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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/03/16/danielle_hicks_best_says_she_was_raped_when_she_was_11_but_cops_say_all.htmlDespite all this, no young men were arrested for the crime. Instead, Hicks-Best was arrested six weeks later and charged with filing a false police report. She had just turned 12 years old. Hicks-Best denied any guilt but apparently exhausted with fighting according to the Post, allowed an Alford plea, where the defendant accepts that there was enough evidence for a conviction in effect, consenting to the courts finding of guilt, Walters writes. Hicks-Best spent the next few years spiraling out of control, running away and acting out. Now, at age 18, she's trying to get her life back on track and is speaking out about what happened to her.
In 2009, the police and courts thought Hicks-Best was a false rape accuser who was lying to cover up for her naughty behavior. All sex was consensual," one police officer wrote in an email discussing this case with his colleagues. Parents are unable to accept the fact of this childs promiscuous behavior caused this situation.
If you're flinching at the phrase child's promiscuous behavior, you should be. A child, after all, cannot be promiscuous. To be promiscuous requires consent, and 11-year-olds cannot give meaningful consent. The young men accused in this case range from their late teens to 21 years of age, but apparently the idea that womenand girlsare the gatekeepers of sex is so ingrained that the police in this situation thought little of pinning the responsibility for this situation on a girl who is still young enough to play with Barbies.
I will not even call them pigs, lest that be construed as an insult to the porcine species.
trumad
(41,692 posts)If that ain't rape then I don't know what it is.
11 fucking years old. Damn!
trees1planet
(9 posts)This is really Shame to us. Why we can't ensure a child security? Really shame..............
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)the teens and men who had sex with her.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)And I'd particularly like to know if he had any connection to the perps families.
This "promiscuous" BS seems bogus all the way around.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)is that, even if she was somehow "enticing" young men at age 11, those guys must have been pretty sick to begin with to be sexually turned on by a child.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Even if she was "promiscuous"...
Does not the rapist have a will of his own? I mean, if the rapist cannot handle his own actions because of an 11 year old, he needs to be locked up... twice. Being promiscuous is not a crime. Rape is.
It does not matter if it is consensual when it comes to an 11 year old victim and as the article pointed out some of the accused being 21 years of age. I am sorry for what occurred to this young woman and it is more than a black eye of those police officers and the justice system. I have worked in law enforcement and my step-father is a retired chief of police (in my experience the accused would have been arrested, charged, and more than likely sentenced to prison terms for their actions) so this type of atrocious complacency and out right refusal to enforce the law truly enrages me. This is a very sad and disgraceful excuse for police work and why reform is desperately needed.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and after a small amount of digging, my suspicions were confirmed.
Danielle is black.
I didn't dig any further, but I still betcha a paycheck what everyone else's race was...
And that's the real story.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)People overestimate African American children's age, and people of color are seen as hyper-sexual. Racist stereotypes.
yardwork
(61,610 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Black kids are too often treated like adults in our legal system, whether as perpetrators or victims
1monster
(11,012 posts)Rapists and police alike.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Disgusting.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)who is innocent. Certainly Fracked up.
prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)she had been raped and sodomized by multiple assailants.....an ELEVEN year old. This story literally makes me physically ill. Those evil f-ing rapists and cops.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)D.C.?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)maybe their sugar was low and they needed a donut to think correctly.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)atreides1
(16,079 posts)The cops knew the rapists...I'll even go so far as to suggest several if not all, are or were informants for the police in the past!
Why that theory, based on the fact that the cops interrogated an 11 year old child and made a concerted effort to trap her in a lie...sounds like they were trying to protect someone...or the cops were completely incompetent...and in DC that isn't a far stretch!
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I am not sure if they were informants, or if they were related to a cop, or in some other way connected to a cop or a prominent family, but I have no doubt that they were trying to protect someone.
yardwork
(61,610 posts)This is the main reason that many victims don't come forward.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)When you have an eleven year old victim, the issue of consent just does not come into play.
Was one of the assailants a RELATIVE of an officer?? Was one of the assailants a police officer? This appears to be an extreme cover-up designed to insulate the assailants in an overtly illegal manner.
Police have to ask about consent when an adult reports a rape - consenting sexual activity is legal between adults, and thus they must establish that a crime (non-consensual sex) occurred.
