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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:22 PM Mar 2015

“Gentlemen, this is a robbery." The Great Boston Art Heist

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composite of works stolen

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Rembrandt's Storm on the Sea of Galilee

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empty frame that held Vermeer's The Concert

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The Concert by Vermeer

Twenty-five years ago, In the early morning hours of March 18, 1990, a pair of thieves disguised as Boston police rang the night buzzer at Boston’s Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum and spoke to the guard on duty ...“We’re police officers. We’re responding to a disturbance.” The guard, a new hire, broke protocol and allowed them entry through the Museum’s security door.

Once inside, the thieves asked that the guard come around from behind the desk, claiming that they recognized him and that there was a warrant out for his arrest. The guard walked away from the desk and away from the only alarm button. The guard was told to summon the other guard on duty to the security desk, which he did. The thieves then announced that it was a robbery, handcuffed both guards and took them into the basement where they were secured in separate places to pipes, with their hands, feet, and heads duct taped.

What happened next was the subject of a lecture by Anthony Amore, the Gardner’s security director, which I attended, at the Gardner this past week. Amore presented a step by step timeline of the thieves 81 minutes --99.9% of art heists last only about 7 1/2 minutes! -- inside the gallery, providing updated information and listing common myths that have developed over the years. The good news is that Amore believes that after 25 years, the museum has reasonable certainty that they will once again regain the 13 art works, valued at half a billion dollars.

The thieves major focus was on taking the Rembrandt’s in the Collection, which were located on the 2nd Floor Dutch Room. Amore explained that works by Rembrandt are targets of more robberies than any other master. The typical art thief knows that Rembrandt is very famous and his paintings are worth a lot of money. Such thieves are also typically unaware that they cannot sell them like other high value items through underground criminal fencing operations. Their only buyer is the robbed museum.

Of the Rembrandt pieces stolen, the major one was “Storm on the Sea of Galilee” the artist’s only seascape. An etched self portrait of the artist the size of a postage stamp was also taken.

Vermeer’s “The Concert” is the most valuable stolen object in the world, since only about 35 known works by the artist exist in the world today.

The five Degas works depicting a horse and jockey indicates that one of the thieves had an affinity for horse racing. Amore characterizes this as a “trophy” theft.

Another probable trophy theft was the bronze finial on the pole of a Napoleonic silk flag (or perhaps mistaken for gold).

“Chez Tortoni” by Manet. It is a mystery to the museum about its taking since the motion sensors, which picked up all of the other movement by the thieves, recorded no trace of this one.
Here is Amore’s list of common misperceptions about the robbery:

*Security at the museum was not lax or insufficient. The museum’s surveillance technology was state of the art at the time. The thieves stole the museum’s surveillance VCR, but investigators recovered the printout of the motion detector’s timeline showing when the thieves entered and left each room.

*the paintings were not hacked away from their frames with knives while on the walls. A box cutter or other fine edged razor was almost certainly used and frames were found lying flat on the floor (rehung later by museum staff).

*cut out paintings can be put back.

*the guards are not dead.

*the stolen art is not on the walls of an evil billionaire. It is a myth perpetuated by Hollywood movies -- it never happens in art thefts.

*the I.R.A. had nothing to do with the theft.

*the works are probably not scattered. The investigators believe them to be in the general area of Boston. However, they don’t believe the thieves have any control of them at this point.

*the FBI and the Massachusetts U.S. Attorney’s office are not offering the thieves a “get out of jail free card” if they return the art. However, the museum is hoping to get the attention of those who might have or know the whereabouts of the art by publicly offering a $5 million reward.

In 2013 the Museum announced that it knows who stole the art and believes that time is on their side. There is a new effort to enlist the active participation of the Mayor of Boston, the Governor of Massachusetts and Cardinal O’Malley in appealing publicly to whomever might have the art to return it.

