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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDominionist Christians say Ted Cruz will win, bring endtime transfer of wealth to righteous.
This video is from a Texas Megachurch and a Iowa anointing of Ted. It needs to be in general discussion, not the religion forum, because it is a perfect example of what may be an overwhelming influence the next two years.
This is a repost from 2013 from the Video forum. Ted Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, is speaking all through the video. There is an anointing ceremony for Ted in which they say God will condemn every tongue that speaks up against him.
I will be thinking of this when he announces tomorrow. And a shiver will run down my spine.
This is truly creepy to me, this whole concept of dominionism. This is part of an article by Bruce Wilson at Talk to Action. Wilson indicated in an earlier article linked below that Ted Cruz "brings to the table his own formidable, even astonishing, elite connections that, in 1999, helped enable candidate George W. Bush's lock on the 2000 election Republican presidential nomination."
Cruz' Father Suggests Ted Cruz "Anointed" to "Bring The Spoils Of War To The Priests"
In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz' father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as "kings" to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the "Seven Mountains" mandate, and "bring the spoils of war to the priests", thus helping to bring about a prophesied "great transfer of wealth", from the "wicked" to righteous gentile believers.
....Discussion of the now-notorious speech by Rafael Cruz has missed the fact that Ted Cruz was subsequently blessed and anointed by prominent dominionist pastors, in effect as a "king" in the political/governmental sphere, at a special blessing ceremony at the Marriott Hotel in Des Moines, Iowa, at a July 19th-20th 2013 rally designed to draw pastors into politics.
From Wilson's earlier article on Cruz:
Ted Cruz Worked With Religious Right Founder Paul Weyrich, To Elect George W. Bush
"We are talking about Christianizing America. We are talking about simply spreading the gospel in a political context." -- U.S. Senator Ted Cruz' late friend Paul Weyrich, in a 1980 Dallas speech to fundamentalist ministers. Weyrich is widely credited as one of the top architects of the new right and the religious right.
.... In other words, per Goeglein's account, Ted Cruz helped create the Bush Presidency. It's astonishing for an almost endless range of reasons, not the least of which is that it doubly true as well - Cruz also served on the Bush campaign's elite legal team that fought the legal battles over the vote recount in Florida which in turn led to the wildly controversial Bush v. Gore Supreme Court ruling that installed George W. Bush in the presidency.
But Cruz' ties to Paul Weyrich are nonetheless even more jaw-dropping than that considering who Weyrich was. How did Cruz earn the friendship of the man who helped create the Heritage Foundation, the Moral Majority, and the American Legislative Exchange Council, ALEC ?
Here is more about Paul Weyrich and his goals toward "liberals".
Right wing leader said they must be willing to be obnoxious.
If you read what Heubeck and Weyrich wrote about their new plans... you see ruthlessness.
Our movement must be highly provocative. The thing we have most to fear is that we will be ignored.
Cultural conservatives must understand the predicament we are in. We must be willing to take measures that perhaps we would be unwilling to take under different, more ideal circumstances. We will have standards--we will never try to justify dishonesty, destruction of the personal reputation of our opponents, cheating, assault, etc., in the service of victory for our movement. However, we will not consider ourselves above appearing "unseemly" or surrendering some our personal dignity. We must be willing to shake people out of their complacency--which means being obnoxious if the situation requires it--because given the fact that the dominant leftist culture is safely ensconced, complacency only serves the interests of our opponents.
It is not enough to say that conservative philosophy is more sensible than that of the Left. If we leave it at that, we will only attract "sensible" people to our movement. But "sensible" people do not go to the barricades, they do not make great sacrifices for a movement. And the experience of the conservative movement has shown this to be the case. We need more people with fire in the belly, and we need a message that attracts those kinds of people. As Plato said, "madness comes from God, whereas sober sense is merely human."
We have now seen their attacks on the left play out in real time. All we have to do is look back at their words years ago. All planned.
We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left. We will attack the very legitimacy of the Left. We will not give them a moment's rest.
We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime. We will take advantage of every available opportunity to spread the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the existing state of affairs. For example, we could have every member of the movement put a bumper sticker on his car that says something to the effect of "Public Education is Rotten; Homeschool Your Kids." This will change nobody's mind immediately; no one will choose to stop sending his children to public schools immediately after seeing such a bumper sticker; but it will raise awareness and consciousness that there is a problem. Most of all, it will contribute to a vague sense of uneasiness and dissatisfaction with existing society. We need this if we hope to start picking people off and bringing them over to our side. We need to break down before we can build up. We must first clear away the flotsam of a decayed culture.
Seeing Ted Cruz in action recently brought back all these words of the founders of this movement for religious people to take over every aspect of the government.
In case you are unfamiliar with the 7 Mountains, here is a link to enlighten.
David Barton Advocates Seven Mountains Dominionism
Rex
(65,616 posts)It's the trifecta for the anti-christ to return! Indeed all wealth will go to the most greedy plutocratic piggies in Satan's army. Ted Cruz, the anti-christ reborn, will help scorch the earth and rend all life from it. In his master's name.
There I said it, new meme...Ted Cruz is the anti-christ.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)requirements to be the Anti-Christ IMO!
Berbalang
(3 posts)In regards to Ted Cruz possibly being the Anti-Christ I cannot help noticing that:
A=18=6+6+6
B=24=6+6+6+6
C=30=6+6+6+6+6
D=36=6+6+6+6+6+6
(Continue pattern through the alphabet.)
