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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK.I thought the DOJ would step in in Alabama about ignoring federal law.
Several states are following suit about various topics and threatening to ignore SCOTUS and Federal Court decisions.
It's past time for somebody or entity to come up with a strategy to squash this. The more it spreads the harder it will be to stop.
The Feds may have squashed ignoring climate change by withholding FEMA funds. Some states are considering expand Medicaid because of federal money they may forfeit.
Do something and soon.
anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)They are only hurting their own residents.
Why don't the people of Alabama do something about the people THEY Elected?
Why should outsiders come in and fix the problem created by the voters of Alabama?
What is it they say down South...'Da Lord helps those who help themselves.......'
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)This cannot be allowed to stand. If it does, they get to pick and choose what laws they want to follow. Then other states follow suit. It is a recipe for disaster.
Adhering to federal law is one of the main tenets of a union of states.
anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)union of states?
Fine by me, if they want to leave they can, I don't care.
I know I am not the only one who feels this way.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)and their neighbors who are no longer interested in living under the current arrangement be part of the current union?
If you are so opposed to AL and the rest of the regressive states staying then perhaps the North East and West Coast should states leave instead or do the Blue states need to be around so the Red states can survive because the majority of them cannot even support themselves?
I see noting positive at all in continuing with the current arrangement of the 50 states we have now.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Cut off their Federal money
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)By the way, such a proposal has already been deemed unconstitutional, i.e. cutting off Medicare funding in states that refused to set-up health insurance exchanges under the ACA. If a state refuses to participate in a federal program the feds can withhold funds for that particular program so the state cannot repurpose those funds but the feds cannot withhold funds to other programs.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...the notion that their citizens should be left to defend against their state officials defying federal law is a question answered as far back as the debate over the 'slaughterhouse case.' The 'outsiders' are the federal government which has an obligation to defend those citizen's rights to protection and benefit under federal law.
Your prescription goes to the heart of some of the most important civil rights battles of our time. It's remarkable (but not surprising anymore) to hear such an unknowledgeable and historically regressive assertion as yours.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)You have several federal hearings and suits going on....it will get sorted, and the judiciary may call upon the Marshalls and the DOJ for enforcement.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)While most of the Federal District Courts overturned the bans on same sex marriages, the 5th and 8th District Courts upheld such bans. As a result, I believe that Federal law won't be 'settled' until SCOTUS hears/decides the related cases in April. In the school desegregation cases, President Eisenhower, and later JFK, ordered the Army and/or state National Guards to help implement desegregation under the authority of various US Supreme Court's decisions, not district court decisions.
The circumstances were also different in the public school cases. Local authorities were barricading the school buildings to stop the black kids from entering, and more importantly, those very brave kids' lives were being threatened. Those types of issues can be addressed by the actions of the National Guard. I'm not sure what the National Guard could do in the marriage equality cases right now. They can't issue marriage licenses or physically force the probate judges to do so, or physically force the jerks on the Ala. Supreme Court to withdraw its orders.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I am not sure that this can be rolled back (not the marijuana, the states kicking back).
By far the biggest state rebellion of our time has been over marijuana, and that in defiance of both federal law and an SC decision.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The feds aren't going to crack down on Alabama only to then have the SCOTUS side with Alabama.
If the SCOTUS rules for marriage equality, you'll see movement in this standoff.