A virtual tour of the track of the theft through the Gardner Museum is here

http://www.gardnermuseum.org/resources/theft

A big read here from a Boston Globe reporter who has worked on this story for 20 years:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2015/03/11/does-connecticut-shed-hold-secrets-gardner-heist/LHOwffI4jrOegKupbLdHwJ/story.html

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“Gentlemen, this is a robbery." The Great Boston Art Heist (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 2015 OP
Fascinating and horrifying, my dear CTyankee. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #1
I'm sure he was but those guards don't make a lot of money so the job takers CTyankee Mar 2015 #4
Last week 2naSalit Mar 2015 #10
god, how sad for him! CTyankee Mar 2015 #12
Agreed. 2naSalit Mar 2015 #17
The museum is quite confident that they are close to finding the art... CTyankee Mar 2015 #19
That is true. 2naSalit Mar 2015 #21
Not sure what the concern is with the 1%... CTyankee Mar 2015 #24
Hmmm 2naSalit Mar 2015 #36
You've pretty much described the gist of "The Thomas Crown Affair." CTyankee Mar 2015 #37
Interesting... 2naSalit Mar 2015 #38
I also like to read good fiction about art heists. CTyankee Mar 2015 #39
It does sound 2naSalit Mar 2015 #40
I wish my knowledge was vast. I just know what I have picked up due to amateur interest. CTyankee Mar 2015 #41
Ever read, "The Loo Sanction" by Trevanian? FSogol Mar 2015 #44
No, I haven't. I'll look it up at the library...thanks for the tip! CTyankee Mar 2015 #46
PS, Have you ever thought of publishing a collection of your short takes on art history? FSogol Mar 2015 #47
No, I haven't, altho you flatter me! I don't think I'm that good an art critic. CTyankee Mar 2015 #48
Shades of Abu Ghraib -- blame the lowest-level person but ignore any KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #29
The Museum seems more defensive about the charge of lax security than just CTyankee Mar 2015 #31
They robbed the whole world. Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #2
Yes, I heard the radio interview with the museum's now retiring director who specified the CTyankee Mar 2015 #3
Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. As usual, CTyankee. longship Mar 2015 #5
So well said and I could not agree more. As soon as I see the name I cannot wait to see monmouth4 Mar 2015 #9
oh, longship! Thank you. I hope you know that this is a joy for me to post... CTyankee Mar 2015 #13
has the criminal statute of limitations run out? bluestateguy Mar 2015 #6
Good point! Amore said that the statute of limitations at the time on art theft was CTyankee Mar 2015 #7
I'm gonna guess Scott Brown. KamaAina Mar 2015 #8
Yeah, how old was that guy in 1990? CTyankee Mar 2015 #11
I remember visiting this museum so many years ago before the theft, juxtaposed Mar 2015 #14
By any chance, did you go to Northeastern U.? I have one daughter whose BA is from CTyankee Mar 2015 #25
No, but my sib's,, some did,,No I went to a private school back then juxtaposed Mar 2015 #42
My dtr who got her master's from NE is a Mount Holyoke grad so we love the CTyankee Mar 2015 #43
The five Degas works depicting a horse and jockey Unknown Beatle Mar 2015 #15
I think their reasoning has to do with the level of criminal here. CTyankee Mar 2015 #20
The Gardner was a client of mine 7wo7rees Mar 2015 #16
Yes, in going over my notes from the lecture, Amore was stressing more that the CTyankee Mar 2015 #30
I bet this guy has them Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2015 #18
Nah, it's this guy CTyankee Mar 2015 #26
I always thought that the thieves went in with a 'shopping list'.... Princess Turandot Mar 2015 #22
Amore was most emphatic about the crooks not getting that "get out of jail free" CTyankee Mar 2015 #23
My thoughts were that if some of the paintings were now in the possession of relatives... Princess Turandot Mar 2015 #27
OK, yes, the investigators won't charge people giving up information according to CTyankee Mar 2015 #28
An interesting mystery treestar Mar 2015 #32
Really frustrating, isn't it? CTyankee Mar 2015 #33
Reading the thread a little more I see there have been some leads treestar Mar 2015 #34
yep, that's the fear all right, based on what I've read... CTyankee Mar 2015 #35
Someone in the upper crust 1% and/or the criminal underworld definitely knows... Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #45
nix on the upper crust 1% idea...investigators say that never happens in these CTyankee Mar 2015 #49
Good post! Agschmid Aug 2015 #50
I didn't realize they "know" who stole the art. It sure isn't something that can be easily sold. still_one Aug 2015 #51
I hope the mayor is following up with Cardinal O'Malley and Red Sox team stars in CTyankee Aug 2015 #52

