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tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:07 PM Mar 2015

what is wrong with people...

On a crowded train on my way home from work I was sitting in those seats that face one another. Most of us regular commuters have a monthly ticket that we just display for the conductor, but one young woman sitting in this same group of seats handed the conductor her ticket. She had an off peak ticket so the conductor informed her that she would need to pay the extra $4 required to make the peak fare.

The young lady, from out of town as it turns out, said she had no cash but offered to pay with a credit card - the railroad doesn't take credit cards on the train. The woman conductor then said, and I quote, "IN THE BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD, WITH ATMs EVERYWHERE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CASH!?" I don't know why so many of the conductors behave this way, but there are quite a few that do.

I couldn't let it pass. I told the conductor "Don't speak to her like that, it's uncalled for." And then the conductor tells me "this is between her and me." To which I said, "no it's not you're being rude."

Another guy sitting with us gave the young lady the $4 to pay the additional fare and the conductor, butts in again and says, "I hope you take this man's address and repay him." Again, wtf, I couldn't let it go and expalianed, "now THAT is none of your business and is between HIM and HER." Not sure the conductor gave a fuck, but...

I hate assholes... too many of them to count these days, it seems.

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what is wrong with people... (Original Post) tk2kewl Mar 2015 OP
Good for you for standing up for another person! n/t prayin4rain Mar 2015 #1
yeah... some things just can't be tolerated tk2kewl Mar 2015 #5
From Terms of Endearment FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #2
yeah... not everyone from New York is a dick though tk2kewl Mar 2015 #4
Of course not FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #8
not everyone from New York is a dick though AlbertCat Mar 2015 #19
We must be losing our edge - LiberalElite Mar 2015 #25
John Callahan cartoon said it well uppityperson Mar 2015 #48
dang... that sucks ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #3
I basically only get cash if I expect to be on a toll road or some other out of ordinary reason. alphafemale Mar 2015 #12
Great retort! VWolf Mar 2015 #42
Thank you for speaking up.... daleanime Mar 2015 #6
So many people want to put a claim on your world, Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #7
Love that. RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #31
Thanks. Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #32
Could that have been the LIRR, by any chance? KamaAina Mar 2015 #9
yep tk2kewl Mar 2015 #13
Proud of you and yes he/she was being an asshole. But NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #10
Somebody was a great model for humanity that day... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #11
thanks... tk2kewl Mar 2015 #16
Now we have Conductors conducting themselves exactly the same inhuman power-hungry way who want to be President. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #14
Half are below average SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #15
tk2kewl, you are too cool! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #17
"IN THE BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD, AlbertCat Mar 2015 #18
And there are bigger cities anyway tk2kewl Mar 2015 #20
Really, I'm surprised a conductor in Chongqing would be so rude. tclambert Mar 2015 #26
His mom must be so proud. Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #21
Did he look like Ernest Borgnine? BeanMusical Mar 2015 #22
Two nice people on that train with her TNNurse Mar 2015 #23
Good for you. It's not always easy to leave the comfort of anonymity. I hope I can GoneFishin Mar 2015 #24
I will say I'm often amazed at how many people never have any cash on them. SheilaT Mar 2015 #27
so true. barbtries Mar 2015 #28
she did she... she was very sweet and visiting from Austin tk2kewl Mar 2015 #29
Thank you for standing up for her. Triana Mar 2015 #30
Some people live to demean the poor or the vulnerable Tsiyu Mar 2015 #33
What surprises me about this situation Jenoch Mar 2015 #34
yep... tk2kewl Mar 2015 #35
It's assholes from sea to shining sea. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #36
Agreed!!!! I recently had the girl at the drive-thru at McDonald's throw my order at me. jillan Mar 2015 #37
well, from your story only 1/3 suck, so thare is more than a little hope. SQUEE Mar 2015 #38
Authoritarian assholes are attracted to jobs where they get to be authoritarian assholes. hunter Mar 2015 #39
Maybe the conductor deals with that all day, every day The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #40
A little bit of power goes to the heads of small-minded people. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #41
she needs to be reported Skittles Mar 2015 #43
^this^ Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #44
report her and she'll probably be fired jcboon Mar 2015 #46
They have been programmed by exposure to Faux Noise and it's henchmen. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #47
Amazing how the best in us comes out in the worst situations d_legendary1 Mar 2015 #49
Well, you gave her a nice story to take back home with her Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #50
One asshole, but . . . Richard D Mar 2015 #51