But consent is not a legitimate investigative issue with an eleven year old victim. To establish that a crime occurred, one must merely establish that sexual activity occurred - which in this case was clearly established - and then find the adult participants.
yardwork
(61,610 posts)There could be some kind of cover up, but sadly I think that this is a lot more common than we would like to believe.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I think the police officers deserve official punishment for this one.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)So sick of this shit.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)but I know in my state (MO) this is beyond statutory. She was under 14 which, consent or not, is hardcore prison time for many years. Under 14 here does not allow consent and if the other person involved is 21 or over then consent must be at age 17.
(The "under 14" part was a big deal because of the Daisy Coleman case a couple of years ago.)
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)What's so incredible is the second incident! The cops didn't even warn the perps????
Either these laws are not being enforced or the cops involved are corrupt. Either way, someone needs to be held accountable (not the 11 year old).
How can you possibly charge an 11 year old with making false report, when under law the victim would have had to be at least 16 to be able to consent!!! Legally the child could not have consented!!
This is BEYOND shocking.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)She wasn't of age to consent so how could any of it have been a false report? I don't care if she took off all of her clothes, propped herself spread-eagle on a card table and handed out tickets for admission. She was eleven years old which means she was not able to give consent.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)It is also very unlikely that she did even apparently consent to anal and vaginal intercourse, and of course she could not legally consent to it.
This incident should not be allowed to drop. I believe Congress has the mandate to oversee DC - perhaps it is time for us to contact our representatives and make sure it is not. This is an outrage.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)It's insane how this was allowed to happen. No respect for female life-make that a black, underage female. Any alone was bad enough but all together seems to be a guarantee of a lack of justice for the victim.
yardwork
(61,610 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Well, we are told in the article that troubled kids are "brought in" to the penal system as a way of getting them additional services, but can that be done on a basis that seems entirely illegal to me??
This is one of the most haunting and deeply disturbing incidents I have ever encountered. I cannot stop thinking about it, and the implications.
salin
(48,955 posts)two rape kits - two medical affirmations of an assault.
It would be bad enough to get a "there isn't enough evidence to take to trial". But to file charges against her at 12. To push her into an Alford plea?
Sounds like a figurative third gang-rape occurred.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)hunter
(38,312 posts)...two balls and the stick too.
But "cruel and unusual punishment" is against our law.
It's the price of civilization that we don't always follow our first instinct.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)They're gonna come out in Australia soon at this rate.
Scum-sucking shitweasels have more integrity than kkkops.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)She's a child.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)It's automatically statutory rape.
And these fucking pigs deserve to go to hell.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Forcing her into an Alford plea at 12? For being raped?
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)Initech
(100,076 posts)The lunatics have broken out of the asylum. Imagine if we had a truly educated populace that is capable of critical thinking.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Get me off this planet.
It's things like this, and the gopee blackmail initiative against women that make me start thinking about ......things that would get me in trouble.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)^^this stuff^^ makes me wonder seriously about our humanity toward others. Empathy is dead.
MineralMan
(146,309 posts)An 11 or 12 year old cannot consent. She's a child. They arrested her, not the cretins who raped her. Something's rotten where she lives. Rotten to the core.
places like that need a good cleaning, a couple of fire-hoses could get things off to a good start.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)false premises
yardwork
(61,610 posts)She was charged and convicted of filing a false report.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)she was only 12 at the time
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)can't read this shit anymore - children suffering at the hands of bigots. yes, it has been going on forever and we know it exists and we must do what we can to stop them. the doj's report on ferguson has opened another pandora's box of horror and exposed so much vileness. make your votes count. we have to get the vote out - for all.
mackdaddy
(1,527 posts)I agree that the cops were wrong, but then the entire system went bizzaro here.
Children's services, the prosecutors office and whatever judge was involved to convict her of filing a false report with two positive rape kits should all be removed.
And the males were all of true legal age of "late teens to 21"? With and 11 year old in any circumstances is rape.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)This is a terrible deed.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)I was gang raped when I was twelve. My parents didn't believe me. My peers called me a slut in the hallways of school. It wrecked my life! These cops are just covering up for the rapists they are themselves. Assholes, all rapists are uncontrollable assholes!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Those cops, prosecutors, judges deserve a big old gang of slaps and a screaming at from their mothers!
The poor girl, I feel so deeply for her. I know the trauma she suffers. I hope she has a really good therapist. She needs it. Therapy helps a lot.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)What a horrible thing.
I won't come right out and advocate violence, but these cops........................
