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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 12:47 PM Mar 2015

Obama White House Blasts Mitch McConnell For Telling States To Break The Law

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/20/obama-white-house-blasts-mitch-mcconnell-telling-states-break-law.html

Obama White House Blasts Mitch McConnell For Telling States To Break The Law
By: Jason Easley
Friday, March, 20th, 2015, 12:19 pm


The White House is laying into Mitch McConnell after the Senate Majority Leader wrote a letter to the nation’s governors telling them to ignore new EPA rules.

In his letter to the governors, McConnell wrote:

Some have recently suggested that failing to comply with the EPA’s requirements would be to disregard the law. But the fact is, it is the EPA that is failing to comply with the law here. By requiring states to submit a plan aimed at achieving a lower emissions target based upon four so-called “building blocks” — (1) improved power plant efficiencies, (2) switching electricity generation sources, (3) building new generation and transmission, and (4) reducing demand — the EPA is overreaching, as its authority under the Clean Air Act extends only to the first building block related to source specific energy efficiency upgrades.

….

This proposed plan is already on shaky legal grounds, will be extremely burdensome and costly, and will not seriously address the global environmental concerns that are frequently raised to justify it. Moreover, declining to go along with the administration’s legally dubious plan will give the other two branches of government time to address the proposal and will not put your state at risk in the interim. It will provide time for the courts to rule on whether the EPA’s proposed rule is legal, and it will give Congress a chance to address numerous concerns surrounding this latest power grab by the EPA.

The White House fired back via spokesman Frank Benenati, “Climate change is one of the most pressing challenges that we face, and instead of offering solutions, Sen. McConnell’s alternative is an inappropriate and unfounded attempt to dictate state decisions. While Sen. McConnell and the other climate deniers in Congress will do everything they can to block or hinder the administration’s progress on climate change, the administration is committed to moving forward to tackle climate change head on because science, history, and the American people are on our side.”

Sen. McConnell is openly telling states to violate federal law. There has been a great deal of public outrage over the 47 Republican senators who sent a letter to the Iranian government, but little has been said about the Senate Majority Leader trying to undercut the federal government by advising states to break the law.

Republicans have learned nothing from the Affordable Care Act debacle. Republican governors believed that they could stop the ACA by refusing to set up their own exchanges. They are applying the same failed principles to the EPA’s new rules. If states don’t submit compliance plans, the EPA will do it for them. McConnell is advising states to take away their own power.

What Mitch McConnell is trying to do is worse than when Speaker Boehner invited Netanyahu to address Congress. McConnell is actively trying to undermine the Executive Branch of the federal government. McConnell is urging states to break the law. The Republican Party is quickly becoming a lawless enterprise that exists for the sole intention of undermining President Barack Obama.
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Obama White House Blasts Mitch McConnell For Telling States To Break The Law (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2015 OP
Called Old Codger Mar 2015 #1
When will the major newspapers start telling this??? movonne Mar 2015 #12
I'm pretty sure it's in the NY Times today NJCher Mar 2015 #17
Finally! Someone is calling them on their corrupt practices. Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #2
The ACA gave states the option to set up their own exchanges but didn't require them to do so. PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #3
Your mindreading skills are failing you. Scuba Mar 2015 #4
Correct. onenote Mar 2015 #14
the right wing is a lawless political party. they think rules don't apply to them. spanone Mar 2015 #5
Recommend. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #6
... Scurrilous Mar 2015 #7
"quickly"? We done passed that 7 years ago.. Cha Mar 2015 #22
IF YOU or I turbinetree Mar 2015 #8
the reality is that notwithstanding the overheated rhetoric, he's not advocating breaking the law onenote Mar 2015 #11
Don't blast him; have him arrested. FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #9
RICO Act! n/t albino65 Mar 2015 #10
Why is this not sedition? PADemD Mar 2015 #13
Because among many reasons, it's not advocating doing anything illegal onenote Mar 2015 #16
His descendants will suffer the same as ours Marthe48 Mar 2015 #15
What they don't get is that they are not immortal. vlyons Mar 2015 #20
The Republican Party is quickly becoming a lawless enterprise that exists for the sole intention of" randr Mar 2015 #18
They are really something, aren't they, the Republicans. namastea42 Mar 2015 #19
McConnell: "The EPA is overreaching"?? red dog 1 Mar 2015 #21
I say "keep overreaching, mitch.." come on, you do it.. keep stretc------hing! Cha Mar 2015 #23
It's about coal greymattermom Mar 2015 #24
"becoming"? riqster Mar 2015 #25
Finally A Backbone!! markmyword Mar 2015 #26

NJCher

(35,673 posts)
17. I'm pretty sure it's in the NY Times today
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:16 PM
Mar 2015

I read hard copy, and I think it's on the front page. I have a cold, though, and my thinking's not the clearest.

Anyway, I wanted to scream "outrage." These @$#$s are really pushing the envelope. This is not our system of government. Their behavior is unprofessional in the extreme. They need to go back to civics class.

President Obama should not have to put up with this.


Cher

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
2. Finally! Someone is calling them on their corrupt practices.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:14 PM
Mar 2015

Yes. Republicans break the law. Where government is involved, there is no law that will contain them. They respect nothing but their racist agenda to always stay on top by gaming the system where they can.

