil rights history (such as the bus bombings, and his church bombing) with so little hatred. He responded that he believed that the whites (included Bull Conners - who pulled him out of the bus before it was bombed) were also seriously harmed by the system - and it was just as important for them to be freed from Jim Crow.

I had to think about that for quite some time. When I visited the Civil Rights Institute in Birmingham and saw a life-size photo of a lynching, with a crowd of white people standing around as if at a party, it came to me. How much damage must harboring such great hate in the soul - find any degree of spirituality, or experience deep love for another human being. How could one (if one is religious) be right with God while harboring such vileness within oneself.

Your comment - albeit from a different angle - rekindled that memory. Thanks.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
8. I always feel sad for bullies.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:22 PM
Mar 2015

They end up paranoid and expecting the worst because they have done it first. Always expecting get back and retribution. I remember the smiling lynchers. Sick souls. Imagine their surprise if there is a god and they meet it. Won't go as expected.
I always remind myself that we won't be here long. History will not forget our deeds. We can lie to ourselves, we can bully the world, but the future will decide who we were. At least we have that. Until then, we fight. All we can do.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
9. Because white people don't have a frame of reference
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:37 PM
Mar 2015

There's nothing in the white experience that compares to what African-Americans go through even in 2015. African-Americans can try to explain it to white people, but white people will never be able to fully understand what it's like.

I don't think this lack of awareness is ignorance itself; what separates the ignorant whites from the open-minded ones is that the open-minded whites will at least make an attempt to understand the black experience as best as possible but at the same time realize it's not possible for them to understand 100%.

The ignorant ones are those who downplay the struggle of African-Americans and pretend like the answer to all of life's problems is 'Go to school, get a job.' Your education and your job don't matter one bit when you're being pulled over by a racist cop.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. Don't forget colorblindness as a solution
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:03 PM
Mar 2015

This example perfectly illustrates what is wrong with that idea. “If you are going to wear ethnic clothing, you should alert people in advance that you will be wearing something ethnic,”

I would not be shocked if such a warning came from a generally well meaning yet clueless individual who wanted to warn other employees in hopes of avoiding conflict.
I think there is more of a willingness to respect a person's impulse to be rude and spew racist epithets than to respect the rights of African Americans to own and be proud of their heritage.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
11. I will admit to being guilty of that until I witnessed it first hand.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:49 PM
Mar 2015

Every time someone said, "I didn't do anything," I took it to mean, "I didn't do anything actionable." Yes, the police are supposed to respect our rights. But they do not. And while they are quicker to act against a Black man speaking up for himself, they are pretty quick to arrest Whites who have the audacity of insisting on our rights as well. See Occupy.

It wasn’t until I saw cops walk into a crowd of people where a disturbance had occurred, grab the sole Black man, cuff him and stuff him in the car, all without the Black man so much as saying one word, that I realized how literal "I didn’t do anything" could be. The entire crowd started to protest, but the Black man asked us to shut up as we would just make things worse for him. Eventually, they realized nothing had happened and turned the guy loose. But it was a really mind-opening experience.

I happened to live a block from a police station with a bar across the street from it where off duty cops hung out. I related that story to several cops. Each and every one of them said, "I would have done the same thing." They made it clear this was normal every day shit. And they thought it was perfectly reasonable.
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