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Thanks for the compassion. It was horrible. I went from a creative fun smart outgoing person into a ball of mess overnight. Much deep soul searching and therapy have helped tremendously.
samsingh
(17,598 posts)lark
(23,102 posts)Bet they wouldn't think it was due to their promiscuity. I am so fucking outraged right now, I can hardly see through the red glare.
Enthusiast
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LisaL
(44,973 posts)And some of the men were described as adults.
So behavior of the police is really hard to understand here.
She couldn't consent by law.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)So, where are all of those "good cops" to step in an prosecute these child-rapists enablers?
"Good" prosecutors?
No where to be see, OF COURSE.
Yonx
(59 posts)REferring to a child like that should not be accepted in any job.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)around it. WTF is wrong with people? Is there no decency left in this world?
That poor little girl, I can't even imagine what kind of challenges she is going to face as an adult for what has happened to her. People slip into horrible mental illness having gone through less than what happened to her. I hope she gets the help she needs and I hope she is a strong individual.
Luke Zee
(23 posts)RoccoRyg
(260 posts)Why would they leave the location out, or did I miss it?
DC.
Initech
(100,076 posts)niyad
(113,310 posts)may these bastards receive everything they deserve.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I am so mad I could and probably would punch one if I had the chance. However, the problem goes much higher up and is much wider spread. The person at the top of this steaming pile is a judge that should be defrocked or whatever they do when they knock the sob off the bench.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)sakabatou
(42,152 posts)IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)no matter what the child is up to.
disgusting.
The local news in DC also has pics of her kids as she's a teen mom.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)the local news has followed up to see how she is now, and it wasn't good. She's had depression and other difficulties since the rape.
niyad
(113,310 posts)niyad
(113,310 posts)so whatever pics the local news has, she was ELEVEN when this happened. (eleven-year olds are not teens)
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)so she certainly could be a teen mom by now.
But, that's not the point. 11 year olds have no ability to consent, even if they may be acting out. It was the responsibility of everyone else to avoid sexual contact with her-- that's a big part of adulthood. Older guys who see her as convenient for quick sex should pay big time.
niyad
(113,310 posts)she is now a teen mom? the poster seemed to be implying that that was somehow a vindication of the multiple rapes.
Orrex
(63,212 posts)That is, to act like an adult human being rather than as a predatory rapist.
I might have missed it in the article, but I didn't see the age of her attackers listed. Regardless, "young men" seems to imply that that they were old enough to be held responsible for the rape, if the police had acted like police instead of like victim-blaming child-rape-enablers.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)and the ages of the attackers were 16-21, and they should have been held responsible. Yet no one has.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)you clearly did not understand my post at all
niyad
(113,310 posts)of her being a teen mom, as though that has ANY relevance to the multiple rapes when she was eleven.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)she might not be a teen mom right now at 18. Her kids were born a few years ago.
But you're right in assuming that I'm probably a bad person...just in case.
niyad
(113,310 posts)bearing on her becoming a mother so young. she stated so herself in several of the articles I read elsewhere.
no, I don't think you are a bad person, just in case.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and that in no way excuses what happened to her or making any judgement-- just sayin' that she could be a mom now.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)the rape happened in 2009. She's local to DC, so it's been in the news here about how unfairly she was treated back then.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Last fall, after inquiries from The Washington Post, the department launched new investigations into the cases and the way they were handled, according to the Bests and a law enforcement officer familiar with the matter, Walters writes. The Bests are still hoping that the police will charge the young men who their daughter says raped her.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)they never find any wrongdoing, even if there was a lot of it.
niyad
(113,310 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Each time I prepare a reply and upon due consideration realize that reply would get a vote of seven zip on the alert. Then I leave it and wait. I re-read the thread, and my anger surges, and again I have to walk away before I give reason for a hide.
However, suffice to say I find this absolutely infuriating.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Just sayin'.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The girl was eleven, the boys late teens to twenty-one! As far as I know, that's STATUTORY RAPE and it should be prosecuted as such, and it doesn't matter if the girl was promiscuous.
marym625
(17,997 posts)We truly are living in a hell on earth when a child, a baby for god's sake, is punished for being raped.
This strong young woman deserves justice
valerief
(53,235 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)She didn't scream out loud enough when she was raped, hence made it consensual, and a criminal for filing a police report for rape.
I didn't realize that the age of consent was 11 years in that state.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)DC. And the age of consent in DC is not 11!
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I would rain down hell on anyone who possessed the audacity to call her "promiscuous." Monsters.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Goddamn, sometimes I don't have the words ...