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts)
1. Fascinating and horrifying, my dear CTyankee.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:28 PM
Mar 2015

Two points I'd like to make:

1. I hope they get the paintings returned.

2. I hope the new guard who broke protocol was fired.

K&R

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. I'm sure he was but those guards don't make a lot of money so the job takers
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:37 PM
Mar 2015

for overnight duty are scarce. The guard's HUGE mistake was in not following protocol. But he was some kid who played in a band. So was the other guard...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. god, how sad for him!
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:42 PM
Mar 2015

He was a kid. I get that he just didn't have much of a clue as to what he was guarding.

The Museum lays heavy blame on him. But I think their training had to be considered faulty. I know they had a low pay scale for overnight guards but this kid was guarding half a billion dollars worth of art! A museum just can't do that and just say well, he broke the protocol. There has to be more awareness and training given such people...

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
17. Agreed.
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:57 AM
Mar 2015

Seems their training standards were pretty low. The thieves had uniforms and badges, the guy made a mistake and that's what happened. Back then training for many obs of that kind were more like an afterthought than anything we think of today.

Just a sad case all around. I love the museums in Boston, used to visit them often when I was back in New England.

I do hope the paintings will be recovered in my lifetime but I doubt they will.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. The museum is quite confident that they are close to finding the art...
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:34 AM
Mar 2015

they said that historically with art heists, the art is either recovered immediately or a generation later and it has now been a generation. They know a lot. I have the feeling that they are waiting for certain individuals to have family members who will talk.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
21. That is true.
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:37 AM
Mar 2015

I do hope they are recovered. My concern is the level of greed among the 1%ers may make things harder. The 1% club is a rather tight knit little group...

I do hope though.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. Not sure what the concern is with the 1%...
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:24 AM
Mar 2015

when the art is found it goes back to the museum...there is no "evil billionaire" as Amore puts it. That's just a myth promoted by movies like "The Thomas Crown Affair" which is a lot of fun as movie fiction but completely untrue in RL art thefts.

If you mean the 1% would vy to buy the returned art, I am sure the Museum would never consider selling it. And I don't see the benefit for the 1% to do so...they could never get bragging points for displaying it in their homes.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
36. Hmmm
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:56 AM
Mar 2015

never saw that movie, and many others. My thoughts, when posting, were that I had some mental image of some individuals with means to have acquired these works of art back when the crime took place might have a next generation who have no inclination or conscience to return them. Given the current situation where the very wealthy seem to have no concern for humanity in many ways, I can imagine that it may not be this next generation of wealthy to be inclined to return them and, instead, just keep them. And I get the sense that it could have been a financed robbery and the works would have been delivered directly to the financier and never place on the black market to begin with. As for bragging rights, I can also imagine that there are some who would be able to do that and never be exposed.

I am certain that you are correct about them never being sold by the museum should they ever be recovered.

As I said, just a thought... hope it's not like that.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
37. You've pretty much described the gist of "The Thomas Crown Affair."
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 02:27 PM
Mar 2015

It was a fun movie to watch. It has a very clever ending. There were two of them. An early one back in the late 60s with Steve McQueen and a 1999 version with Pierce Brosnan.

here are more
http://www.blouinartinfo.com/news/story/34760/the-top-5-art-heist-films#

I remember a film called The Best Offer with Geoffrey Rush playing a wealthy art auctioneer and a mysterious woman who seduces him and eventually makes off with everything in his collection. I never saw it advertised in movie theatres. I saw it on my flight back from Tuscany a year ago. It was actually creepy, tho...

So this is a real movie genre. No wonder we have ideas about masterminds plotting these heists.