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
2. From Terms of Endearment
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
Mar 2015

Sam Burns: You're a very rude young woman. I know Douglas from the Rotary and I can't believe he'd want you treating customers so badly.

Checkout Girl: I don't think I was treating her badly.

Sam Burns: Then you must be from New York.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
3. dang... that sucks
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
Mar 2015

i never carry cash. i am the doofus sort when it comes to "foldin' money" and i have lost more than my share.

my retort might have been, "in this most technologically advanced society, YOU don't have a way of accepting credit cards???"

sP

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
12. I basically only get cash if I expect to be on a toll road or some other out of ordinary reason.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:30 PM
Mar 2015

I despise it.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
42. Great retort!
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:37 PM
Mar 2015

How insane is it that you can use a CC on an AIRPLANE, 30,000 feet above civilization, but you can't on a TRAIN, down in the midst of it?

Baitball Blogger

(46,715 posts)
7. So many people want to put a claim on your world,
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:12 PM
Mar 2015

without doing anything worthy to earn that role in your life.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. Could that have been the LIRR, by any chance?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:15 PM
Mar 2015

Conductor: "All tickets!"

Me (Metro-North regular but LIRR newbie): (silence)

Conductor: (at maximum volume) "I SAID ALL TICKETS!!"

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
13. yep
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:33 PM
Mar 2015

There are some really nice conductors, but also some real jerks. A couple of months ago I left my wallet on the counter in the morning and I was answering email on my phone when the conductor came by I told him I forgot my wallet. He asked if I had any money and I tol him no that's in the wallet. So he says sarcatically "but you didn't forget your phone did you?" Can't just give you the form to fill out to be billed, they have to berate you too for some reason.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
10. Proud of you and yes he/she was being an asshole. But
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:17 PM
Mar 2015

Working people everywhere are under such pressure, that while I would have hoped I would have done exactly what you did, what I would not do or never do is report working people to their supervisor (not saying you did, you are just giving me an opportunity to make this point) unless they are way way out of bounds.

I always tell people when I am pissed at something that it isnt their fault, they are just trying to earn a living.

But no excuse for this conductor to act this way, but given the stress we are ALL under as the 99%, I am surprised it isnt a whole lot worse

I salute you and your fellow passenger

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
11. Somebody was a great model for humanity that day...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:20 PM
Mar 2015


Yeah…. I've got so many asshole stories, but I like the way yours ended. Good for you and the person that offered the 4 bucks.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Now we have Conductors conducting themselves exactly the same inhuman power-hungry way who want to be President.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:37 PM
Mar 2015
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
15. Half are below average
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:44 PM
Mar 2015

Half below average in each measure

Kindness
Intelligence
curiosity
ability in any endeavor




 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
18. "IN THE BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD,
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
Mar 2015

YOU AREN'T SET UP FOR CREDIT CARDS??????





(Just to play devil's advocate..... Imagine how many people trying to get out of paying by acting dumb.... and more.... he may have had to put up with)

The trick is to not care what he thinks.

Of course I would have come back with what I said above.... and probably added, "I guess that's too complicated for conductors to handle."

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
26. Really, I'm surprised a conductor in Chongqing would be so rude.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:33 PM
Mar 2015

At first, I thought Tokyo. It has the largest metropolitan area population of 37.8 million, but inside the city limits it only has 9 million. Chongqing (what we used to call Chungking) has about 28.8 million.

Okay, I'm sure the incident was in New York, because America must have the biggest of everything. Yet, according to those foreign lovers at Wikipedia, New York only ranks 25th by population. By area, it isn't even the largest in the United States.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
23. Two nice people on that train with her
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:12 PM
Mar 2015

you and the guy with the $4.

