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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:33 AM Mar 2015

Dominionist Christians say Ted Cruz will win, bring endtime transfer of wealth to righteous.

This video is from a Texas Megachurch and a Iowa anointing of Ted. It needs to be in general discussion, not the religion forum, because it is a perfect example of what may be an overwhelming influence the next two years.

This is a repost from 2013 from the Video forum. Ted Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, is speaking all through the video. There is an anointing ceremony for Ted in which they say God will condemn every tongue that speaks up against him.

I will be thinking of this when he announces tomorrow. And a shiver will run down my spine.

This is truly creepy to me, this whole concept of dominionism. This is part of an article by Bruce Wilson at Talk to Action. Wilson indicated in an earlier article linked below that Ted Cruz "brings to the table his own formidable, even astonishing, elite connections that, in 1999, helped enable candidate George W. Bush's lock on the 2000 election Republican presidential nomination."



Cruz' Father Suggests Ted Cruz "Anointed" to "Bring The Spoils Of War To The Priests"

In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz' father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as "kings" to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the "Seven Mountains" mandate, and "bring the spoils of war to the priests", thus helping to bring about a prophesied "great transfer of wealth", from the "wicked" to righteous gentile believers.

....Discussion of the now-notorious speech by Rafael Cruz has missed the fact that Ted Cruz was subsequently blessed and anointed by prominent dominionist pastors, in effect as a "king" in the political/governmental sphere, at a special blessing ceremony at the Marriott Hotel in Des Moines, Iowa, at a July 19th-20th 2013 rally designed to draw pastors into politics.


From Wilson's earlier article on Cruz:

Ted Cruz Worked With Religious Right Founder Paul Weyrich, To Elect George W. Bush

"We are talking about Christianizing America. We are talking about simply spreading the gospel in a political context." -- U.S. Senator Ted Cruz' late friend Paul Weyrich, in a 1980 Dallas speech to fundamentalist ministers. Weyrich is widely credited as one of the top architects of the new right and the religious right.

.... In other words, per Goeglein's account, Ted Cruz helped create the Bush Presidency. It's astonishing for an almost endless range of reasons, not the least of which is that it doubly true as well - Cruz also served on the Bush campaign's elite legal team that fought the legal battles over the vote recount in Florida which in turn led to the wildly controversial Bush v. Gore Supreme Court ruling that installed George W. Bush in the presidency.

But Cruz' ties to Paul Weyrich are nonetheless even more jaw-dropping than that considering who Weyrich was. How did Cruz earn the friendship of the man who helped create the Heritage Foundation, the Moral Majority, and the American Legislative Exchange Council, ALEC ?


Here is more about Paul Weyrich and his goals toward "liberals".

Right wing leader said they must be willing to be obnoxious.

If you read what Heubeck and Weyrich wrote about their new plans... you see ruthlessness.


Our movement must be highly provocative. The thing we have most to fear is that we will be ignored.

Cultural conservatives must understand the predicament we are in. We must be willing to take measures that perhaps we would be unwilling to take under different, more ideal circumstances. We will have standards--we will never try to justify dishonesty, destruction of the personal reputation of our opponents, cheating, assault, etc., in the service of victory for our movement. However, we will not consider ourselves above appearing "unseemly" or surrendering some our personal dignity. We must be willing to shake people out of their complacency--which means being obnoxious if the situation requires it--because given the fact that the dominant leftist culture is safely ensconced, complacency only serves the interests of our opponents.

It is not enough to say that conservative philosophy is more sensible than that of the Left. If we leave it at that, we will only attract "sensible" people to our movement. But "sensible" people do not go to the barricades, they do not make great sacrifices for a movement. And the experience of the conservative movement has shown this to be the case. We need more people with fire in the belly, and we need a message that attracts those kinds of people. As Plato said, "madness comes from God, whereas sober sense is merely human."


We have now seen their attacks on the left play out in real time. All we have to do is look back at their words years ago. All planned.

We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left. We will attack the very legitimacy of the Left. We will not give them a moment's rest.

We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime. We will take advantage of every available opportunity to spread the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the existing state of affairs. For example, we could have every member of the movement put a bumper sticker on his car that says something to the effect of "Public Education is Rotten; Homeschool Your Kids." This will change nobody's mind immediately; no one will choose to stop sending his children to public schools immediately after seeing such a bumper sticker; but it will raise awareness and consciousness that there is a problem. Most of all, it will contribute to a vague sense of uneasiness and dissatisfaction with existing society. We need this if we hope to start picking people off and bringing them over to our side. We need to break down before we can build up. We must first clear away the flotsam of a decayed culture.


