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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichigan Pastor Compares Being Gay To Being 'An Ax Murderer'
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/michigan_pastor_compares_being_gay_to_being_an_ax_murdererA pastor at the First Baptist Church of Zeeland, Michigan came under fire after comparing being gay to waking up as an ax murderer. Clint Echols, the Evangelical Baptist church's senior preacher on March 1 was preaching to his congregation to support an amendment to the church's bylaws
Pastor Echols defiantly read anti-gay passages from the bible to his congregation and stated it was not hate speech.
But it was his personal interpretation of the bible that caused an uproar.
"Sexuality is commonly seen in American culture to be an internal compass that a person discovers as he develops as a person today, OK?," Pastor Nichols told his congregation. "So the movement that contradicts biblical sexuality has really changed its foundational thesis, and said, no, its an internal compass and a person can discover their sexuality at any moment. It may be at 10, it may be at 20, it may be after theyve been married for 10 years and have two kids and then they say, Oh, wait a second, Im gay; Im bisexual; I want to change my gender, these things. And thats being true to themselves and being true their internal compass, Pastor Clint Echols said about 41 minutes into the sermon. And so, for instance, if on another, completely other playing field, if tomorrow I woke up because Ive got this internal compass thats telling me what truth is, tomorrow I wake up and say, Oh, I think Im an ax murderer, and now Im an ax murderer, would you be happy with that? Would you agree? Would you want me to follow that internal compass?"
Pastor Echols defiantly read anti-gay passages from the bible to his congregation and stated it was not hate speech.
But it was his personal interpretation of the bible that caused an uproar.
"Sexuality is commonly seen in American culture to be an internal compass that a person discovers as he develops as a person today, OK?," Pastor Nichols told his congregation. "So the movement that contradicts biblical sexuality has really changed its foundational thesis, and said, no, its an internal compass and a person can discover their sexuality at any moment. It may be at 10, it may be at 20, it may be after theyve been married for 10 years and have two kids and then they say, Oh, wait a second, Im gay; Im bisexual; I want to change my gender, these things. And thats being true to themselves and being true their internal compass, Pastor Clint Echols said about 41 minutes into the sermon. And so, for instance, if on another, completely other playing field, if tomorrow I woke up because Ive got this internal compass thats telling me what truth is, tomorrow I wake up and say, Oh, I think Im an ax murderer, and now Im an ax murderer, would you be happy with that? Would you agree? Would you want me to follow that internal compass?"
Oh, so that's the point of "So I Married An Axe Murderer"!
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Michigan Pastor Compares Being Gay To Being 'An Ax Murderer' (Original Post)
KamaAina
Mar 2015
OP
I consider being a clergy member to being an ax murderer. But that's just me. nt
valerief
Mar 2015
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valerief
(53,235 posts)1. I consider being a clergy member to being an ax murderer. But that's just me. nt
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)2. not exactly what he said
he basically reduced sexual orientation to a choice. That opinion is not supported by any psychological evidence so it is probably an example of faith-based psychology.
But he did not compare being gay or transgender to being an ax murderer, except insofar as saying that he feels they are all choices.
By the way, Pastor Nichols may not realize this but there are no references to homosexuality in the 4 Gospels. Jesus said nothing about the matter.
Initech
(100,076 posts)3. Or the sequel: "So I Gay Married An Axe Murderer".
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,996 posts)4. Huh?