Meaning, those who can afford $25,000 per plate fundraisers and are staunch supporters of Wall Street and wars without end for profits without cease.

Don't forget her other BFF, Blankfein, who should be in prison for the rest of his life for financial crimes against humanity. Her best friends seem to include a lot of the worst people on the planet.

The Clintons certainly have been well-rewarded for their countless services to the plutocrats.

I didn't call them out for special mention.

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We're even.

Boy, am I ready for someone else.

Your "Love for GW Bush” section links to an article written by a libertarian Ron Paul supporter that links to Breitbart.com and the Washington Times as its “sources”. (On her website, she says she wants government “out of Wall Street’s pocket.”) And nothing in that article backs up the claim that Hillary “praised” Bush.

Your “Love for Jeb Bush” section links to Glenn Beck’s website. The quote comes from her speech after receiving an award from the National Constitution Center – of which Jeb Bush happens to be chairman of the board. So he presented the award and she said Thank You. What an OUTRAGE! (By the way, the video in your link was made by a right-wing group attacking Jeb Bush for associating with Hillary.)

Black and white hat games are for GOP children, not Democrats.

She's taking a hard right turn before she even announces her candidacy.

Well, we'll see how THAT works out for her.

Pretty clever, actually.

That's the sweet spot where you maximize the percentage of the vote you can get and more importantly than that even, not needlessly antagonize wealthy donors.

Some will excuse anything, I guess.

as we can all see from the vitriol in these posts... Nothing left for them but addled rants and name calling.... and ignoring the wreck the GOP made of America and all the thing they did which they blame her for doing. Like that email thing...

But for the less astute:

Ms. Clinton made a very smart political move here, and Henry admits it. It one simple move she has fractured the GOP, by getting the support of one of its elder statesmen. She is giving the saner GOPers a reason to vote for her, and the nutcase GOPers (many are here) reasons to throw a hissy fit and attack Kissinger's crowd for palling around with the enemy. She knows effin well that the GOP has an internal civil war going on, and the more she can do to make that war worse and last longer, the more it will help her come election time. and, who knows, maybe by that time the crazies from the GOP will have disgusted enough Repubs where they will vote for her, just to keep a crazy Repub out of the White house.

Now to the diarist - all these loaded words, spin, wildly inflated accusations are doing is making us doubt your sanity. You go to unhinged (see- I love using your techniques on you) lengths to call a simple response to Jeb's thanks for her service,in which she responds in kind (and I call it damning Jeb with faint praise) "Love for Jeb Bush". Let me clue you into something you may have forgotten about, and that is called tact. Or maybe here, Strained politeness.

And as far as "love for Little Bush", W actually did a couple of things that were praiseworthy during his reign, and the AIDS relief programs was one of them. I can't recall the other one, though, but I think it had something to do with falling off a bike or clearing brush.

But a couple more of these rabid anti Hil posts and I am going to suggest the diarists going to the vet for some shots. Or maybe xanax.... You guys are going to have to face facts: right now, there is no one better qualified to be President than Ms. Clinton. The GOP has a clown show and Democrats do not have anyone with the experience she has, domestically and internationally.. Don't forget for a second that she has already battled the GOP for nation health care when Mr. Clinton took office, from almost the day she stepped into the White house. Finally, here's one more thing: she knows how the GOTP and the Koch brothers operate. Maybe she has been talking to President (I love to type that out) Obama, about how to beat them at their own game. But this move she made, getting Kissinger to say that about her, is a stroke of political genius.

OK, now you Hil haters can resume your poo flinging...

The truth is the truth. Hillary is a member of the Bush family. We would be insane to elect her.

they are they are.

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Ugh.

I am not one of them.

But he despises both Henry Kissinger and Hillary Goldman-Sachs Clinton. LOL

You really think that after Obama tried being nice to republicans for 6 of his 8 years before seeming to abandon it recently (of course only after democrats lost the house and senate) and actually try to address issues directly, that what you propose is the brilliant strategy that you assert it to be. However, to me it seems more like who she is and not strategy. She is a neocon-neoliberal and believes in corporate and business solutions.

If you are right and its some strategy, it does not seem like a good idea. Might be better to have someone who is not playing chess and just fighting directly for democratic issues.

Hillary must be doing something right.

Sid

on what's happened in politics since 1996.

The "saner" GOPers will rip their own arms off before pulling the lever for Clinton.

Also, there is not a vast unrepresented middle in the US anymore. She is appealing to the valley in between the two parties. Also known as our party's strategy in 2014 and 2010 and 2004 and 2002 and 2000....

But so far, that approach hasn't seemed to generate one.

She picked one issue at hand than said something positive about G.W. Bush. The very opposite of bush bashing.Bush said just before his departure ,"I want my president to secceede because I want my country to succeed.
She will ignite the flame by going after a broken down leadership lacking do nothing GOP demonstrating it or they cannot possibly
fix itself after the damages done.Working across party lines is the key to her message. She is preparing to announce her
candidacy. Damage control and a little fire fighting before the heat gets turned up.

She's out in front of it now and thats the way it is.

I can do the same thing with a host of politicians saying nice things about their opponents, even those we find unappealing, if not down right odious.

I guess the Kennedys just loved Ronald Reagan:

setting us back even farther. To the conservatives you represent, its easy to see why you might think that is "normal".

