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Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:39 AM Mar 2015

Marcy Wheeler: Petraeus free, in Iraq last week - 'A pretty potent symbol of our own corruption'

Chelsea Manning Warned of Nuri al-Maliki’s Corruption in 2010. David Petraeus Didn’t Listen.

March 20, 2015 | by emptywheel


____In early 2010, Chelsea Manning discovered that a group of people the Iraq’s Federal Police were treating as insurgents were instead trying to call attention to Nuri al-Malki’s corruption. When she alerted her supervisors to that fact, they told her to “drop it,” and instead find more people who were publishing “anti-Iraqi literature” calling out Maliki’s corruption...

At the time, David Petraeus was the head of CENTCOM, the very top of the chain of command that had ordered Manning to “drop” concerns about Iraqis being detained for legitimate opposition to Maliki’s corruption...

(excerpt from article today where Petraeus is in Iraq complaining that the deadly Shiite militias he and the Bush gang enabled into power and authority in Iraq are now a greater threat than the ISIS forces they also enabled through their invasion and destabilizing dismantling of the Baathist government)

Q: What went wrong?

Petraeus: The proximate cause of Iraq’s unraveling was the increasing authoritarian, sectarian and corrupt conduct of the Iraqi government and its leader after the departure of the last U.S. combat forces in 2011. The actions of the Iraqi prime minister undid the major accomplishment of the Surge. (They) alienated the Iraqi Sunnis and once again created in the Sunni areas fertile fields for the planting of the seeds of extremism, essentially opening the door to the takeover of the Islamic State. Some may contend that all of this was inevitable. Iraq was bound to fail, they will argue, because of the inherently sectarian character of the Iraqi people. I don’t agree with that assessment.


Unlike Manning, Petraeus adheres to a myth, the myth that this war was not lost 12 years ago, when George Bush ordered us to invade based on a pack of lies, when Petraeus and his fellow commanders failed to bring security after the invasion (largely through the priorities of their superiors), when Paul Bremer decided to criminalize the bureaucracy that might have restored stability — and a secular character — to Iraq.

Of course, Petraeus’ service to that myth is no doubt a big part of the reason he can seek to influence public opinion from the comfort of his own home as he prepares to serve his 2 years of probation for leaking code word documents, documents far more sensitive than those Manning leaked.

Which is, of course, a pretty potent symbol of our own corruption.


read more: https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/03/20/chelsea-manning-warned-of-nuri-al-malikis-authoritarianism-in-2010-david-petraeus-didnt-listen/
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Marcy Wheeler: Petraeus free, in Iraq last week - 'A pretty potent symbol of our own corruption' (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2015 OP
Is David Petraeus Dirty? Ted Westhusing Said So, and Then He Shot Himself. Octafish Mar 2015 #1
Recommend read for background...n/t KoKo Mar 2015 #2
Petraeus is where he is BECAUSE he's dirty. nt valerief Mar 2015 #3
But it can't be proven that his mistress passed on any of the classified info, so it's OK! Doctor_J Mar 2015 #4
David Petraeus’ Defense Attorney Argues Mistress-Biographers Have More Legal Privilege than Defense bigtree Mar 2015 #5
I was shocked and saddened when Thom Hartmann rusty fender Mar 2015 #7
wow. Surprising coming from Hartmann. Doctor_J Mar 2015 #8
Saturday kick. johnnyreb Mar 2015 #6

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Is David Petraeus Dirty? Ted Westhusing Said So, and Then He Shot Himself.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:46 AM
Mar 2015

Col. Westhusing was in charge of training the new Iraqi army and overseeing civilian contractors.
He is remembered as a good man, a brilliant man who followed the Cadet Code:
"I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do.”



Col. Westhusing was the Army's chief ethicist and someone who suspected something was wrong with David Petraeus, way back when. Then, just when he was about to come home to his loving wife and family, he became a suicide.



Is David Petraeus Dirty? Ted Westheusing Said So, and Then He Shot Himself

By Melina Hussein Ripcoco, Brilliant at Breakfast
Alternet.org
April 8, 2008

Ted Westhusing, was a champion basketball player at Jenks High School in Tulsa Oklahoma. A driven kid with a strong work ethic, he would show up at the gym at 7AM to throw 100 practice shots before school. He was driven academically too, becoming a National Merritt Scholarship finalist. His career through West Point and straight into overseas service was sterling, and by 2000 he had enrolled in Emory University to earn his doctorate in Philosophy. His dissertation was on honor and the ethics of war, with the opening containing the following passage: "Born to be a warrior, I desire these answers not just for philosophical reasons, but for self-knowledge." Would that all military commanders took such an interest in the study of ethics and morality and what our conduct in times of war says about our development as human beings. Would that any educational system in this country taught ethics, decision making, or even political science that's not part of an advanced degree anymore.