I hope others cheered for the both of you.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
24. Good for you. It's not always easy to leave the comfort of anonymity. I hope I can
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:17 PM
Mar 2015

be as bold the next time I see a situation like that.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
27. I will say I'm often amazed at how many people never have any cash on them.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:46 PM
Mar 2015

I mean, I would never suggest carrying large amounts, but at least twenty bucks.

However, there are plenty of people out there who never have cash on them, and what is appalling is that the train isn't set up to take a credit card.

I know I would have immediately pulled out my walled and given the conductor the four dollars for the woman. And if she wanted my address to pay me back, I'd just tell her to pay it forward someday.

barbtries

(28,796 posts)
28. so true.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:33 AM
Mar 2015

sometimes i consider what a war mongering government we have. we are essentially the bully of the world. i don't know if the world is different or i'm just more tuned in, but it just seems so goddamned MEAN. they say shit runs downhill. i don't know. thank you for stepping up for the woman, i know it's between you and her, but i hope she thanked you.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
29. she did she... she was very sweet and visiting from Austin
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:54 AM
Mar 2015

nothing like getting a taste of the big city.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
33. Some people live to demean the poor or the vulnerable
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 10:20 AM
Mar 2015

This woman is invested in being a "better" person. I call her sort the Moral Elite.

God talks to them, but hates the rest of us.

They never make mistakes ( not any to which they will ever, as long as they live, admit ) and you must pay dearly if you make one.

They come in all genders and sizes and hues and creeds.

But there's nothing wrong with people, because most of us aren't that way.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
34. What surprises me about this situation
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 10:36 AM
Mar 2015

is that in the larvest city in the world, the train tickets can be purchased using USD instead requiring the tickets to be purchased using yen.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
37. Agreed!!!! I recently had the girl at the drive-thru at McDonald's throw my order at me.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:11 PM
Mar 2015

Yes, I was hungry enough to get a wrap & fries.... and that's hungry!

The girl gave me the wrong order. When I sat there at the closed drive-thru window waiting for her to come back, I told her that she gave me someone else's order & gave it back to her.
So she threw the bag with my order at me.

You betcha I called that phone number on my receipt before I even left the parking lot.

I despise assholes.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
38. well, from your story only 1/3 suck, so thare is more than a little hope.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:20 PM
Mar 2015

You stood up for her, and called out an asshole, and someone else helped her pay..

Good on you for not just letting it slide, and good for the guy chipping in to help pay.

hunter

(38,313 posts)
39. Authoritarian assholes are attracted to jobs where they get to be authoritarian assholes.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:26 PM
Mar 2015

On the other hand I'll bet this conductor would get in trouble with his boss if he didn't make a big scene with every non-paid or underpaid rider. Knowing the way many businesses work in the U.S.A., I'll bet the railroad occasionally sends out spies to test their employees.

Polite insistence and problem solving are rare skills, and it's part of U.S.A. culture to become highly indignant if they think anyone is getting a "free ride."

People who can't pay the fare for any reason must be punished.


The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
40. Maybe the conductor deals with that all day, every day
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:30 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe she doesn't, and is just an asshole.

She was right that it was between her and the women without the cash. You're right that the cash transaction was between her and the guy that gave her $4. Both arguments were going nowhere, but the cash saved the day.

Response to tk2kewl (Original post)

jcboon

(296 posts)
46. report her and she'll probably be fired
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:35 PM
Mar 2015

Her employer is the ass here. Conductors are union. . .cut her some slack.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
47. They have been programmed by exposure to Faux Noise and it's henchmen.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 03:19 PM
Mar 2015

See asshat, be asshat.

Be a good example, people are watching.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
49. Amazing how the best in us comes out in the worst situations
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

Thank you for being a shining example of what it is to be human.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
50. Well, you gave her a nice story to take back home with her
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

about how there are nice people in a city that we are told has none. Two people were nice to her. I am sure you made her day.

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