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Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:48 PM Mar 2015

If someone questions your sanity, isn't that grounds for a defamation lawsuit?

Florida employee 'punished for using phrase climate change'

An employee of Florida’s environmental protection department was forced to take a leave of absence and seek a mental health evaluation for violating governor Rick Scott’s unwritten ban on using the phrases “climate change” or “global warming” under any circumstance, according to a complaint filed against the state.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/mar/19/florida-employee-forced-on-leave-climate-change

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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
15. Not sure who you'd complain to about that
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:09 AM
Mar 2015

"My boss is an asshole" is not a charge that will get you very far.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
6. You are correct. Let me clarify...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:59 PM
Mar 2015

How can rick scott essentially stop people from using the phrase climate change?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. I do not think he can, but apparently he can even before a Court rules on it....
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:04 PM
Mar 2015

A lawyer should have already filed for an emergency Constitutional motion for a stay of the sudden change in policy, and then have Scott explain in Court by say next Friday, speech restriction lifted until then, and then explain why this apparent gag order is not a gross violation of the 1st....that would be fun.

Or Better Call Saul.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. No, but it might be grounds for...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

some other suit along the lines of wrongful termination.

It's certainly grounds for publicizing the Governor as a dumb shit, although I understand his problem with telling Miami and the Keys that they will eventually be underwater.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Better Call Saul - then impeach Scott for denying science and threatening death to most of Florida.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:07 PM
Mar 2015

Before folks in The Keys never get a chance to defend their homes from climate change - by impeaching Scott tomorrow.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
11. Is FL a right to work state?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

If so, they could fire you for saying the word hello and you wouldn't have a leg to stand on. In a RTW state, your so-called job security is based on your bosses mood that day.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Don't know but this reminds me of the 70s and the USSR. Lots of the oposition ended up in mental
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:41 PM
Mar 2015

institutions then.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. I'd say: yes, it is grounds
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:44 PM
Mar 2015

But then look at who is doing the act of making the statement. Scott is telling someone they can't use words that are well known and completely believable words, as concerns climate science. It is Scott who needs the mental exam.

Round and round we go. Maybe there is too much round-up in the food?

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
14. I think there is more to this than a simple First Amendment issue.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:37 PM
Mar 2015

The employee is not a public figure. I suspect Rick Scott is in more legal hot water than he realizes.

This won't be the end of it.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
16. Scott's gone overboard
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:25 AM
Mar 2015

Telling a public official that he can't use public words to describe a public meeting?

The employee is a public official. He would not be doing his job properly were he to follow the demands of Scott and not use the proper terms in describing the words used at a public meeting.

Lets just hope the press doesn't throw Scott a life saving device as they are so apt to do with overboard republicans.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. The eval requirement strikes me as discriminatory, arbitrary and capricious
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:43 AM
Mar 2015

I'm not a lawyer, but apart from the other issues that alone should be subject at least to administrative appeal. Mr. Bibler probably is getting or being offered plenty of legal help to sort through his options and determine what recourse he has.

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