Seeing Ted Cruz in action recently brought back all these words of the founders of this movement for religious people to take over every aspect of the government.

In case you are unfamiliar with the 7 Mountains, here is a link to enlighten.

David Barton Advocates Seven Mountains Dominionism
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Dominionist Christians say Ted Cruz will win, bring endtime transfer of wealth to righteous. (Original Post) madfloridian Mar 2015 OP
See, with the BFEE we just got crazy/evil. With the Cruz Seed we get crazy/evil/fundie. Rex Mar 2015 #1
Definitely! He's smart and dangerous, and a lot of ignorant fools fall for his crap. Meets all the RKP5637 Mar 2015 #52
Proof that Ted Cruz is the AntiChrist! Berbalang Feb 2016 #64
So according to them, them, every Republican standing in Cruz' way is guilty of apostasy, perfidy, villager Mar 2015 #2
Or hope that the halfway sane ones Ilsa Mar 2015 #35
comedy gold olddots Mar 2015 #3
I take them seriously. I never used to do that, but now I do. madfloridian Mar 2015 #4
Frankly, it is a mental condition! These are not emotionally well individuals and they have RKP5637 Mar 2015 #54
These people are seriously batshit crazy. Wow. nt Zorra Mar 2015 #5
And there are lots and lots of them. madfloridian Mar 2015 #9
Their dream is to become the real-life version Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #15
They intend to kill half the people of America off. People better wise up to what's going down. freshwest Mar 2015 #24
cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, SS, SSDI, and food stamps are the first step n/t zazen Mar 2015 #32
Just as Sanders said when Paul Ryan and then Rand Paul demanded cuts. freshwest Mar 2015 #34
Starving people and letting them die from disease is hifiguy Mar 2015 #43
Seven Mountains: Economy, Government, Family, Spirituality, Education, Media & Celebration. madfloridian Mar 2015 #6
Glad someone else is spreading this info. I've been tweeting Cruz's "anointing" since I 1st heard Panich52 Mar 2015 #7
Keep doing that. madfloridian Mar 2015 #8
I'm reminded of an Incubus song. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #10
Reminds me of an Asatru joke... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #11
Heh, won't get to enjoy the "endtime" transfer of wealth. madfloridian Mar 2015 #12
f**king apostates, all they're concerned with *is* wealth, and they announce it boldly. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #13
They do fit the definition I was taught xfundy Mar 2015 #17
It's not difficult to see their plan at work if you just pay attention world wide wally Mar 2015 #14
Religious right or propaganda machine? daredtowork Mar 2015 #16
No difference. xfundy Mar 2015 #18
The fundy loons have been an integral part of the reichwing propaganda machine hifiguy Mar 2015 #44
Here's a lie right here, Trillo Mar 2015 #19
Can they jump into a mass sacrifice pit lovemydog Mar 2015 #20
Fucking barking mad. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #21
He could win, but would bring a wave of brown shirt christianity instead of prosperity. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #22
This doesn't surprise me. The demographics say in another decade these people will no longer liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #23
Oh, I hope you are right. madfloridian Mar 2015 #42
Oh, this is sort of Third Way stuff - djean111 Mar 2015 #25
Tax this "church." Vinca Mar 2015 #26
endtime transfer of wealth to the righteous? who would care? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #27
Remember, not all religious nuts believe the rapture happens BEFORE Jesus returns... brooklynite Mar 2015 #30
Most don't Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #61
He's their wannabe Nehemiah Scudder. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #28
Teddy's "Fatten the rich, starve the poor" policies... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #29
In Other News: Dangerous End Times Cult Members Still Free to Roam the Country NightWatcher Mar 2015 #31
It's ok, DU believers frequently remind us that Christianity =/= Conservative whatthehey Mar 2015 #33
WHen they say liberal hootinholler Mar 2015 #36
End times transfer of wealth? progressoid Mar 2015 #37
From the evil to the righteous. madfloridian Mar 2015 #38
Kick FloriTexan Mar 2015 #39
From official 7 Mountains website: "Beyond Salvation is Occupation" Wow. madfloridian Mar 2015 #40
And it's going to be a Romney landslide! The polls are all skewed! Downtown Hound Mar 2015 #41
Hello IRS???? Where the hell are you? Initech Mar 2015 #45
Very good question. Where IS the IRS? madfloridian Mar 2015 #47
Busy watching Rockwell? KamaAina Mar 2015 #49
KICK.... yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #46
I take them seriously as well, Madfloridian Oilwellian Mar 2015 #48
I had forgotten that video. Just like they were laying hands on Cruz. madfloridian Mar 2015 #57
Yep, different sect of the same cult n/t Oilwellian Mar 2015 #58
So now I'm confused. Vinca Mar 2015 #50
America's version of ISIS! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #51
Cruz wants his son to be the first dictator of the US. We do not need a King Ted. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #53
7 Mountains advocates want to be occupiers.Link madfloridian Mar 2015 #55
Satan's Bedfellows are getting played again by the Heritage Foundation. Octafish Mar 2015 #56
I often wonder just how many really fall for this, or just passively go along? madfloridian Mar 2015 #59
Between the drugs and the apathy endemic to the well-fed, all they need is a small cadre. Octafish Mar 2015 #62
Shouldn't Joel Osteen be their new golden idol then? TheGunslinger Mar 2015 #60
Ted Cruz thinks he is destined by God for greatness. madfloridian Mar 2015 #63
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. See, with the BFEE we just got crazy/evil. With the Cruz Seed we get crazy/evil/fundie.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:38 AM
Mar 2015