So was Ted Kennedy influenced by George Wallace, Ronald Reagan, and Gerald Ford, all gentlemen, he said and did nice things for.


It's part of being a politician...Every successful one does it.

definition Donald Trump or Mitt Romney both who have achieve massive personal success by being popular with Wall Street, is a logical choice to run as Hillary's running mate.

You are suggesting that because somebody says or does nice things for an opponent he or she is politically aligned with them. If you believe that it there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

What does charisma and Donald Trump have to do with my argument?

while staying silent on Democratic Party values of justice, outsourcing jobs to Asia, unions, demilitarization, 4th amendment protections against unwarranted surveillance, gun control, NAFTA, TPP, Israeli violence, occupation, settlements and Israeli influence in American government, and the list goes on.

Was Ted Kennedy pandering to his conservative base when he gave a Profile In Courage Award to Gerald Ford for pardoning Richard Nixon?






Was Barack Obama pandering to his conservative base when he praised Tom Coburn:

"The people of Oklahoma have been well-served by this 'country doctor from Muskogee' over the past nine years, and I'm confident that Tom's strength and optimism will carry him through the battles to come,"

He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like, you know, with all the excesses of the 60s and the 70s, and government had grown and grown, but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people just tapped into -- he tapped into what people were already feeling, which was, we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.

TPP, NAFTA and more jobs to Asia and Mexico?
Importing Asians for US jobs via H1B?
Air pollution regulations?
Banking reform?
Prosecution for Wall Street crime?
Still spiraling health care costs? Especially for those in company plans?
Spiraling education costs?
Israeli violence and meddling in US Goverment affairs?
4th amendment protections against NSA surveillence?
Torture?
Police state abuses such as the 100s of Fergusons all across the US.


These are critical values and principles that might differentiate her from her Republican opponents.

I knew where Ted Kennedy stood.

Hillary Clinton is no Ted Kennedy.

Cite all the votes Hillary Clinton made where she was in not voting with the majority of her Democratic colleagues in the Senate.


And this isn't about Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and Barack Obama... It's about politicians saying nice things about their opponents.

"Don't hate the playa, hate the game."

awww

George Bush* invited Ted Kennedy to the White House to watch a private screening of "Thirteen Days", the movie about his brother's handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis. They also worked closely together on "No Child Left Behind."

I shake my head at what passes for criticism/analysis here.

and i'm not even a big clinton fan . but there is just so much stupid i have seen for years and it's the same shit over and over again.

it's like saying reagan was a liberal because he liked and spent time with tip o'neill.

The vast majority of Democrats don't care about these things... They neither have the time nor inclination. Do you know who cares about these things? Disaffected intellectuals and those that fancy themselves as such.

That sounds awfully close to one of Republicanism's oldies but goodies from the 1950's. Have they revived that again?

DemocratSinceBirth
Blue collar scholar & proud member of the proletariat

that's what matters.

people understand public officials will say positive things about those on the other side.

Now you are trying to tell us that Democrats don't care about those things?

being shot.

will best benefit her, rather than the interests of minorities.

What's good for Hillary is not good for the country.

That's for sure.

I may not vote for her in the primaries. but I will vote for her if wins them!

negative attacks only benefit her opponents . And who are her opponents,,,,, the GOP since no more progressive Dem has decided to run. If the Haters spent as much positive energy focusing on getting a more progressive Dem candidate as they do on the HRC attacks,,,, a more progressive might run.

Rumor control has it that the Koch Bro are funneling money thru Papa Paul to hire trolls to pretend to be progressives and attack HRC.......... from what I have seen ,,,I can believe that!

may benefit her eventual primary opponent. I have no problem with this.

if and when she has a primary opponent....... but even there it would be more productive to point out the positive attributes of her opponent and save the negative hate attack for the GOP in the General...

I'm a Demacrat ,anti war and would like a fair America for my grandson .I don't see Hillary Clinton as a good choice for my needs .

DO i hate Hillary ? No but I don't want her for the Democratic candidate ....

would appoint if they win

A better question, if Hillary is the Democratic nominee would you vote for her?

Anyone who will not vote for the Democratic nominee obviously believes there is no difference between repukes and Democrats. Ralph Nader would be proud of you

do you?

Well played, sir/madam.

exactly the problem. When Goldman fucked over the world's economy, they were the ones who benefited. The rest of us may never fully recover. At least not this generation. We've yet to achieve an inflection point in quality of life.

Sid

Says about 10X every minute they're speaking publicly. Oh look - George Bush used the same exact words! Must be a neo-con conspiracy.

Hillary is being careful to unconditionally praise her constituency.

"Charismatic".... When Hil does exactly the same thing, it's treason or something.
Love watching this make people's blood boil though.

100%green. She's vegan, too.

She probably hated Kissinger then. Money and power corrupts and Hillary is corrupted. We need a canidate from outside the 1%. Who isnt best friends with the banksters and wall street criminals. Who doesnt have ties to the Saudis. One who believes in peace not war and believes in a transparent fully open government that works for the people not corporate interest.

a moderate peace maker, I'll update.

to see if this would be prudent.

He made some good remarks about Hillary when standing on stage with five Secretary of States.

would bring out Democrat voters.

Venimus, vidimus, et mortuus est sounds very much like something Henry the K would say.