The reality is so drab. From what I've read, these thieves are pretty grungy characters.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
38. Interesting...
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 11:47 AM
Mar 2015

My older brother, all of two years older, made me watch all kinds of movies while growing up, and he was fascinated by this kind of robberies. As an adult I had little access to movies watching, I think I missed quite a few good ones. (Really, the last of that genre I can recall watching was Entrapment. I liked that one.

I think you're right about the unspectacular manner of the actual event. I vaguely remember when the robbery happened but I don't recall any details. I'm glad you brought it to our attention so we can learn more about it.

The other movies on that list look interesting.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
39. I also like to read good fiction about art heists.
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 12:36 PM
Mar 2015

I find them thrilling. Lots of darting around famous museums in the dead of night, master plots and how they trick the museum guards...I like it because I have been to lots of famous museums and know a bit about them and what art works they have in them. I think there are some museums or tour groups that follow the "trail" of those novels. People love it...

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
40. It does sound
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 12:51 PM
Mar 2015

like a thrilling genre, I like thrillers and brainy kind of reading. But I love the arts, most of them, and I have a love of antiquities too. Alas, there are too many for me to fully explore them all so in some areas I have limited knowledge. I am glad you share your vast knowledge here, I think it's also important that you. Thank you.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
41. I wish my knowledge was vast. I just know what I have picked up due to amateur interest.
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 01:16 PM
Mar 2015

Just saw a paper back on sale in my supermarket entitled "Heist" and I think it is a new one by Daniel Silva, IIRC. I'll have to go looking for it. I like his stuff.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
44. Ever read, "The Loo Sanction" by Trevanian?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:45 AM
Mar 2015

It is the sequel to the "The Eiger Sanction" and is kind of a literary spoof of the James Bond character. The protagonist, Dr. Jonathan Hemlock is a CII assassin, mountaineer, and art historian/Professor.

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One of the characters robs museums by breaking in, removing a painting and leaving behind a vandalized copy in its place. It is never reported stolen, only vandalized. The vandalized copy is restored by the museum and any problems with the fake are passed off as being caused by the repairs. The painting is then sold to a private collector.















FSogol

(45,485 posts)
47. PS, Have you ever thought of publishing a collection of your short takes on art history?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:10 PM
Mar 2015

You could call it, "Short Takes on Art History", or "Short Tales of Art" or something. Keep it accessible for the layman, cover whatever styles/pictures/and stories you want.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
48. No, I haven't, altho you flatter me! I don't think I'm that good an art critic.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:16 PM
Mar 2015

When I read Schama or Schjehldahl I get thoroughly intimidated.

So I am content just being a bit creative and trying to spread the art history and my little tries at ekphrasis so folks at DU can enjoy it. That's what makes me very pleased!

But thank you for your kind words. I will think about it...

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
29. Shades of Abu Ghraib -- blame the lowest-level person but ignore any
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:48 AM
Mar 2015

managerial lapses which, in this case and Abu Ghraib, are HUGE! Blame the person or persons least able to defend him- or herself. It's as American as apple pie.

Great OP btw - engaging and informative.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
31. The Museum seems more defensive about the charge of lax security than just
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:54 AM
Mar 2015

blaming the guard. It remains true that he went against protocol, but he was victimized, too, and feared for his life.

To this day there is a disagreement between the two guards as to which thief had the fake mustache.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. They robbed the whole world.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

I believe it was CNN that ran a special on this? I could be wrong, but whoever it was,
it was a fascinating account which included interviews with the guard at the time.

The sad thing is, other than the obvious loss, they're worried that whoever has
the paintings may not be storing them properly..so very worried about damage if they are
ever found.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. Yes, I heard the radio interview with the museum's now retiring director who specified the
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:35 PM
Mar 2015

exact temperature and humidity that the art needed several times. I think it's wonderful that the museum is still hoping.

Poor Isabella. She absolutely was in love with the Vermeer and considered it her greatest achievement to outbid a competitor at auction for it.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. As usual, CTyankee.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

Will click through to get the whole story.

Such passions as yours should be justly rewarded. I only hope that they are.