It's been this way in local government for the two decades that I have been observing their practices. And Thirdway Democrats that play along are not helping the matter.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. The ACA gave states the option to set up their own exchanges but didn't require them to do so.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:32 PM
Mar 2015

If states have the legal option to not submit compliance plans (as you imply in your post) then they aren't breaking
the law by not doing so.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
14. Correct.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:52 PM
Mar 2015

It's not illegal for a state not to submit a compliance plan to the EPA, but it does trigger a consequence -- the imposition on the state of a plan developed by the EPA. By the way, the rules aren't in effect yet -- assuming they go into effect as scheduled, the due date for state to submit final plans (or initial plans with requests for an extension) will be in the summer of 2016 at earliest.

http://www2.epa.gov/carbon-pollution-standards/fact-sheet-clean-power-plan-carbon-pollution-standards-key-dates

The reality is that McConnell isn't really urging non-compliance with a mandatory requirement. He's urging that the states choose the option of not developing their own plans knowing that if enough states do that, it would overload the EPA with the burden of coming up with plans for the states.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
7. ...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:58 PM
Mar 2015
"The Republican Party is quickly becoming a lawless enterprise that exists for the sole intention of undermining President Barack Obama."


That about sums it up.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
8. IF YOU or I
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:13 PM
Mar 2015

were to ignore a law, we would be in jail, we could be charged under a number of laws and rules.
Just because he "thinks' he is leader does not give him the right to do harm to other people to violate the rules, thats not how it works no matter how his ALEC buddies think its so.
IMPEACHMENT should now be on the table, its time for a petition.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
11. the reality is that notwithstanding the overheated rhetoric, he's not advocating breaking the law
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:41 PM
Mar 2015

First, the rules are still in the proposal stage. They haven't been adopted.

Second, the proposed rules call on states to develop and submit plans for reducing the state's carbon footprint. But not submitting such a plan isn't a "violation of law" in that the rules simply provide that if a state doesn't submit a plan, then the EPA will develop a plan for the state.

Clearly, what McConnell is trying to do is slow down the implementation of rules he doesn't like by making the federal government develop plans that would be better developed by the states themselves.

If this sounds similar to what happened with state implementation of the ACA...well, it kind of is...


(And Senators can't be impeached).

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
13. Why is this not sedition?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:50 PM
Mar 2015

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

onenote

(42,703 posts)
16. Because among many reasons, it's not advocating doing anything illegal
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:56 PM
Mar 2015

The proposed rules (which haven't been adopted) give states a choice -- submit plans for reducing the carbon footprint by a specific deadline (mid 2016 if the rules are adopted) OR don't submit a plan and have the EPA craft one for the state.

Obviously McConnell's game is to encourage states to toss this back to the EPA figuring it will overburden the EPA and implementation will be delayed until after judicial challenges to the rules are resolved.

So what McConnell is doing is urging states not to comply with an requirement that isn't mandatory. And that can't possibly be sedition (even if any of the other many reasons this isn't sedition didn't apply).

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
15. His descendants will suffer the same as ours
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:54 PM
Mar 2015

What the hell do these people not get about the environment? If they think there is really going to be a 'Rapture' I have my doubts that they'll be lucky enough to land on the winning side of that. They cut NASA/space exploration, so flying to a new planet is right out. Whoring doesn't work for the long term. Oh yes, and McConnell is a traitorous bastard and I hope he ends up spending his miserable life rotting some jail.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
20. What they don't get is that they are not immortal.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 04:40 PM
Mar 2015

Oh they know "theoretically" that one day they will die, but that's a long way off (or so they think). They also believe that the accumulation of money is such an overwhelmingly virtuous and noble endeavor that all other activities are insignificant in comparison. They don't give a rat's raw ass about anything but money. Yes even power, as wonderful as it feels to weild, is but a means to accumulating more money. These are the exact same types of people, the money grubbers, that Jesus drove from the temple in Jerusalem. The high priests in Jesus' time were the oligarchs, who kissed Roman ass to stay in control of the temple and collect taxes. Money money money money money. That's all that matters to them. You and me, our children and grandchildren, are just idiots to be exploited, cheated, and fear-mongered.

randr

(12,412 posts)
18. The Republican Party is quickly becoming a lawless enterprise that exists for the sole intention of"
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:40 PM
Mar 2015

increasing the wealth of the people who own them!

 

namastea42

(96 posts)
19. They are really something, aren't they, the Republicans.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:45 PM
Mar 2015

What the hell is going on this is all so ridiculous. What is their end goal? Are they human?

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
21. McConnell: "The EPA is overreaching"??
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

No, shit-for-brains, YOU are "overreaching"..and you may have gone too far this time.

How long will this treasonous GOP bullshit be allowed go on?

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
24. It's about coal
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:31 AM
Mar 2015

All of the political ads in Kentucky are about coal. They will be losing a lot of jobs, and there's nothing to replace them. What's really needed are some manufacturing jobs in coal country, both east and west Kentucky.

markmyword

(180 posts)
26. Finally A Backbone!!
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:57 AM
Mar 2015

Finally the Obama Administration is standing up to these Republican Thugs!!

Call them out for what they are, bullies, thugs, intimidators, traitors, warmongers. Benedict Aronalds, anti-Americans, racists, anti-woman, anti-poor, anti-middle class, anti-science, anti-intelligence, Confederates who wish THEY won the Civil War, Etc. The list goes on and on.

The White House needs to hit them back right away and call them out for who they are. The bullies will as bullies, do back off!!

Keep the rhetoric strong and forceful and go for the jugular with these kinds of people!

It's TAKEN nearly SIX YEARS for the White House to fire back at these TRAITORS to this country.

The Republicans have put their party, their money, their greed and HATRED for this president over the good of their country and that's unforgiveable.

Breaking the law, is that what Mitch is trying to have governors do? Does that mean Jail Time?? Haven't members of the Occupy movement been arrested for less?

Keep that BACKBONE !!!

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