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cui bono

(19,926 posts) Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:18 AM Mar 2015

There is something called a Democratic primary.

Just reminding those who seem to have forgotten that it exists.

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There is something called a Democratic primary. (Original Post) cui bono Mar 2015 OP

Exactly Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #1

Better people don't win. Reagan won. nt NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #2

I was going to use Russ Feingold as an example, but both that election and the one you mentioned cui bono Mar 2015 #6

Not allowed to compete? Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #7

Debate rules are set by TPTB. cui bono Mar 2015 #8

Reagan was a Republican who never ran in a Democratic Primary. He won a Republican Primary. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #12

The best candidate doesn't usually win imo. cui bono Mar 2015 #3

are you kidding? beachbum bob Mar 2015 #10

pretty sad how many people would like to just skip the primary and force people to vote liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #4

Yeah, and then decide that those who won't vote for a particular person are not Democrats. cui bono Mar 2015 #5

Gotta have candidateS to have a primary HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #9

Together we can assure Hillary sails through with ease. ileus Mar 2015 #11

Ew... cui bono Mar 2015 #15

In Iowa, it's a caucus. Just think of DU's discussions as one long caucus. progressoid Mar 2015 #13

of course they could always "Bill Halter" us: in '10 the party's ever-so-refined peak MisterP Mar 2015 #14

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

1. Exactly

Reply to cui bono (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:27 AM

Mar 2015

If people like Warren, Sanders, and O'Malley are better candidates than Clinton, they will win the primaries.

It's simple.

Easy peasy.

The person with the most delegates will be the best candidate.

I trust the Democratic primary voters.

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

2. Better people don't win. Reagan won. nt

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:30 AM

Mar 2015

cui bono

(19,926 posts)

6. I was going to use Russ Feingold as an example, but both that election and the one you mentioned

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:07 AM

Mar 2015

are general elections, not primaries.

However, as I mentioned in another post, very often the best candidate isn't even allowed to compete. And most certainly doesn't often win.

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

7. Not allowed to compete?

Reply to cui bono (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:28 AM

Mar 2015

If Feingold, Kucinich, Warren or Sanders said they want to run for Prez, I'm sure they would be allowed to participate in the debates and the primaries.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)

8. Debate rules are set by TPTB.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:11 AM

Mar 2015

When Nader was running they changed the polling percentage to be higher to keep him out of the debates. So yes, he was not allowed to compete. They didn't want his message heard. They don't want any of the names you mentioned to be heard either.

Why do you think Kucinich got asked about UFOs in the debates? Did they think that was a normal debate question? did they ask it of others? No, they were trying to discredit him.

Why do you think such a big deal was made of Dean's yell? They were trying to, and did, discredit him.

Surely you don't think political races are fair and just.

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

12. Reagan was a Republican who never ran in a Democratic Primary. He won a Republican Primary.

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:07 AM

Mar 2015

I suppose it is to be expected that some Warren boosters might be a tad confused over which Party is which. Reagan was a Republican.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)

3. The best candidate doesn't usually win imo.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:32 AM

Mar 2015

The candidate TPTB want is the most likely to win. That's why they have money in elections, so they can get their candidate front and center. The best candidates are often not even allowed in the debates.

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

10. are you kidding?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:48 AM

Mar 2015

really....same mentality that nader supporters had and look what they caused the country to suffer thru with 8 years of bush.....

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)

4. pretty sad how many people would like to just skip the primary and force people to vote

Reply to cui bono (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:34 AM

Mar 2015

for who they want them to vote for. Voting is the most fundamental form of freedom we have. You cannot force anyone to vote for anybody. In fact, you can't force them vote at all although some here would like to be able to do that.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)

5. Yeah, and then decide that those who won't vote for a particular person are not Democrats.

Reply to liberal_at_heart (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:05 AM

Mar 2015

I say you are not a Democrat if you don't respect the election process. That process includes a primary. If one chooses to skip the primary and simply hand the candidacy over to a corporate centrist then I say that person is the one who is not a Democrat. They certainly don't believe in democracy.

They should go to the prospective candidate that so many don't want and tell that prospective candidate that they are not a Democrat and that a whole lot of real Democrats don't want to vote for her because of that very reason.