You bring beauty to DU and your Friday posts are always sought out, hopefully by many here.

monmouth4

(9,705 posts)
9. So well said and I could not agree more. As soon as I see the name I cannot wait to see
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:23 PM
Mar 2015

the post. This was most interesting...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. oh, longship! Thank you. I hope you know that this is a joy for me to post...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:47 PM
Mar 2015

I get to live the art once again as I collect images and write about them. It's a labor of love.

There was a moment in the lecture when Amore showed the frame that had held the Vermeer and after he identified it a real gasp went up from the audience. He said "I know. It's hard to take." He knew this crowd pretty well....and I knew I was in good company...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. Good point! Amore said that the statute of limitations at the time on art theft was
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:02 PM
Mar 2015

5 years, but holding stolen art was longer. The Museum lobbied for, and got, a longer time (I believe 15 years) for stealing art. And you still can't hold it and traffick in it for too much longer.

I guess the thieves felt they were pretty safe if they got it and disposed of it quickly. Five years ain't bad.

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
14. I remember visiting this museum so many years ago before the theft,
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:12 PM
Mar 2015

I went to school a few blocks from it. I do not condone the theft of art or anything.
I've dealt in art most of my adult life and know most levels of dealers and collectors, layers of types of collectors & dealers on all ends.. I've seen both sides of collecting and selling. I love mysteries , I love great train robberies, and great art heists...
These pieces will return someday, Such renowned works are only temporarily displaced. I hope!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. By any chance, did you go to Northeastern U.? I have one daughter whose BA is from
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:26 AM
Mar 2015

Northeastern and another with a Master's in Journalism from it. The school has gotten more popular as the years go on. Boston is a great college town!

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
42. No, but my sib's,, some did,,No I went to a private school back then
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:38 PM
Mar 2015

My family were Brown and Radcliffe women.
The art comes from a life time of being part of it ,collecting, doing, being there??

Living with women artists opens ones eye's and mind.. I could go on.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. My dtr who got her master's from NE is a Mount Holyoke grad so we love the
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:12 AM
Mar 2015

Seven Sisters here. My son graduated from Columbia so that kind of rounds out the Ivies for us. His father was a Harvard man (cough, cough) and pretty insufferable about it.

I like the Yalies here in New Haven myself. I just wish we could win "The Game" one of these years....it's at the Yale Bowl this year and hope springs eternal...

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
15. The five Degas works depicting a horse and jockey
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:11 PM
Mar 2015
indicates that one of the thieves had an affinity for horse racing.

Or maybe not. He could just as easily had an affinity to Degas work in general. How many Degas were there in the museum the day of the robbery? If more than five, many the five that were stolen were in the in the same room and easier to steal.

My point is, they don't know if the thieve had an affinity for horse racing.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. I think their reasoning has to do with the level of criminal here.
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:37 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:29 AM - Edit history (1)

They know a LOT about the underworld of the thieves. To me, it makes perfect sense that the thieves would not know a Degas from a hole in the ground. The race track, OTOH, would be a very familiar place.

Plus, according to Amore, the investigators have concluded that the Degas theft was a sort of "opportunity grab," snatched as the thieves were leaving the scene...

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
16. The Gardner was a client of mine
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:27 PM
Mar 2015

I was working for a television production company making security training videos, and my job was to sell them to facilities all over greater Boston. I sold the Gardner early in my career to the security director Lyle Grindle, who was also director when the theft took place. He told me this story and explained why they didn't fire him: they knew he'd done everything possible at the time to prevent a theft. They gave him a bigger budget instead, and he became a pioneer in museum security for the lessons everyone learned along the way.

Fascinating story and a helluva guy. The art will return someday, I hope. Thanks for posting!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
30. Yes, in going over my notes from the lecture, Amore was stressing more that the
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:48 AM
Mar 2015

huge problem was the guard's decision to let the thieves in the museum in the first place...his point was that the security wasn't lax. The guard made a wrong decision by opening that security door...