T=132
E= 42
D= 36
C= 30
R=120
U=138
Z=168
666
I freely give permission to use and spread this proof.
villager
(26,001 posts)sin, wickedness, et al?
Can we hope these fanatics thereby bring about the death knell of the GOP?
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Expose the Dominionists for the violent hucksters and bullies they are.
olddots
(10,237 posts)IF i didn't hate these turd maggots so much I would enjoy their humor .
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)This new right wing bunch can not be moved from their beliefs in any way. Logic doesn't matter, nor does truth.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)banded together. I often think many Americans are unaware of how creepy and dangerous they are. I place them on a par with ISIS, but here in the US they are under better control. Give them free reign and they would make ISIS look like child's play.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)of Monty Python's Silly Party. Monty Python predicted Ted Cruz 40 years ago.
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)far more cost-effective than building extermination camps. to achieve the same goal And the resulting genocide can be blamed on the ever-omniscient hand of the "free market." This has been well thought-through.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Panich52
(5,829 posts)about it late 2012.
There are a lot of theocrats In elected office, but Dominionists are the most determined to make this country a true theocracy.
Ran across an 'agenda' on DU earlier this eve.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026401444
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I do keep posting about it because it is so unbelievable to see it happening in America. This kind of stuff is why my late hubby and I took our names off the roll of our Southern Baptist Church. They were preaching about holy war and other weird stuff.
They are a powerful group. I know of two megachurches in our area, thousands of members...and Rafael Cruz would be welcomed with open arms.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Hey megalomaniac
You're no Jesus
Yeah, you're no fucking Elvis
Wash your hands clean of yourself baby
Maniac, step down, step down
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I don't think these guys will enjoy what happens if they get their wish. Just saying.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)they're "the beast," they're "the antichrist." and they advertise it every time they open their hateful, intolerant, avaricious mouths.
may god smite them.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)as a young Southern Batshit. But they've uprooted all that came before and call evil good, and good evil. I seem to recall something about that as well.
world wide wally
(21,749 posts)The assault on anything liberal is relentless and now they've pretty much bought the media to pound it home and altogether too many Americans are eating this shit up.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)So hard to tell the difference anymore...
xfundy
(5,105 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)since the 1970s.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)First they tell you they'll never lie, then they tell you a whopper.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)and put it on tv?
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)A warmer kinder homegrown Isil, more than happy to kill their way into the end of the world.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)hold power. They are desperate and dangerous. They will try to hold onto power as long as they can and by any means necessary. Could mean some bad times ahead temporarily, but long term these people will lose power and they know it.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left. We will attack the very legitimacy of the Left. We will not give them a moment's rest.
Some right here at DU are doing this and saving them the trouble.
I think that Cruz seems a bit unprepared - website tedcruz.com, for instance - because once one has been anointed, things are probably supposed to just fall into place.
Vinca
(50,299 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)If it's the endtime, A) you can't take it with you, and B) it's easier for a camel to get through a needle's eyehole than a rich man into Heaven.
So suddenly becoming wealthy at Rapture time really isn't a good strategy for those hoping to end up in Heaven.
Dominionists are a nasty lot.
Which reminds me, again, about how Hillary sucked up to David Coe, the Dominionist political kingmaker, calling him a 'mentor' and attending 'Family' prayer meetings. Never heard her explain that yet.
brooklynite
(94,665 posts)...plenty of time to spend the money.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,103 posts)In fact the rapture wasn't part of Christian theology till John Nelson Darby invented it in 1830.
http://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)are the opposite of what Jesus preached in his ministry. Regardless of what the "prosperity gospel" types yammer, Jesus never said that Christian faith or piety would result in material wealth.
I don't believe there are enough nuts in this country to elect this carnival barker to the White House. Now the Republican nomination - he might be crazy enough to cinch that.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)posing a danger to themselves, their children, and those around them.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)So doubtless there are as many millions who will fervently commit to electing Democrats in such a proud and public declaration of political liberalism tied to faith, and pour equal amounts of cash and organization and PR into the race on our side. You know like they did in...ermmmm..errrrr....
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)They really mean the center and all who are to the left of that including HRC and the corporatti she seems to hang out with.
When we say liberal, we really mean liberal.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)WTF???
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Not sure just who gets to decide who fits each category.
FloriTexan
(838 posts)He makes me think of the antichrist.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Y'all remember that one?
Initech
(100,090 posts)If churches want to preach politics, they need to start paying their fucking share of taxes! Any church that invites Ted Cruz should pay through the nose.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,833 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Look at how close the anointed Sarah Palin was to the presidency.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Vinca
(50,299 posts)If it's the end time, what do you need with wealth whether it's transferred or not? Your sorry behind will be out of here and the heathens left behind will be looting your house. I'm looking for anything in Tiffany blue boxes.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Deuteronomy 1:8 All of this is the land which I, the LORD, promised to give to your ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and to their descendants. Go and occupy it.
BEYOND SALVATION IS OCCUPATION
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Sounds nice to the Fundie & Teabagger mindsets, but he'll still rip them off Carlyle Group style.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Decades ago I remember a survey of high schoolers asking them to list all the names of presidents they could remember and then to list all the names of beer they could remember. There was no contest, beer won big time.
Imagine what we could do, as a nation and as a planet, were we to harness the power of human imagination? Flying cars would be the least of it.