Ted Westhusing, the soldier, philosopher and ethicist, was given a guaranteed lifetime teaching position and West Point by the time he had finished with his service and his education. he felt like he could do more for his country by trying to shape the minds coming out of the academy that were the ones that would be military commanders. He had settled into that life with his wife and kids, when in 2004 he volunteered for active duty in Iraq, feeling like the experience would help his teaching. He had missed combat in his active duty and it seemed like an important piece for someone who not only philosophized about war, but who was also preparing the military's future leaders.

But more than that, he was sure that the Iraq mission was a just one; he supported the cause and he bought the information that was put in front of him. Considering that vials of powder were being tossed around hearings by the highest level of military commanders how could he not? This was a man who was so steeped in the patriotism of idealistic military fervor that he barely could fit in regular society. His whole being was dedicated to this path, and he was proud to serve his country.

Once in Iraq, he found himself straddling the fence between a questioning philosopher and an unquestioning soldier. Westhusing had thought he was freeing a country in bondage, keeping America safe from a horrible threat, and spreading democracy to a grateful people. But the reality of what was happening in this out of control war was too much for him. His mission was to oversee one of the most important tasks left from the war; retraining the Iraqi military by overseeing the private contractors that had been put in charge of it.

As the assignment went on he found that everywhere he looked he was seeing corrupt contractors doing shoddy work, abusing people, and stealing from the government. These contractors were being paid to do many of the jobs that would normally be done by a regulated military, and they bore out the worst fears of those who don't believe in outsourcing such vital work. He responded to the corruption that he saw by reporting the problems up the line, but the response from his commanding officers was disappointing. He had, for much of his career, idolized military commanders, and in that assignment he found himself with some of the military's most famous faces, doing the most important job, but he was terribly disappointed and alarmed to realize that they were greedy and corrupt themselves.

CONTINUED...

http://www.alternet.org/story/81678/is_david_petraeus_dirty_ted_westhusing_said_so,_and_then_he_shot_himself

COMPLETE ORIGINAL ARTICLE: http://www.ripcoco.com/2008/04/is-david-petraeus-dirty-ted-westheusing.html



Marcy Wheeler has more guts than the entire Washington press corps.



They have yet to note what kind of official also makes money off war.
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. But it can't be proven that his mistress passed on any of the classified info, so it's OK!
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:11 PM
Mar 2015

- Actual claim on DU

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
5. David Petraeus’ Defense Attorney Argues Mistress-Biographers Have More Legal Privilege than Defense
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015

March 20, 2015 | By emptywheel

In a letter to the NYT complaining that the paper compared his client, David Petraeus, with Stephen Kim and John Kiriakou, defense attorney David Kendall implicitly makes the argument that mistress-biographers have a better recognized privilege to access classified information than defense attorneys. (h/t Steven Aftergood via Josh Gerstein)

...his letter is ridiculous on both the facts and his rebuttal of the comparison, at least as it pertains to John Kiriakou.

First, Kendall omits key facts in his depiction of Petraeus’ crimes...

He notes the plea deal “makes clear that ‘no classified information’ from his ‘black books’ … appeared in the biography.” That’s a very different thing than claiming that no classified information Petraeus shared with Broadwell appeared in her fawning biography of his client — and the record seems to suggest that it does.

Kendall also neglects to mention that this case is also about his client, just days after applauding Kiriakou’s plea, lying to the FBI. While, through the good grace of Kendall’s lawyering, Petraeus has gotten off scot free for a crime that others do years of prison time for, Petraeus nevertheless admitted that he committed that crime.


more: https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/03/20/david-petraeus-defense-attorney-argues-biographers-have-more-legal-privilege-than-defense-attorneys/

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
7. I was shocked and saddened when Thom Hartmann
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 02:11 PM
Mar 2015

used that very same argument when arguing that what Petraeus did was fundamentally different than what Manning did, which, thereby made Petraeus' plea agreement understandable.

Petraeus' plea agreement makes sense only in the context of, in our justice system, knowing who a person is rather than what a person did.

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