It's the trifecta for the anti-christ to return! Indeed all wealth will go to the most greedy plutocratic piggies in Satan's army. Ted Cruz, the anti-christ reborn, will help scorch the earth and rend all life from it. In his master's name.

There I said it, new meme...Ted Cruz is the anti-christ.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
52. Definitely! He's smart and dangerous, and a lot of ignorant fools fall for his crap. Meets all the
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:40 PM
Mar 2015

requirements to be the Anti-Christ IMO!

 

Berbalang

(3 posts)
64. Proof that Ted Cruz is the AntiChrist!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

In regards to Ted Cruz possibly being the Anti-Christ I cannot help noticing that:

A=18=6+6+6
B=24=6+6+6+6
C=30=6+6+6+6+6
D=36=6+6+6+6+6+6
(Continue pattern through the alphabet.)

T=132
E= 42
D= 36
C= 30
R=120
U=138
Z=168
——–
666

I freely give permission to use and spread this proof.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. So according to them, them, every Republican standing in Cruz' way is guilty of apostasy, perfidy,
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:40 AM
Mar 2015

sin, wickedness, et al?

Can we hope these fanatics thereby bring about the death knell of the GOP?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
35. Or hope that the halfway sane ones
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:38 AM
Mar 2015

Expose the Dominionists for the violent hucksters and bullies they are.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. I take them seriously. I never used to do that, but now I do.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:44 AM
Mar 2015

This new right wing bunch can not be moved from their beliefs in any way. Logic doesn't matter, nor does truth.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
54. Frankly, it is a mental condition! These are not emotionally well individuals and they have
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:44 PM
Mar 2015

banded together. I often think many Americans are unaware of how creepy and dangerous they are. I place them on a par with ISIS, but here in the US they are under better control. Give them free reign and they would make ISIS look like child's play.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
15. Their dream is to become the real-life version
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:14 AM
Mar 2015

of Monty Python's Silly Party. Monty Python predicted Ted Cruz 40 years ago.

?w=250

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
34. Just as Sanders said when Paul Ryan and then Rand Paul demanded cuts.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:30 AM
Mar 2015
He said those cuts would literally kill people, and they knew full well it would.


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
43. Starving people and letting them die from disease is
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:50 PM
Mar 2015

far more cost-effective than building extermination camps. to achieve the same goal And the resulting genocide can be blamed on the ever-omniscient hand of the "free market." This has been well thought-through.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
7. Glad someone else is spreading this info. I've been tweeting Cruz's "anointing" since I 1st heard
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:54 AM
Mar 2015

about it late 2012.

There are a lot of theocrats In elected office, but Dominionists are the most determined to make this country a true theocracy.

Ran across an 'agenda' on DU earlier this eve.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026401444

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
8. Keep doing that.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:58 AM
Mar 2015

I do keep posting about it because it is so unbelievable to see it happening in America. This kind of stuff is why my late hubby and I took our names off the roll of our Southern Baptist Church. They were preaching about holy war and other weird stuff.

They are a powerful group. I know of two megachurches in our area, thousands of members...and Rafael Cruz would be welcomed with open arms.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
10. I'm reminded of an Incubus song.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:09 AM
Mar 2015

Hey megalomaniac
You're no Jesus
Yeah, you're no fucking Elvis
Wash your hands clean of yourself baby
Maniac, step down, step down

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. Reminds me of an Asatru joke...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:36 AM
Mar 2015


I don't think these guys will enjoy what happens if they get their wish. Just saying.
 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
13. f**king apostates, all they're concerned with *is* wealth, and they announce it boldly.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:48 AM
Mar 2015

they're "the beast," they're "the antichrist." and they advertise it every time they open their hateful, intolerant, avaricious mouths.