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
22. I always thought that the thieves went in with a 'shopping list'....
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 06:58 AM
Mar 2015

This still seems to me like an odd heist for a Mafia organization to do, if they didn't already have a customer lined up for them. It occurred several years before the web made researching things like art easier, so they would've needed to give up some shoe-leather to do so, at the library etc., to decide on their own what to steal.

Of course, it could also have been the rogue actions of a member of the suspected crime organization. (The guy who is currently reputed to have masterminded the theft was a low level member of a Massachusetts crime 'family'.) And the FBI's vaguely described belief that the paintings are in two specific states, may mean that they know who bought them, as opposed to whose attic they might have been dumped into.

At this point, if the statutes of limitation haven't already run out, getting that Vermeer back might be worth just giving immunity from imprisonment to whomever was involved, given that no one was physically hurt in the caper.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. Amore was most emphatic about the crooks not getting that "get out of jail free"
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 07:15 AM
Mar 2015

card. However, there may be some benefit if they give up information. Also, Amore declined to say whether the thieves themselves are alive or dead. But he stressed that either way the art work is no longer in their control and the investigators are talking and have talked to lots of people in that underworld in Boston. There is some hope that more can be learned from someone who is after the $5 million reward.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
27. My thoughts were that if some of the paintings were now in the possession of relatives...
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:39 AM
Mar 2015

of people originally involved in the theft, immunizing the current 'owners' from any charges if they turned over the paintings would make sense.

The reward has been around for awhile now, without anyone coming forth with more info. Of course, if an organized crime family was behind the thefts, people in the know might be afraid to help.

Hopefully the paintings are not being stored with Jimmy Hoffa, wherever the hell he is!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. OK, yes, the investigators won't charge people giving up information according to
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:45 AM
Mar 2015

one of the newspaper articles I read on the theft. The point about a generation passing indicates to me that they think someone down the line, who might not have even been born at the time of the theft, finds he/she in possession of knowledge about their whereabouts and a fresh trail opens up. I sure hope that is the case!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. An interesting mystery
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

And the art is still missing. Anyone could try for that 5 million. But who'd know where to start? After all these years.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. Really frustrating, isn't it?
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:02 AM
Mar 2015

I'm pretty sure they have plenty of "starts" or at least the retiring museum director referenced them that she experienced over the last 25 years. She's been at this for all those years! It's like her life work. But wotta story that is! There are lots of books about this incident, but only read the most recent ones...earlier books contained errors that my lecturer corrected in his talk.

And yes, I do kinda take this personally!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
34. Reading the thread a little more I see there have been some leads
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:05 AM
Mar 2015

The real shame is the art gets sort of hidden. And the concern about whether they are being taken care of properly is there - the right humidity, etc.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. yep, that's the fear all right, based on what I've read...
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:14 AM
Mar 2015

It's interesting. One columnist for the Boston Globe thinks not just Cardinal O'Malley, the Governor and Boston's mayor should be involved. They should also get Dave Ortiz and Tom Brady involved in a public appeal to the people who may know where the art can be found. Appeal to Boston citizens pride...after all, even the underworld is populated with Bostonians and the museum guards did say the thieves had Boston accents...

Here is the article, if you are interested

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-37738676.html

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
45. Someone in the upper crust 1% and/or the criminal underworld definitely knows...
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 11:24 AM
Mar 2015

The question is, will $5 million be enough to get someone to come forward?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
49. nix on the upper crust 1% idea...investigators say that never happens in these
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:46 PM
Mar 2015

heists, just in Hollywood movies. The art is somewhere out there and there whereabouts are known by the underworld criminal class so eventually someone is going to crack and collect the $5 million. The police know who the thieves are, so they probably have a pretty good handle on what goes on with their contacts...

still_one

(92,190 posts)
51. I didn't realize they "know" who stole the art. It sure isn't something that can be easily sold.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 11:57 PM
Aug 2015

I thought it was problem in a private collection, and I also suspected it was an inside job

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
52. I hope the mayor is following up with Cardinal O'Malley and Red Sox team stars in
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:21 AM
Aug 2015

continuing to get the word out about the $5 million reward. And I hope the artwork isn't too damaged after all these years, but I am worried still...

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