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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:23 AM Mar 2015

UVA Student Martese Johnson Was Using Actual ID, Roommate Says

Source: ABC News

UVA Student Martese Johnson Was Using Actual ID, Roommate Says

Mar 20, 2015, 9:43 AM ET
By LINSEY DAVIS, KATHERINE FAULDERS, DAN GOOD and MEGHAN KENEALLY, LINSEY DAVIS, KATHERINE FAULDERS, DAN GOOD and MEGHAN KENEALLY via GOOD MORNING AMERICA

The roommate of Martese Johnson, the black University of Virginia student whose head was bloodied during an arrest near the campus, said he believes the use of force was likely race-related, and that his friend was using his actual ID while trying to enter a bar on the night of the incident.

“There is nothing he could’ve said or done that could provoke an officer of the law to assault him in such a manner,” Joshua Kinlaw told ABC News.

The roommate also said it’s common for the university’s underage students to try to enter bars.

“I am aware that Martese does not own a fake ID,” Kinlaw said. “So the ID that he actually showed to both the bouncer and to the ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Control) officers was his real ID. Now because the age on that ID shows him to be 20 years old, I think that’s when dispute and discrepancies came in,” Kinlaw said.

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UVA Student Martese Johnson Was Using Actual ID, Roommate Says (Original Post) Eugene Mar 2015 OP
Seems strange whatthehey Mar 2015 #1
Obviously he wanted rusty fender Mar 2015 #2
Since we can be pretty sure that's neither true nor implied whatthehey Mar 2015 #3

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
1. Seems strange
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:23 AM
Mar 2015

If your real ID shows you to be underage why would you bother showing it to a bouncer/cop?

I've worked the first part of that job plenty in my youth and underage guys would just mumble something about forgetting IDs or walk away once they saw IDs being checked at the door. I can't recall one just saying "here you are I just wanted to show you I can't legally come in here. Thanks!" What would the point of that be?

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
3. Since we can be pretty sure that's neither true nor implied
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:42 AM
Mar 2015

The question remains why he would use a real ID showing him to be underage. I suppose it could just be sheer carelessness in that he picked the wrong one up from his dresser on his way out and left his fake ID at home. Or perhaps he knew other bouncers at the same place and had been able to get in with an underage ID before but hadn't planned on finding an unfamiliar guy at the door. Perhaps this bar doesn't always check IDs. These are certainly plausible, but still raise the question of why he would get all the way within grabbing range of the bouncer before noticing either. It's unusual behavior. Again the "nah let's go somewhere else" turnaround is the norm in these cases in my experience.

It should, but in this strange area of professional outragees apparently doesn't, go without saying that this does not warrant violence in return, so I guess I need to waste keystrokes saying it. I have seen obvious fake and "missing" and borrowed IDs from older kids who look nothing like the one in front of me many times. My response of "Nope can't let you in" has always been the result rather than a take-down on concrete. Just never come across somebody waving an underage ID at me for no apparent reason. My response would have still been the nope not the bodyslam, but can't say it ever happened.

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