may god smite them.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
17. They do fit the definition I was taught
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:38 AM
Mar 2015

as a young Southern Batshit. But they've uprooted all that came before and call evil good, and good evil. I seem to recall something about that as well.

world wide wally

(21,749 posts)
14. It's not difficult to see their plan at work if you just pay attention
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:09 AM
Mar 2015

The assault on anything liberal is relentless and now they've pretty much bought the media to pound it home and altogether too many Americans are eating this shit up.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
19. Here's a lie right here,
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:55 AM
Mar 2015
the fact that the dominant leftist culture is safely ensconced


First they tell you they'll never lie, then they tell you a whopper.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
21. Fucking barking mad.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:03 AM
Mar 2015

A warmer kinder homegrown Isil, more than happy to kill their way into the end of the world.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
23. This doesn't surprise me. The demographics say in another decade these people will no longer
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:32 AM
Mar 2015

hold power. They are desperate and dangerous. They will try to hold onto power as long as they can and by any means necessary. Could mean some bad times ahead temporarily, but long term these people will lose power and they know it.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
25. Oh, this is sort of Third Way stuff -
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:53 AM
Mar 2015
We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left. We will attack the very legitimacy of the Left. We will not give them a moment's rest.


Some right here at DU are doing this and saving them the trouble.

I think that Cruz seems a bit unprepared - website tedcruz.com, for instance - because once one has been anointed, things are probably supposed to just fall into place.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. endtime transfer of wealth to the righteous? who would care?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:00 AM
Mar 2015

If it's the endtime, A) you can't take it with you, and B) it's easier for a camel to get through a needle's eyehole than a rich man into Heaven.

So suddenly becoming wealthy at Rapture time really isn't a good strategy for those hoping to end up in Heaven.

Dominionists are a nasty lot.

Which reminds me, again, about how Hillary sucked up to David Coe, the Dominionist political kingmaker, calling him a 'mentor' and attending 'Family' prayer meetings. Never heard her explain that yet.

brooklynite

(94,665 posts)
30. Remember, not all religious nuts believe the rapture happens BEFORE Jesus returns...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:32 AM
Mar 2015

...plenty of time to spend the money.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
29. Teddy's "Fatten the rich, starve the poor" policies...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:07 AM
Mar 2015

are the opposite of what Jesus preached in his ministry. Regardless of what the "prosperity gospel" types yammer, Jesus never said that Christian faith or piety would result in material wealth.

I don't believe there are enough nuts in this country to elect this carnival barker to the White House. Now the Republican nomination - he might be crazy enough to cinch that.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
31. In Other News: Dangerous End Times Cult Members Still Free to Roam the Country
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:34 AM
Mar 2015

posing a danger to themselves, their children, and those around them.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
33. It's ok, DU believers frequently remind us that Christianity =/= Conservative
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:20 AM
Mar 2015

So doubtless there are as many millions who will fervently commit to electing Democrats in such a proud and public declaration of political liberalism tied to faith, and pour equal amounts of cash and organization and PR into the race on our side. You know like they did in...ermmmm..errrrr....

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
36. WHen they say liberal
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:53 AM
Mar 2015

They really mean the center and all who are to the left of that including HRC and the corporatti she seems to hang out with.

When we say liberal, we really mean liberal.

Initech

(100,090 posts)
45. Hello IRS???? Where the hell are you?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:54 PM
Mar 2015

If churches want to preach politics, they need to start paying their fucking share of taxes! Any church that invites Ted Cruz should pay through the nose.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
48. I take them seriously as well, Madfloridian
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

Look at how close the anointed Sarah Palin was to the presidency.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
50. So now I'm confused.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:31 PM
Mar 2015

If it's the end time, what do you need with wealth whether it's transferred or not? Your sorry behind will be out of here and the heathens left behind will be looting your house. I'm looking for anything in Tiffany blue boxes.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
55. 7 Mountains advocates want to be occupiers.Link
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:15 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.thesevenmountains.com/

Deuteronomy 1:8 All of this is the land which I, the LORD, promised to give to your ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and to their descendants. Go and occupy it.

BEYOND SALVATION IS OCCUPATION


Octafish

(55,745 posts)
56. Satan's Bedfellows are getting played again by the Heritage Foundation.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:22 PM
Mar 2015

Sounds nice to the Fundie & Teabagger mindsets, but he'll still rip them off Carlyle Group style.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
62. Between the drugs and the apathy endemic to the well-fed, all they need is a small cadre.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:10 PM
Mar 2015

Decades ago I remember a survey of high schoolers asking them to list all the names of presidents they could remember and then to list all the names of beer they could remember. There was no contest, beer won big time.

Imagine what we could do, as a nation and as a planet, were we to harness the power of human imagination? Flying cars would be the least of it.

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