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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo are birthers OK with Cruz running for president?
Are they aware of how hypocritical they are? Can he even become president?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)But I also know Latino people are racialized in the US regardless.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Yes, he can become president.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)So if they point is that he can be president if he has an American mother, than they should have recognized that about Obama as well, no matter where they incorrectly thought he was born.
malaise
(269,113 posts)and never forget that Obama is a born American as well, but...but...but - Obama is black so excuse the double standards everywhere.
G_j
(40,367 posts)Cruz was not.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)And Obama was actually born IN the U.S.
djean111
(14,255 posts)steps of the White House, to American citizen parents, recorded on YouTube, attended by SCOTUS, they would have declared that DC was not a state or something.
Birthers were likely funded by folks like the Kochs as a distraction and a carnival act.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Logic was never their strong point.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)that I know that you know.
Too much bourbon. Or maybe not enough..
djean111
(14,255 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Take your pick.
djean111
(14,255 posts)First time I drank bourbon - Christmas present, Jim Beam, early HBO days, it just started to actually be on all night. Midnight, clicked on The Last Waltz, I was transfixed, drank and watched until it was over, half the bottle gone, few hours sleep, woke up and went to work, fresh as a daisy. Lessons learned - no hangover from bourbon, and one can never have too much Robbie Robertson. Cheers! And thanks for reminding me!
malaise
(269,113 posts)but does Hawaii count when you're African-American??
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Morning, Malaise!
malaise
(269,113 posts)Have a great day
clydefrand
(4,325 posts)file the proper form(s) to the American embassy in the Canadian city in which he was born?
If NOT, then HE IS NOT ELIGBLE TO BE PRESIDENT!! He has to have the proper document(s)
to prove this did occur.
onenote
(42,726 posts)Filing the prescribed form is necessary to get a certificate that serves as proof of citizenship but is not required to create citizenship, which occurs at birth under the relevant statute. Filing the form is a prerequisite to getting a passport for a child born outside the U.S. to am American mother but if the form wasn't filed prior to the child's 18th birthday there are alternate ways to prove citizenship for various purposes. Eligibility for the presidency isn't contingent on any form. It's contingent on certain facts which is why the whole long form v short form birth certificate debate was utter nonsense.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)State Dept. outposts in cities like Calgary are consulates.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)and he was born in Panama.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)People born overseas to US servicemen and women are considered naturally born US citizens as much as if they were born in the US.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)Then it would have been an issue with them.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)and they'd still claim to be supporters of the military.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Any child of a US citizen born anywhere on the planet is a US citizen.
Born while not on the planet has yet to be tested, but shouldn't be a barrier.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)"Arnold Schwarzenegger" law? As in to waive the born a US citizen requirement to be POTUS?
CanonRay
(14,111 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Ahh the infighting will take a toll..
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)He is eligible for US citizenship, but it's not clear he went through the correct procedure to become a US citizen. His parents would have had to file some paperwork, and it's not clear they did that.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Doesn't matter where in the world he was born, he is the child of a US citizen, so he's a citizen.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)...but he somehow got a US passport, and that's what he shows people to prove he's a citizen. When he got his US passport, he chose to be a US citizen, rather than a Canadian. When his parents applied for his passport, they should have filed a "report of child born to US citizen abroad." I'm not sure that's the exact title. You have to have this to get a passport if you're in Cruz's situation. Since his birth certificate is from Canada, the passport people would insist on his mom providing the required paperwork. I'm curious as to how he got a US passport.